quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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Yeah, I was kinda torn on that one between "she's basically right" and "man is she exaggerating."

I mean she compares being taken to a different city jail than the ones protesters thought to extraordinary rendition (where literally NO ONE has any idea where you are for months or years).

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 October 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

also as others have pointed out she is wearing a cocktail dress not an evening dress

max, Thursday, 20 October 2011 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I was kinda torn on that one between "she's basically right" and "man is she exaggerating."

― pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:40 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ladies and gentlemen... naomi wolfe

ice cr?m, Thursday, 20 October 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

The cop in that video is absolutely not screaming at her. There are not twenty policemen taking her away. There are about twenty photographers on hand though and press shouting questions at her.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/world/africa/in-his-last-days-qaddafi-wearied-of-fugitives-life.html?pagewanted=all

Under siege by the former rebels for weeks, Colonel Qaddafi grew impatient with life on the run in the city of Surt, said the official, Mansour Dhao Ibrahim, the leader of the feared People’s Guard, a network of loyalists, volunteers and informants. “He would say: ‘Why is there no electricity? Why is there no water?’ ”

dayo, Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/realestate/childhood-homes-the-toys-are-gone-but-its-still-home.html

“I’m still very ambivalent,” said Mr. Geist, whose mother lives in Greenwich Village and whose father died in 2005. “I appreciate how much space I have compared to many people, but it’s an odd mix of cozy and entrapment. I look out the bedroom window and see the same view I’ve seen for as long as I could remember. I can alter the space, I can rearrange the furniture, but there’s very little I can do about the view.”

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

dayo - A+

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 October 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link

Emoticons can produce another layer of confusion, however: they don’t always read the same way across different technical interfaces. “In the text function of my BlackBerry there is a sidebar menu of emoticons (how ridiculous is that?) that shows the yellow smiley faces, except they are also crying and raging, and winking and blowing kisses, etc.,” Dr. Bates wrote. “I sent a fairly new acquaintance a ‘big hug’ emoticon — which, for the record, was ironic. But anyway, on his iPhone it came up with the symbols, not the smiley face, which don’t look anything like a big hug. From his perspective they look like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({}).“He then ran around his lab showing colleagues excitedly what I had just sent him. Half (mostly men) concurred with his interpretation, and the others (mostly women) didn’t and probably thought he was kind of a desperate perv.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/fashion/emoticons-move-to-the-business-world-cultural-studies.html

James Mitchell, Monday, 24 October 2011 09:20 (twelve years ago) link

like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})
like a view of, er, splayed lady parts: ({})

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 October 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

the new york times printed that.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 October 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

The great splayed lady

joygoat, Monday, 24 October 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

"I made a mental inventory of my own birded totes and T-shirts and saw them as trite for the first time. Ashamed, I recognized myself. "

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, about a month ago a coworker of my wife's stopped by with what was apparently (I found out later) a very expensive limited edition marc jacobs bag with these gold-plated birds on it. I pointed at it and said "Put a bird on it!" She got the reference. My wife wondered later if she was going to stop wearing the bag now.

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

You have a v expensive marc jacobs bag you wear it. it's now a very expensive ironic joke *head explodes*

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Man, I hope people never figure out that stuff with SKULLS are trite. Entire segments of products are just going to die off

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

On the plus side it would mean Ed Hardy would kill himself,

Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Monday, 24 October 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Ed Hardy is dead

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

It worked!

Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

Actually he's alive. Maybe I was thinking von Dutch? But he's just an old school tattoo artist who sold his name and rights to some douchebag designer.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ed Hardy the dude seems ok, just old.

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

Their only complaint is the small size of the garbage and recycling closet in the hallway. It fills quickly, so they must either call the porter or take their boxes to the trash room off the lobby.

spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Friday, 28 October 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

call the what now

j., Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

hey porter

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Saturday, 29 October 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

This could go in any number of threads, but since there's a rolling NYT thread, here we are: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/29/opinion/what-the-costumes-reveal.html?_r=1&hp

The party is the firm’s big annual bash. Employees wear Halloween costumes to the office, where they party until around noon, and then return to work, still in costume. I can’t tell you how people dressed for this year’s party, but I can tell you about last year’s.

