Defend the Indefensible: Comic Sans Serif

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if i ever bought a comic that used this font, i'd burn it.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes it's a good font for dyslexics. They tend to find all caps difficult to read too.

Zazas Zazas Nasatanada Katzenellenbogen by the Sea (noodle vague), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

everyone finds all caps difficult to read. that's why it's rule #1 of the internet to never do it.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I dispute that a little (all caps tends to work better for navigation menus if they're graphical - though you may well argue that graphical naviagtion menus should be avoided anyway).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

anything over two words is an eye-fucker.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it depends on the menu steve (e.g. i don't think it'd work too well with the MS Word menu bar if all the text were ALL CAPS)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, The Dark Knight Returns is responsible for Comic Sans!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I was just thinking about websites Kendog.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Well if you mean that capitals are clearer than lowercase at smaller font sizes, then yes.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

His brother is a world class bridge player, I think.

Draw Tipsy, ya hack. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I was about to summon up some kind of defense just to be contrary but then I read that guy's story about why he created it. Indefensible!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000AG9W.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Though I'm not 100% sure of this one, it still works.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/wallpaper/images/colin_640.jpg

Colin Hunt, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Proof that you all hate fun. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

note that it's mostly the middle-aged women in your office who use this font.

Comic Sans: Official Typeface Choice of Your Aunts

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I read that as Anus.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

No, that's the poster.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

My anus?

or your?

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I shit better fonts than Comic Sans.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

That Factory parody is incredible and is going straight onto my desktop at work!

There was an edition of Crearive Review last year where they got designers to use Comic Sans to reclaim it - they mostly failed.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://wizardishungry.com/no/nickbuzz.jpg

Lingbertt, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ROCK ON, BRAH

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I am impressed that Comic Sans was originally created for inclusion in Microsoft Bob. That's *2* horrible things that that program has left us with.

(the other being the annoying Office paperclip/cat/dog/whatever)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(I mean, *intended* for inclusion with Bob - apparently it never actually was used in that)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

So is Comic Avec Serif okay, then?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

god, that guy did trebuchet too? what a crap legacy.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Comic Sans MS: the font of choice for badly designed web pages. (What would its Mac equivalent be, I wonder?)

M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Chicago.

Oh, snap!

already disheveled hair projection (wetmink), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

That Factory parody is incredible and is going straight onto my desktop at work!

Amen!

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i just stopped someone using comic sans serif on a document that would have gone to hundreds of people by writing 'oh dear god anything but comic sans serif as the font!' and he said he kind of liked it, and i explained how bad it is and about this thread and how the creator apologises for it, and he's now changed it. hurrah.

colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

algerian is a thousand times worse

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

sometimes i really hate the advent of the personal computer for its role in THE MURDER OF TYPE DESIGN.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever used comic sans serif

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim has slandered me above.

Waging war on comic sans at work is one of the most satisying parts of my job. It's also one of the least successful.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

there isn't actually the word "serif" in its name btw! (it's just comic sans)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

algerian is a thousand times worse

AGREED!!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Algerian is horrible because it looks kind of fancy but also kind of wacky, and so everyone uses it when they want an "interesting-looking" font.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

There was an edition of Crearive Review last year where they got designers to use Comic Sans to reclaim it - they mostly failed.

yes, although I like what one guy did with the lower case 't', making it a tombstone type thing in pictorial form.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

algerian just always looks so tacky. instant loss of respect for anyone who uses it.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

ya know, people rag on arial because it's a "cheap helvetica knockoff" (and it is), but honestly there's nothing really egregious about it and these days it's a breath of fresh air.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm always meaning to delete all serifed fonts from my system bar Times, Georgia and Palatino. Most of the sans ones can go too. Even as a designer I think I might only need 20 proper font sets, though I really ought to try creating my own sometime.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a font that I see on all sorts of "KIDS CORNER!" types of things, like for instance a brochure for children's events at a museum. I think this is it, or close:

http://www.momscorner4kids.com/fonts/images/whimsy.gif

I hate it so much.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

My local butcher's home page (it's the pic on the right). Please note that not only is the website in Comic Sans, but SO IS THE FUCKING SHOP SIGN.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

store owners should NOT be allowed to make their own signs. unless they're, y'know, print shops or something.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

that sign was probably made from a print shop, s/c..

hehe the butcher's is called "snoggy's"

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

pleasant plains made me roffle.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Comic Snas is used by who like work training courses, organising fun and excessive exclamation marks. They have a deep vacuum of self-hatred where the rest of us have souls and the danger in telling them about the evilness of Comic Sans is that they realise it's a proxy for them and they may end up topping themselves as their empire of forced fun collapses and they realise that everyone hates them. IMO.

