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The second Fireman album Rushes is a favourite of mine.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

A few thoughts:

1. There's a difference between having the production of 10cc and a GUY from 10cc.

2. London Town is as diverse a record as Macca ever recorded, underrated and almost disarmingly unforced.

3. Agreed -- there's really something to be said for the way Macca approached his first post-Beatles records. The E6 comment is spot on, tho I'd argue it's channeled via Emmit Rhodes in that it's the production, not the songwriting, that sounds like Macca.

Also, just throwing this out there: Red Rose Speedway. Like Ram, it's the fusion of the early homemade style and his more grandiose aspirations. But unlike the former, the gap between the ambitions of the sound/arrangement/production and the songwriting is palpable. It's likely why the likes of Xgau had so many problems with it upon its release, but in retrospect, it's exactly what makes it so daring and interesting...

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

1. There's a difference between having the production of 10cc and a GUY from 10cc.

Except when that guy provides backing vocals, on "The Pound Is Sinking", the result sounds a lot like 10cc.

And I don't see this homemade approach of his early solo albums as anything that could be said about his late Beatles style. Surely some of the stuff on "The White Album", maybe. Possibly also his "Let It Be" contributions before Phil Spector added all the grandeur. But on "Abbey Road", McCartney's contributions are the most polished of all, and the most polished The Beatles ever made. And after all, that was the last album they ever recorded.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait, you're saying you can't see the homemade approach to his late Beatles approach except for the fact that you do see it on two of the three albums?

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

the homemade approach to his late Beatles approach material

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Not on the last they recorded. In the case of The White Album and Let It Be, I see them as nothing else but the worst two Beatles albums, and obvious examples of how badly they performed when they didn't enjoy what they were doing. On "Abbey Road", they knew this was the last thing they did, they agreed to keep it together and work properly to make it a great album, and the result was a lot more satisfactory. And a lot more polished-sounding and "finished".

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a tendency in modernist art to something being "unfinished." You are advocating classicism.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I despise modern art.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"how badly they performed" on the white album? I don't hear it. Yes, they probably had more interpersonal strife during those sessions than they did with Abbey Road. But remember that John didn't like side two of Abbey Road.

Abbey Road, for me, is Paul taking his first steps toward his '70s pop sound that found fruition, ultimately, in GLAM. There is no vision for the production of John's songs and George's songs on that album and they took different and more radical steps in working with Spector on their subsequent solo albums.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

But remember that John didn't like side two of Abbey Road.

A sense of quality at the time. John Lennon lost all sense of quality after "I Am The Walrus" (his last masterpiece) and didn't quite regain it until after his "housewife" periode in the late 70s.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I understand that you like certain things about McCartney, but you present it as though the things you like in him define him and they don't (i.e., "McCartney is pop," "a McCartney record should have glossy pop production"). If you don't think he's a modernist, I'd suggest taking a look at his paintings or reading Barry Miles' book.

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree completely, but spare yourself the paintings.

Bob Six, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh Geirpaws!!! Well, I shouldn't be surprised that Geir doesn't like Plastic Ono Band.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

spare yourself the paintings.

Why? Here's one called "Bowie Spewing":

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/english/bbspew.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"The Queen after her first cigarette":

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/indexb.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Wrong link. Here's the one:

http://www.siwikultur.de/pmc/english/bqueen1.htm

Tim Ellison, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

In popular music, as opposed to painting, classisism still exists and is still respected.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"Monkberry Moon Delight" is my favorite Paul solo track.

London Town is an unjustly overlooked classic. "Cafe on the Left Bank?" "I've Had Enough?" "Cuff Link?" Sheer genius.

Red Rose Speedway also deserves another look; it has the daftest combination of sophisticated songwriting and a tossed-off feel that I've ever heard. It disorients me. The closing medley is one of his finest moments - someone mentioned on another thread that it is an obvious antecedent to Quadrophenia and I couldn't agree more..

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and has anybody heard Thrillington? Such a guilty, delicious pleasure...

