also the ending to the renoir is 1,000 times more shocking. now lang could have never gotten away with it, thanks to the code, but i don't think renoir's approach would have suited lang anyhow.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 24 October 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
I really dig 'You Only Live Once', though part of that is pure undying love for Sylvia Sidney
http://classiq.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/henry-fonda-sylvia-sidney-you-only-live-once.bmp
― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Monday, 24 October 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
sylvia sidney is the awesomest. you ought to see "you and me," too--there's a lot more of her in that one than in "you only live once."
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 24 October 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
Prefer TWITW over Scarlet Street when it comes to the Robinson, Jr-Lang pictures. We were talking about filmed dreams in the Inception thread; the most poignant moment of realism in what's ostensibly a dream comes when Robinson settles into a chair near the end of the picture and mumbles, "I'm tired. So, so tired."
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 October 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
you ought to see "you and me," too--there's a lot more of her in that one than in "you only live once."
Right, I'm ordering this NOW
― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
it's on a german DVD. du und ich.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
i think.
I must sing the praises of "Dr Mabuse - Der Spieler" (in English as The Gambler, Player, and so on). It is a far better film than Metropolis, with a better (if bizarre) plot and more memorable characters.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
"You And Me" such a fun film. Totally panned (I think) on its release. One of my fave Langs. The mobster "types" almost right out of "M". And, yes, Sylvia Sidney at her most adorable.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah dr. mabuse is probably my favorite lang film, tied with spies.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
3-pack of his silent "juvenilia":
http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/11/06/fritz-lang-long-ago/
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
yeah dr. mabuse is probably my favorite lang film, tied with spies.― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:46 PM (2 years ago)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:46 PM (2 years ago)
― Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Forget it, Fritz, it's Metropolistown.
― Sodade Stereo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 October 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Wow, Scarlet Street is one weird ass movie. Robinson's fantastic, though.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 February 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link
Heh, I love that one.
― Nhex, Monday, 17 February 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Very good commentary track by Lang expert David Kalat on the Region 1 Kino DVD of Scarlet Street
Dan Dureya is SO creepy in SS
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 February 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
"Paint me, Chris."
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 February 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
Dan Duryea creepy in everything, including Allan Dwan Western I saw last year, can't remember if it was one Morbius was at too.
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 February 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Silver Lode is the one I'm thinking of.
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 February 2014 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Love Robinson's paintings in SS, too - would be great if someone cld do a pataphysical-style recreation of them
http://wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/scarletstreet.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 February 2014 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I realize that I made it sound like I was dissing the film in my original post. Rest assured, "one weird ass movie" is not a put down in my world. But I really was WTF'ing throughout most of the second half.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 17 February 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
this week, reviewing silent FL:
http://notcoming.com/features/silentlang/
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link
have you (or any ilxor) ever seen all of die nibelungen? i don't think i've ever sat through a silent film that long
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
Kevin J.B. and I saw Siegfried at the Austin Alamo Drafthouse about 5 years ago; haven't seen the rest.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Seen both, on successive weekends in Munich. Go.
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
TCM has Metropolis, Fury, Scarlet Street, The Blue Gardenia, Moonfleet and While the City Sleeps on Friday.
― Funk autocorrect (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 May 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Found Ministry of Fear to be kind of a discount Hitchcock. Fun for a while, then less interesting as more of the plot was revealed. Not surprised to hear that Lang was unsatisfied with the ending, though I did laugh at the last line.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
"I've never been thanked like this before!"
― Nhex, Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Been meaning to see Destiny and Die Nibelungen for years.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
destiny and esp. die nibelungen are both incredible, though the latter requires a serious time investment. (totally worth it)
i have to admit to being generally underwhelmed by most of lang's wwII-era films. they all have some great things in them, but also some terrible things, and often they don't really follow through that well on an intriguing premise.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link
I've seen some amazing screenshots of Destiny but rarely see much talk of it. Glad to hear an enthusiastic recommendation of both.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:11 (nine years ago) link
i think the existing DVD of "destiny" kind of sucks, unfortunately, and may be a cut version. there's a blu-ray of "die nibelungen" that's stunning, though.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
"Cut" as in censored or just a shorter version (because a lot of silent films have incomplete versions)?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Ministry of Fear is pretty non descript. I was excited to watch it when the uni library got a copy. Casting Ray Milland = the deal is off.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:19 (nine years ago) link
i think maybe just missing parts of a fuller version that exists. i'm not sure.
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oh, i like ray milland.
i think joan bennett's accent in "man hunt" may be the worst thing in any fritz lang movie (caveat: there's a few i haven't seen)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
Ray Millbland more like
haha yes re Bennett's accent. I love her though, esp her perf in The Woman in the Window.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah, joan bennett is fantastic, just don't ask her to do a cockney accent.
ray milland is pretty great in the lost weekend, no? and in the man with x-ray eyes!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
joan bennett got a man shot, what more do you want?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link
Ray Millbland more likelol. Have you seen this excerpt from the Charles Brackett diaries?
March 18: . . . went on the set, to find distress: Ray Milland giving a dry, wooden performance (his usual performance to speak the truth)
― Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link
i have to admit to being generally underwhelmed by most of lang's wwII-era films.
not Scarlet Street, surely.
I like Milland most of the time! You guys better stay clear of ilx superfan Virginia Plain.
I rewatched M this week, now knowing that FL did 20 takes of the hoods throwing Lorre down the stairs. Lang couldn't figure out why Lorre was cool to him in the Hollywood years.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link
I mean La Chienne > Scarlet Street, but closer than you'd think
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link
Still have to read Lorre bio.
― Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
I guess I meant the war/spy thrillers. isn't scarlet street 1945... i think of it was post-war.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah, scarlet street nearly as good as la chienne. la chienne has two big points in its favor: michel simon, and the ending.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:32 (nine years ago) link
Is there anything Michel Simon isn't great in?
― Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link
possibly, but i haven't seen it
apparently he was a really malevolent (and, naturally, extremely eccentric) dude
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link
Mmm ... Scarlet Street > La Chienne
If only for that last minute.
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 January 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link
Anyone have any defence of The Blue Gardenia? I found it to be an OK time-waster, but really nothing more.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 7 February 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm reading descriptions and trying to figure out if I saw it a couple of years ago or not. I'm about 80% sure I did--if so, the uncertainty indicates I had the same reaction.
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 February 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
Is that the one with creepy Raymond Burr? If so I liked it only for creepy Burr.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
James...
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link
Someone else says that Dolores del Rio once slapped him for similar behavior, which I can also believe, although the source is gossipy and unreliable.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
Anyway, back to the topic at hand.
Get on the Oscars thread. We're distracted tonight.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link
Unless somebody wants to start an Archie Mayo thread. *ducks*
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link
Oh wait, I already started it.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link
Do not listen to them James, strongly support your counter-programming for those of us who don't give a fuck about the Oscars.
Archie Mayo as a creepy practical joker is surprising, since most times I've encountered his name it's been in stern faced message movies. I do love Petrified Forest, stagey and overblown though it may be.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 March 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link
Well, the Oscars have ended.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 10:21 (one year ago) link
Huge if true.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 March 2023 10:24 (one year ago) link
People watching Lang.
The thing that made fascism click for me as an ideology before and beyond a specific political formation was watching Metropolis. Brilliant propaganda film and all the more so because few people clock it as one, even today. I'm not even sure Lang did. Anyway, check it out.— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 14, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
Not sure about this "few people clock it as one", everyone in the ILX Film Club seemed to.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link