Come anticipate "King Arthur" with me

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I second that recommendation. Give it a view and let us know what you thought. You seem to know enough about this kinda thing that your insights into what made it onscreen would be interesting.

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"band of misfits that FIGHT"

yeah, but this has been a trope of "fighting men"(i.e. military) movies for like half-a-century or more.

Also, it's used again in The Three Amigos

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

But the Arthurian Myth is one of the *oldest* "gang of misfits that FITE!!!" stories in the world! It's about a thousand years old!

One of the things that annoyed me was the way that a lot of the minor Knights were written out of the story completely when they had just as interesting (if not more interesting) adventures in the myth cycle.

Possibly because the original hero was clearly Arthur - but as he got too... holy/father figure/too important to go out and chase monsters, he was supplanted by his hero/champion Lancelot for the fighting bits.

And then every knight who came along was somehow... not better, but somehow purer or nobler or something. (Gawain, followed by Gaheris and Agravaine and Gareth.) Until you had Parsifal/Galahad, who was so pure and noble he was no longer a human being but a living personification of the Grail myth.

Hello Cthulhu (kate), Monday, 20 March 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but the whole French-courtly-Morte D'Arthur take on things drives me crazy for all those freasons -- the ratchet effect of heroes! Annoying! Far prefer the unwashed proto-Celtic Band of Misfits interpretations, in general.

Think my favorite at the time was the Stephen Donaldson Pendragon Cycle, although I suspect if I re-read now I'd be a little miffed at the religious push. Now I think maybe the Guy Gavriel Kay interweaving is for me, although it really only uses the legendary elements to hang/turn the plot on, rather than following the whole story. I think I prefer that creative license to any other approach.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

the Stephen Donaldson Pendragon Cycle

Lawhead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoops! Thanks, Ned.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha no Laurel what you need is Camlot 3000

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The most original treatment in the story is given to Sir Tristan who is reincarnated as a woman. He must struggle with his ideas about sex roles, and also with his own sexuality. Eventually Tristan's eternal love for Isolde wins out and the two become lovers.

Laugh? Cry? Pretty much a toss-up.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

no no the bit almost at the very end where some 3000 A.D. equivalent of a roadworker sees the two of them together and makes some "what a waste" comment.

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"Camelot 3000" IS AWESOME

Dan (Oh Yes) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

It is also GROSS

TOMBOT, Monday, 20 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

this is the first i'm hearing about this, sounds like the worst idea on the planet tbh

http://www.avclub.com/article/warner-bros-may-bequeath-guy-ritchie-six-king-arth-107315

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fox-updating-king-arthur-as-924730

The drama, which landed at Fox in a competitive situation with a script plus penalty commitment, reimagines the legendary stories of King Arthur in a police procedural. When an ancient magic reawakens in modern-day Manhattan, a graffiti artist named Art must team with his best friend Lance and his ex, Gwen — an idealistic cop — in order to realize his destiny and fight back against the evil forces that threaten the city.

nomar, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

so this Guy Ritchie film is DOA at the box office.

I saw James Gray last month at a Q&A, and he said he asked Charlie Hunnam if he was happy with Gray's direction of him during the Lost City of Z shoot. Hunnam replied, "My last movie was King Arthur, and after every take the director just said, 'Again, but less cunty.'"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

I saw a preview a couple of weeks ago (hasten to add i did not pay money to see this) and yes it is entirely terrible, I was delighted

Ritchie fans will be relieved to learn that his trademark "diablo cody gets fall-down drunk & takes a first pass at a sequel to the sweeney remake" dialogue is intact and witty as ever, the lead is so bad that I genuinely thought it was harking back to the Conan days of esl actors learning to speak on the job (but apparently he's a geordie?) and - yes - so much slo-mo

This weekend I saw Z and was amazed to see this hunnam guy turn in a dece performance

in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

turns out faith is the peakiest blinder of all

in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

would there even be space for a *good* king arthur blockbuster movie? seems so anachronistic. like do people in china or teenagers give a shit about camelot?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot...

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

This King Arthur is a wideboy from the streets tho

Also I think the thinking was that ppl like dumbshit bullet time dragon movies, they just hitched it to a character they don't have to pay for - on that score this will prob be better than that dark tower movie, Ritchie is a worse writer than Akiva Goldman but also more distinctively bad

in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

every 10 years or so someone makes a king arthur movie and it's always shit, glad to see the pattern remains unbroken

the sword in the stone is the only good one

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

Boorman and Bresson did ace King Arthur movies.

I think GR is practically from landed gentry, so the cockney barrow boy act is a very good look for a 50 yr old posh bloke.

calzino, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

Uh I'll have you know that he was expelled from boarding school for being a bad boy which makes him an honorary commoner in anyone's book

(iirc he always claimed in interviews that it was due to smoking spliff but his stepfather revealed it was just poor attendance lol)

in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

yeah Excalibur and Lancelot du Lac are both totally excellent.

i think the problem w/King Arthur movies is that Arthur as a character has never been particularly compelling imo. i don't know why that is, bc it's all there. in most adaptations i've seen he's a cipher to an extent, or a bore. The knights get all the good lines and scenes.

nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Monty python & the holy grail is a good film imho

in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

xp
and yeah monty python's entry is a classic.

I heard GR was such a rebel he never even won a Duke of Edinburgh's Award in the scouts.

calzino, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link


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