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Thrillington is really lovely and really points up just how richly detailed Ram is. As someone who loves almost all of the albums open to the poll, I don't think I could vote for any one, but Ram certainly has the edge of the most gestures and textures per square minute of any McCartney record. Glad to see Red Rose Speedway getting some love, though - it's been growing on me over the last few years. Even if "Loup (First Indian On The Moon)" will always be basically lousy, it's a fun kind of lousy, and then you have just utter gems like "Single Pigeon" in there... It was originally intended to be a double album, wasn't it? One trembles to imagine.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

That was a really cool sounding band with Henry McCullough. The good tracks on that album, like "Big Barn Bed" and "Get on the Right Thing" are really, really good! (And, yeah, Dr. Casino, "Single Pigeon" is a beauty.)

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Little Lamb Dragonfly," people.

Davey D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I copied "Arrow Through Me" onto my iPod for my Seattle trip this weekend (I have Matthew Weiner to thank for teaching me to love it).

I continue to rep for the increasingly bizarre Press To Play (it gets weirder the longer I listen, the older I get, and the more Wings records I acquire).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I copied "Arrow Through Me" onto my iPod for my Seattle trip this weekend (I have Matthew Weiner to thank for teaching me to love it).

I continue to rep for the increasingly bizarre Press To Play (it gets weirder the longer I listen, the older I get, and the more Wings records I acquire).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Twin Freaks!

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Huh, thought I posted about this earlier....maybe it ended up on some poor other thread. Anyway: Love "Dragonfly," can't take "Little Lamb" under any circumstances. (See also the vast superiority of "Love Awake" over "Winter Rose"; "Good Times Coming" over "Feel The Sun," etc.)

Yes, Twin Freaks!

I keep giving Press To Play more chances, and certain parts of it keep growing on me, while others (mainly, the self-consciously "rockin'" moments) just sit there on the platter. Would love to swap out those numbers for some of the odder things McCartney recorded and never released in the mid-80s, eg "Love Come Tumbling Down," "Return To Pepperland," "Lindiana" etc... all of which are on my to-do list for my own personal two-disc McCartney covers project (two songs down! twenty-four to go!), to culminate, of course, in "Power Cut"...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I understand that P-Mac's next solo record has a big song suite

Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link

and it's a Starbucks release!

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

More info, Dom?

Davey D, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted for Driving Rain, I just find it his most emotional and emotionally satisfying work.

Billy Dods, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Into it!

Davey D, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, that's pretty good. If it had shown up on the last XTC record, I'd probably be saying that Andy Partridge's McCartneyisms are getting out of hand, but when McCartney's McCartneyisms (love that he's back into double tracking his vox) are good, I like them.

Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Who did he record the album with? That really feels like a treading water song to me, I'm sorry to say. Someone should play him the new of Montreal and Jennifer Gentle (the one coming out this summer on Sub Pop) albums and then he could just go at it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't believe he has another solo album already; when did he have the time to do it with his touring and divorce?

akm, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds to me more like Paul McCartney's Partridgisms. Not that it's a bad idea though, sounds like one of his better solo singles to me.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Who did he record the album with?

It was produced by David Kahne who did Driving Rain, which for me doesn't bode well, not an album I've ever got into. Over long and a bit dull. On the other hand, that's the second time I've heard that single and it's sounding pretty good.

cheasyweasel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"From a Lover To a Friend" is the only song on DR that really affects me -- but it really affects me...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"Driving Rain" is a very patchy album, but I don't feel like putting down the entire album. "From a Lover To a Friend" is great, and there's also the title track, which is among his better uptempo pop songs.

Not among his best solo albums though.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

II you fules.

jim, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Which one has Temporary Secretary?

filthy dylan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Because, that one.

filthy dylan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

II does. Driving Rain is pretty good.

akm, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

or it is if you turn it off before "freedom" comes on

akm, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The new album's artwork is not very rad.

Davey D, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I R corny indie fuXor -- i voted for mccartney II mostly on the strength of "coming up."

Eisbaer, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Results!

