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when all i wanna do is enjoy a few drinks after a long week without breaking the bank.

-- Surmounter (rra12...) (webmail), January 20th, 2007. (rra123)

just want to make sure the utter absurdity of this statement isn't lost. a few drinks after one week would call for a tip of around 3 bucks as minimally appropriate. that's all the dude would have to spend. 3 bucks a week. and he's complaining that this 3 bucks will "break the bank." seriously, man, examine what's going on with your life that lead to these circumstances. if 3 dollars is too much for you to afford, and you're still spending your money in bars, you need a therapist.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

i don't know why the world hates americans

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 20 January 2007 18:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

They don't even have healthcare! I'm from a rich western country, so I make sure to tip when I'm there [/ducks]

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Isn't a dollar like 50p? I think my "Brit" ass can afford that.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm an ex-waitress and a lavish tipper. It's only a little bit of money for the customer, but if they all do it, it adds up to an okay living for the waiter. Which they deserve—I've worked a lot of jobs and restaurant work was the highest-stress of all. Even if the customers are nice, the hustle is unbelievable.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

There is some crazy plan here in Ireland to reduce the wages of bar staff in the expectation that they will make it all back in tips, like in America. But this is not America, and people in pubs do not tip.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

$5 a beer doesn't make it any cheaper in the US than in the UK
and a pint's a pint
but presumably cutty's complaint is based on spirits not being poured liberally by hand (tho they are in my local bar :D in fact why i'm not there right now i have no idea)

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh, the spirits thing is some crazy bullshit. The Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.

jimn (jimnaseum), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

i guess it's really the price of the drinks. bars are so dumb sometimes - it's like dim lighting, overpriced drinks and people trying to be sexy

i think the tipping, for me, is the straw that breaks the camel's back

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

i like the tab actually. a lot.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

or rather the idea of the tab - i'm not in the practice of running them. maybe i'll become one of those people that opens tabs a lot. i have a friend like that. she's always handing bartenders her card.

Surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

he Spanish are good with spirits, you get four or five times the amount you get in the UK for the same price.
I paid £7 for a gin and tonic in Stockholm last week, which had 10ml of gin in (compared to 35ml here).

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

the spanish are quite generous

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 20 January 2007 19:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Spanish serve drinks "Ewing" style, as I learnt to my cost! Anyway because I am an utter OLD MAN I kept drinking a lovely brown beer - of course I've completely forgotten the name.

Sorry! I'm a Brit, oi don't belong 'ere m'lud. (I went to Yo Sushi today and didn't tip)

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

it's like jesus, i have to pay 5 dollars for a 99 cent beer and then a dollar on top of it to kiss the bartender's ass who's trying too hard to be cool serving me my drink.

that's why i don't drink beer in bars (the price of the beer, not the dollar tip). i know it's silly because it's about the location and not the beer itself, but i'd rather at least order a drink with more ingredients than i have in the fridge at home.

Maria (Maria), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

You drinkers on a budget—why are you out at a bar to begin with? If you're that broke you should buy your beer by the case and take it home to your miserable basement apartment.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

hahaha! budgets aren't miserable, they're real.

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay, then buy a case and go home. Don't take up a barstool, pay inflated prices and then stiff the bartender!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

i never stiff. i just complain about not stiffing!

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well okay then. I'll spare your life.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

You didn't stiff the bartender in the original post?

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

hahaha

i also hardly ever sit at the bar, which maybe i should try. get to know the bartenders a bit more. get a bit o' empathy goin on.

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

for fuck's sake! if you're so broke that $3 in tips (for 3 drinks purchased over the course of a night) breaks the bank, then as has been said you shouldn't be going out drinking. bars are businesses. drinking cheaply in one isn't your god-given right.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

i tipped her 2 on my next drink

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

god has never given me anything, darlin and it is my right to complain about what i want to!! thanks for the info tho

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

wait a minute, this is wagemann, innit. the "darlin" gives it away

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

darlin isn't specific to wagemann, it seems, cuz wagemann i am not.

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

re: tipping in australia, by a yank

drinks are pretty expensive and staff is reportedly better-paid upfront than in the usa. so no tipping, i was told. but: some places (mainly restaurants, it seems) add a 10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous).

also, service wasn't particularly great, which may or may not have something to do with the lack of tipping. yet aussie bartenders/servers are all over clearing away yr empties--it's more a struggle to get more. weird.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous)

Based on a few months in Australia, I got the impression that they take their weekends rather more (i.e. less) seriously than in the UK or US. Some things even -- gasp! -- shut. The surcharge is related to the fact that restaurant probably pays its staff time-and-a-half or double time over the weekend.