That’s because a former employee of Steven J. Baum recently sent me snapshots of last year’s party. In an e-mail, she said that she wanted me to see them because they showed an appalling lack of compassion toward the homeowners — invariably poor and down on their luck — that the Baum firm had brought foreclosure proceedings against.

When we spoke later, she added that the snapshots are an accurate representation of the firm’s mind-set. “There is this really cavalier attitude,” she said. “It doesn’t matter that people are going to lose their homes.” Nor does the firm try to help people get mortgage modifications; the pressure, always, is to foreclose. I told her I wanted to post the photos on The Times’s Web site so that readers could see them. She agreed, but asked to remain anonymous because she said she fears retaliation.

Let me describe a few of the photos. In one, two Baum employees are dressed like homeless people. One is holding a bottle of liquor. The other has a sign around her neck that reads: “3rd party squatter. I lost my home and I was never served.” My source said that “I was never served” is meant to mock “the typical excuse” of the homeowner trying to evade a foreclosure proceeding.

A second picture shows a coffin with a picture of a woman whose eyes have been cut out. A sign on the coffin reads: “Rest in Peace. Crazy Susie.” The reference is to Susan Chana Lask, a lawyer who had filed a class-action suit against Steven J. Baum — and had posted a YouTube video denouncing the firm’s foreclosure practices. “She was a thorn in their side,” said my source.

A third photograph shows a corner of Baum’s office decorated to look like a row of foreclosed homes. Another shows a sign that reads, “Baum Estates” — needless to say, it’s also full of foreclosed houses. Most of the other pictures show either mock homeless camps or mock foreclosure signs — or both. My source told me that not every Baum department used the party to make fun of the troubled homeowners they made their living suing. But some clearly did. The adjective she’d used when she sent them to me — “appalling” — struck me as exactly right.

These pictures are hardly the first piece of evidence that the Baum firm treats homeowners shabbily — or that it uses dubious legal practices to do so. It is under investigation by the New York attorney general, Eric Schneiderman. It recently agreed to pay $2 million to resolve an investigation by the Department of Justice into whether the firm had “filed misleading pleadings, affidavits, and mortgage assignments in the state and federal courts in New York.” (In the press release announcing the settlement, Baum acknowledged only that “it occasionally made inadvertent errors.”)

Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

wooooooooow

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 October 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

just a bit of fun

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 30 October 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

I can kind of get behind the 'technology is replacing jobs' part of this op-ed but the author is really tone-deaf. the by-line is a nice punchline too

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/sunday/our-unpaid-extra-shadow-work.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=all

There was a time when a gas station attendant would routinely fill your tank and even check your oil and clean your windshield and rear window without charge, then settle your bill. Today, all those jobs have been transferred to the customer: we pump our own gas, squeegee our own windshield, and pay our own bill by swiping a credit card. Where customers once received service from the service station, they now provide “self-service” — a synonym for “no service.” Technology enables this sleight of hand, which lets gas stations cut their payrolls, having co-opted their patrons into doing these jobs without pay.

dayo, Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

Reminds me of a line in the New Yorker's otherwise mostly good Ikea feature -- something to the effect of "Ikea has stealthily scored a massive coup by shifting labor to the customer." I mean it's not like everyone used to just get pre-assembled, delivered furniture at Ikea prices.

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

Half of that article belongs in our "society is in the gutter" thread, seriously.

I understand the whole "shadow work" thing but I've heard it applied much more effectively to modern living than the examples given. These are basically the "why must I move things with my hands" complaints. The parts where they complain about the end of travel agents and the like is especially lulzy

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I'm kind of split on this one between being sorry that this kills jobs for people but also just feeling like "Come on, I can pump my own goddamned gas." I do hate self-checkouts though, those are for suckers.

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

I like them when I have very few items or I'm feeling misanthropic.