Davey D, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Ram lol.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

that seems about right -- in any case, top 5 are the ones I still have

Dominique, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

My vote for Press to Play wasn't tabulated. Revulsion?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised Wild Life got nothing. It's actually pretty good - much better than II anyway.

everything, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

very fa'kin' funny michael

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

So yeah I pass on Regards (though the film has its uses), but I am to some degree a Press to Play defender.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

come sit by me then

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

he's a has been at this point along with bob dylan (his last decent record was 'desire')

CerebralCaustic, Monday, 6 February 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link

more caustic opinions plz

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link

More cerebral opinions please

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

At least one would be a start.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

Chat more chat

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 February 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

Oh God y'all, I'm listening to Give My Regards to Broad Street for the first time in probably 20 years, probably for the second or third time ever, and there's so many oddball sonic and production choices all over this thing.


"Ballroom Dancing" is a crappy listen, but does it have Dave Edmonds on it? I feel like maybe that boogie-cum-unnecessarily-loud-brass-arrangement brew all might've made more sense if you were watching the film (ok, that's a lie -- no film Paul McCartney has ever been behind has ever made a lick of sense).

Fake edit: Ok so now I’m WATCHING THE GIVE MY REGARDS MOVIE on YouTube and there is a whole sequence of them shooting a video to this in a ballroom and a West Side Story-esque tussle over a woman. The arrangement does actually make a little more sense when you’re watching it. John Paul Jones, Edmonds and Chris Spedding and Ringo are all playing on it.

Other things, I’m noticing:

There’s a whole sequence at the beginning of this movie with Paul, recording in a studio with Ringo, who is tuning his drums initially, while George Martin is producing. Oh hey look, on trombone is the same guy who played on Sergeant Pepper, who also so happened to teach trombone at my college while I was there.

Tracy Ullman shows up about a half hour into this, I think as the girlfriend of Harry who they think stole the mater tapes. There are actually a lot of pretty good actors in this. I have to imagine a bunch of people just wanted to work with Paul.

Now after some guy break danced through “Silly Love Songs,” with the whole band dressed like some 80s French aristocrats, with shaved mullet wigs and white makeup, we’re on to Live From Paulie’s House where Paul and his band do some rough and ready version of “Not Such a Bad Boy.” Linda is rocking a splendid fedora.

“So Bad” comes next. I’ve always had a soft spot for this kind of awful song. It got a ton of radio play the year before. Eric Stewart is here now looking like Matthew Sweet, as are about 400 overdubbed 10cc background vocals that are clearly not Live From Paulie’s House.

The third song from this section is No Values, which I have zero memory of. It’s a p good rocker.

Well, I guess I am live blogging this now, so I suppose I’ll just keep going.

Now a radio interview followed by straight arrow (thru me) live in the studio versions of For No One and Eleanor Rigby. I actually kind of wonder, when combined with the studio stuff earlier in the movie, Paul just wanted to show himself playing and singing a bunch of these tunes effortlessly but also, with his studious filming of mixing board faders and racked gear, to demonstrate all the craft and care that goes into capturing and promoting this stuff.

Ok so Eleanor Rigby evolves into a show hall performance and then a fantasy sequence with Paul in some Vixtorian era carriage with him and Ringo drinking wine and eating grapes by a lake and rowing boats with swans. Sunday in the Park with Paul and Ringo … but not George (or John, he’s dead).

The pastoral bliss is interrupted when Paul imagines Harry stealing the tape and everyone goes over a waterfall and dies.

Now it’s snowing and Victorian Paul sees a ghostly Linda riding a horse in the sky. Then he’s wandering the streets of London with the whores and drunkards, peering like Jack the Ripper at Harry skulking around with the tapes. Harry tries to hide the tapes but is caught by some Peter Grant looking heavy we met a few scenes earlier in the movie and beats him. Then the actual Jack the Ripper who is a record executive I think shows up in a carriage and stabs him. Jokes on you, Harry – those tapes you stole were from Press to Play! Anyway Harry stumbles back to the steps of a concert hall with all the record execs and dies there. Paul then awakes from his dream.

Paul gets back in his ZZ Top car from the beginning of the movie, which has a computer in it that gives him his schedule for the day. He drives past the Battersea powerstation, listening to the Wings version of Band of the Run.

Now he goes to Ralph Richardson’s house. Ralph has a monkey. Ralph serves him tea and suggests Paul slow down a bit and then looks like he’s about to hypnotize him.