Also, re: this thread and the many, many others. Why do people find tipping so confusing and infuriating? Americans and Brits drive on different sides of the road, and no one gets confused or infuriated by that. And NO ONE feels the need to defend their country's choice. It's merely a convention. Things be different in different parts of the world. Find out how tipping works, fit in (or don't), and forget about it.

caek (caek), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

YEAH!

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

no but honestly. drinks cost what like half the bottle would cost, and i'm supposed to give them MORE?

Buy a whole bottle, mix, serve, and drink it in your home. Or in the park or on the train, perhaps. Either way, then you won't have to put out the extra money for overhead like the edifice, cost of operations, and service.

it's not my job to subsidize theirs.

Yes, it is. Or more accurately, it is your obligation under this country's tipping system. Otherwise you are guilty of the offense of theft of services AND the more serious crime of aggrivated douchebaggery.

In other words (polyphonic's):

If you don't like tipping, don't drink in bars. Period.

a puppy holding a miller high life bottle (unclejessjess), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

can i lock this yet?

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

please

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Please do.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

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surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

REVOLUTION!

If only there could be a similar revolution against tipping.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

and a pint's a pint

US pints are smaller.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

but we were talking about stingy measures in the UK.

i think we should discuss every subject under the sun on this thread.

vita susicivus (blueski), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

"it's not just a city in China"

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

boy, i wish the image spam feature was turned off.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

S- (sgh), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Definitely on the same track.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

isnt it a problem that there will always be douchebags that don't tip, and so the rest that do tip end up having to pay more to get the servers on a income level comparable to if they were just paid a straight wage?
so assuming income stays at the same level under both systems, instituting tipping effectively takes money from the nice people and gives it to the douchebags. how is this good?

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Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 05:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

There is some crazy plan here in Ireland to reduce the wages of bar staff in the expectation that they will make it all back in tips, like in America. But this is not America, and people in pubs do not tip.

DV, you're joking? That will never work! Christ, most of the time we resent our bar staff charging us so much!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

US pints are smaller.

This isn't really true. Either that or you and your Britishes kind have taken me to the wrong pubs, repeatedly. Or someone has taken you to bad ones in the US :(

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

Pleasant Plains, you win the most annoying post of all time award.

I'll give you tip (dirtyvicar), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

nothing anybody says on these threads is true. <- except that.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

i've had 'normal' pints in the US tho yes.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

US pints are smaller.

also our seconds are shorter and our year is only 251 days. also, a day takes 13 hours here.

chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

apt block. over the week we got directions,help with facilities, general tips on neighbourhood so yknow we felt guilted into paying him extra for doing his job becos America

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 13:10 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh and eh idk if this complicates things, right, but the guy we ended up tipping was white and the guy who helped us out all week for nothing was black.

maybe I should start a new thread.

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 13:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Race shouldn't matter

I'd say if you saw the guy who was a big help you could tip him if you liked him

But if it was a guy who you had never seen before I wouldn't have tipped him

, Monday, 15 September 2014 13:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe there's a doorman's pool, just like how they handle tips at restaurants.

pplains, Monday, 15 September 2014 13:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Kinda doubt it, but I don't really know shit about doorpersons. Feel like it would be assumed that a tip was for particular help rendered by that particular individual, kind of like the police informant shoeshine boys of 'every old movie' fame.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 15 September 2014 13:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah I was probably idealising a little by hoping for a pooled system huh

kinda sucks to be the weekday guy in that case

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 13:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

if you were staying as a short-term guest AirBNB style in a building where people mostly live full-time, and the building is staffed by a doorman, the residents likely tip the doorman during the holidays, and you are under no obligation to tip for your marginal cost to the doorman's labor.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ok thks

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 17:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

next q

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 17:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

howd you get a refund form overtipping

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 17:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Do good work for others until one of them tips you

, Monday, 15 September 2014 17:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

well im shit out of luck i live in civilisation

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Monday, 15 September 2014 17:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I am getting married, and I believe that I am supposed to just tip everyone I see that day, including aunts and uncles.

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I believe you've just misread 'tipple'

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

tippling opportunities unbridled at this wedding

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I believe youve misreaded unbrided

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

misreading 'unbridled' for 'unbrided' would be grounds for a terrible fight, I think

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I believe you've misread 'grounds for divorce'

, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i like the new direction of this thread

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

xp if the dj plays 'misread' during dinner, he will get a better tip. if he plays 'grounds for divorce', he will get a different kind of tip, i.e. "hey man, maybe don't play songs with that title at a wedding. or maybe just don't play any wolf parade songs."

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

but then he'd also get a monetary tip because I don't like confrontation

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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