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

IIRC, a lot of the places that had massive amounts of personal service (department stores, forex) back in the old days also did massive amounts of markups on merchandise.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 31 October 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

I do hate self-checkouts though, those are for suckers.

how about signs on the checkout lanes at co-ops that say 'due to the repetitive stress involved in moving a large number of items per day, we ask you to please remove your own items from your cart at checkout'.

j., Monday, 31 October 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

I tuned out when you said "coops" as that is its own world of quiddities and agonies

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

if you're a rich person in manhattan you can walk outside and immediately have a car drive you somewhere, have someone else do your grocery shopping, have someone walk your dog. almost anything you can imagine, prob. I mean lot of these services are basically affordable to the middle class cause they're omnipresent and there are economies of scale.

but gas stations and grocery stores that are frequented by people across the class spectrum are a different story. they're going to inevitably compete on price. that guy's writing from cambridge, which is far above median income but not the kinda place where gas and grocery stores are gonna be competiting on 'experience' instead of price. I don't think grocery stores in extremely wealthy and isolated suburbs are rushing towards self-checkout.

iatee, Monday, 31 October 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

I mean lot of these services are basically affordable to the middle class cause they're omnipresent and there are economies of scale.

This was the weird realization I had recently about Fresh Direct, btw. Every time we order I still kind of have to look at the receipt three times to believe that it's about the same price as our grocery store to have these two guys bring food into our kitchen like I'm some kind of british colonial administrator

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 October 2011 05:11 (twelve years ago) link

not to turn this into another suburbs thread but it does seem like dense places are naturally going to be better markets for personal service jobs because there are going to be more niche markets and economies of scale.

feel like even if you attempt to totally remove the super-rich from the equation, which is obv impossible, the average 'middle class' person in nyc is more likely to be funding personal-service industry jobs with their forms of consumption. food delivery, taxis, fresh direct etc. I have no concrete evidence to back this up w/ but it 'seems true'.

iatee, Monday, 31 October 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link

and I mean unemployment still sucks bad here so whatever this effect is it isn't overwhelming or anything but I'd like to read a paper on this subject

iatee, Monday, 31 October 2011 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

I have to get into this Fresh Direct thing because it took me 2.5 hours to go to the store today.

WE DO NOT HAVE "SECRET" "MEETINGS." I DO NOT HAVE A SECOND (Laurel), Monday, 31 October 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

i will cop to heavy freshdirect usage
fucking sucks to haul two weeks groceries fifteen blocks, specially when you don't have a cart

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 October 2011 06:32 (twelve years ago) link

After we moved to an apartment that was not directly next to a grocery store (and across the street from a second and two blocks from a third), we decided that we would use Peapod sometimes, when we were really busy, and then get a I-Go car and drive to the grocery store that's about .7 miles away other times. That lasted about five months and now we just order from Peapod. It's cost-equivalent when you factor in the cost of the car share and damn is it nice not to have to carry boxes of cat litter up the stairs.

They're coming to get you, (Jenny), Monday, 31 October 2011 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

When I lived near a Trader Joe's and a decent produce store it was cheaper to shop on foot, but now my options are the bougie C-Town (which has almost no produce), the Kim's market (which is pricey and not even good) and some pretty lousy and overpriced korean grocers. I do have the McCarren farmer's market on weekends about a 15-20 minute walk away but it's kind of expensive, and Fresh Direct has surprisingly good produce for less. I still do meat at the local butcher.

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 October 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Relevant to speak of self-checkouts and "shadow labor":
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/31/apple-retail-stores-to-allow-self-checkout-via-ios-app-for-accessory-purchases/

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

“I had a whole vintage teacup collection that is now so hideous to me,” Ms. Koons said. “I feel like I am going to make my own fire and torch it all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/garden/all-that-authenticity-may-be-getting-old.html?_r=1&hpw

SongOfSam, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

“I felt like an employee at a Ford plant,” he said, “drilling 1,200 holes in a day or two.”
such unbearable hardship
poor dear

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really think that guy is *the ruling class*

pass the duchy pon the left hand side (musical duke) (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link


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