Paul cruises around the streets of London some more in his ZZ Top car, listening to a cheesy Baker Street sax version of him singing “The Long and Winding Road.” Meanwhile Tracy Ullmann laments Harry’s disappearance. Brian Brown, his manager, paces a lot and the shadowy corporate guys walk around with suitcases because they’re going to foreclose on Paul or something if he doesn’t find the tapes in time.

Anyway, Paul drives past the Broad Street rail station and has a revelation and parks his ZZ Top car. As he walks around the abandoned rail station to “No More Lonely Nights” Paul imagines himself as a busker. And then once his fantasy ends, he looks over at the bench next to him and sees his master tape lying there in the rain. And then he hears poor Harry who apparently locked himself in a shed thinking it was a toilet. Mystery solved!

Paul rings Linda from his ZZ Top car to let her know he’s found the tapes and Harry. Brian Brown informs the suits who look sad they won’t be able to foreclose on the McCartney family farm.

Paul then wakes up in his car and realizes he’s been daydreaming whole time. Cue the disco version of “No More Lonely Nights” over the credits which, yeah, I’d completely forgotten and apparently has Anne Dudley on synths. This thing is extended. After doing 1980s versions of all of his songs, it’s legit like he just timewarped back to 1979 for this. Why? No one knows.

This is all ridiculous and meaningless. But it’s a lot easier to watch when you realize Paul’s entire concept is just to do his own Hard Day’s Night.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link

some of these wings albums aren't half bad y'know

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link

is the movie better or worse than the 70s sgt pepper one

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link

better because it's never actually boring except for this bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3rG4vm06kE - which apparently lasts 12 minutes but feels like 12 years.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link

Ebert said that when he told Paul his movie was no good, Paul looked like he wanted to kill him.

Magical Mystery Tour is very close to the worst movie of all time with some of the best scenes.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link

"his movie" i.e. Broad Street

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 03:46 (one year ago) link

Magical Mystery Tour would've worked out great had they simply cut out the musical sequences and sent those out to Ed Sullivan, the BBC and other television programs, similar to what they had been doing with their other proto-music videos. It probably wasn't economically feasible though - they needed to recoup the cost of making that film and that wasn't going to happen unless they had an hour-long program to sell.

FWIW, I thought Dylan should've done the same with the 1975 tour footage that became Renaldo and Clara - the film was always going to be a mess and he needed to deliver a live show to NBC anyway, so he should've just ditched his ill-conceived narrative film idea and simply cut together a concert film. In that case, it would've been a far better financial decision had he done so - he ended up spending a great deal of money shooting that Colorado show for the NBC broadcast, and then he poured a ton of additional money into Renaldo and Clara as he kept editing it for another two years, leaving himself buried in a ton of debt (which was the main reason he did those awful Budokan shows - to financially right the ship).

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 04:03 (one year ago) link

Ebert said that when he told Paul his movie was no good, Paul looked like he wanted to kill him.

lol yeah it was Siskel, who said McCartney almost threw a glass of OJ in his face.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 10:25 (one year ago) link

McCartney not even the best filmmaker in the Beatles.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:11 (one year ago) link

omg that looks so awful.

appreciate the liveblog, NTI.... Wow, I don't think I ever really had a clear sense of what the movie was, just that it looked very uninteresting and uncool, even to a teenage Beatle nerd weighing the VHS box at Blockbuster. I wish I'd been more adventurous, since it does at least sound *memorably* bad. The sheer quantity of dream sequences! He must have thought that the success of MTV was an endorsement for the kind of nigh-structureless MMT model of "there's some songs, and then in between, things happen!" well again: maybe if the songs had been there. but now I'm picturing a 70s version with the Band on the Run tracklist and it still seems pretty wince-worthy.

got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

I saw this movie in the theater, my pick.

My step-brother leaned into my ear the whole time, going "this SUUUUCCCCCKKKKS."

pplains, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Paul McCartney's new tour is called Got Back:

https://www.paulmccartney.com/live/got-back-tour

It'll be the first tour under his new name, Sir-Macs-a-Lot.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 14:18 (six months ago) link


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