AKA the Colin Hunt of fonts.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

to me, comic neue is charles schulz lettering from 1956 and comic sans is charles schulz lettering from 1999

I made a grave mistake with my balloon at the end (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 April 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

hating comic sans is the liking bacon of boring type designers

Mordy , Monday, 7 April 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link

I have no idea why people hate comic sans and papyrus. I've even heard people hate Arial! Don't know what you have to do to get to that point.

take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Monday, 7 April 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

discovered this the other night at a friend's place.

http://s8.postimg.org/qhddaxfj9/new_makers_mark_bourbon_bottle_42_ABV_768x1024.png

Treeship, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link

some say it is one of the better typefaces for people with dyslexia to read and understand

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link

ok mentioned before but ... people with dyslexia deserve to read labels based on u.s. regulation of spirit branding??

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:36 (nine years ago) link

Dyslexic.com weigns in: " Some dyslexic people find that Comic Sans is one of the more readable of the commonly-available Windows fonts, and we have used it on this web site in the past. Others find it too bold, too childish or too informal."

http://www.dyslexic.com/fonts

King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

Yesterday a company we've been dealing with at work sent its first official status report on a 12-week project they're doing for us. The headlines were in Comic Sans and the body was in a font similar to this:

http://schoolfonts.com/printnew/_ZWriting.gif

They're a fairly niche company, but are highly recognized within our industry as basically the only people who do what we need them to do. Still, we're going to have words with them about the fonts.

how's life, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 10:47 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SF-qJ4dpP6s/hqdefault.jpg

Treeship, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

I have no idea why people hate comic sans and papyrus.

My wife likes papyrus. I have informed her that some people hate it. She was also puzzled as to why this would be so.

I suspect that it is too often associated with people who think crystals are particularly good rocks for healing stuff that needs to be healed. And those who like to talk about angels as if they were the Good Witch from the 1939 Wizard of Oz movie.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

i think the hatred for these fonts has to do with how often they are used. they are kind of goofy and poorly designed to begin with and seem to be used whenever people want to add a bit of pizzazz to lame documents. they just connote laziness and dumbness.

comic sans has sort of taken on a life of its own though. it's so widely reviled that it's become a widely acknowledged visual shorthand for unseriousness, which is kind of a weird thing. typography used to be one of those elements of graphic design that average people didn't attend to very much.

https://andrewbusch.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/comic-sans-tombstone.jpg

Treeship, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 05:26 (seven years ago) link

http://comicsansproject.tumblr.com/

Treeship, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 05:35 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Still hatin'

http://i.imgur.com/gdJu9Yd.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link

I dint think this thread revive could modify, nice job pp.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Saturday, 8 October 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link

omg

qualx, Saturday, 8 October 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

what a fun night we're going to have bradley

qualx, Saturday, 8 October 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

me [m, 37] started dating a great/funny/smart girl [f, 33] but the font she uses on her smartphone is comic sans

johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Sat here in Emergency, w Amber and her twisted ankle.

there is a similar sign to the just above. She remarked as we came in 'oo, It'll be proper A&E not children's'

I said that children's would probably be quicker.

anyway, I remembered the sign, we lagged.

ok, back to waaiting.

Mark G, Sunday, 9 October 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

i think i unironically like comic sans now, like i unironically like 'live laugh love' signs

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Monday, 7 March 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

As a teacher, I find comic sans fairly useful. I use it sparingly, but it comes in handy to make slides look more kid-friendly, or to suggest the idea of handwriting without actually using a handwriting font that kids can't read. Like, if I'm telling them to write something on a notecard, I might give them an example sentence in comic sans to emphasize this is the part that you write.

Lily Dale, Monday, 7 March 2022 22:50 (two years ago) link


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