33 1/3 Series of books

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Z: I did read it and it is good. A Poe short story, too: you can down it in one sitting.

I should really put together a proposal for "Return to the 36 Chambers".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

Did anyone hear anything about the Loveless book?

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh
Parallel Lines, by Elisabeth Vincentelli
Three Feet High and Rising, by Brian Coleman
Tusk, by Stephin Merritt
Computer Love, by Michael Bracewell
Marquee Moon, by David Keenan
Master of Puppets, by Tom Bissell
The Basement Tapes, by Damon Krukowski

The editor/creator of the series, David Barker runs a blog about the series. Email him directly if you like:


I finally read one of these. I think I picked a great place to start, Douglas Wolk's Live at the Apollo. It was really really good.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

Greatly enjoyed Meat Is Murder, the Joy Division one was more of a factual view but still very interesting, the Dusty one didn't work for me.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

God, I cannot wait for the In the Aeroplane over the Sea book. The excerpt and things I've read by the author seem like she really gets it spot on.

PB, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

why aren't those ones happening?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

i just bought the James Brown too. not started it yet.

also got the ABBA one, which i devoured in a day. twas OK, wish Ms Vincentelli had spent fewer sentences justifying (or having to justify) the book's very existence. also i'm not sure she cracked the problem of how to order the narrative, though I accept it's a toughie.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

according to the blog:

These are a few of the projects that - for various and sometimes complicated reasons - never made it to fruition. Some came very close to happening, others less so; but they all would have been fun.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh

Why not?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

For those ...

Matos' Sign O'The Times book's prince has been slashed (on Amazon at least) to $4.


Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...
I'm sorry to tell you that we've chosen not to sign up your proposal for the 33 1/3 series.

This has been a difficult process: we received dozens of very strong proposals from dozens of very good writers and it's a shame to have to turn down so many of you.

If you're interested, the 33 1/3 books we eventually decided to sign up are:

"If You're Feeling Sinister" by Scott Plagenhoef

"Aja" by Don Breithaupt

"Shoot Out the Lights" by Hayden Childs

"Pretty Hate Machine" by Daphne Carr

"Use Your Illusion" by Eric Weisbard

"Horses" by Phil Shaw

"Double Nickels on the Dime" by Mike Fournier

"Pink Moon" by Amanda Petrusich

"People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" by Shawn Taylor

"Achtung Baby" by Stephen Catanzarite

"20 Jazz Funk Greats" by Drew Daniel

"The Dreaming" by Ann Powers

"Rid of Me" by Kate Schatz

"Another Green World" by Geeta Dayal

"Songs in the Key of Life" by Zeth Lundy

"Trout Mask Replica" by Kevin Courrier

"Let's Talk About Love" by Carl Wilson

"Lucinda Williams" by Anders Smith Lindall

"69 Love Songs" by LD Beghtol

“Marquee Moon” by Peter Blauner

“Swordfishtrombones” by David Smay

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Congrats to Drew and Geeta! (Are there other ILMers on this list I don't know?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

ann powers is actually esteban buttez

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Scott P. has been around since the Greenspun days.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

i wish you could get these easily in book stores (AND NOT JUST IN THE AEROPLANE MURMUR THE SEA LIKE ROUND HERE).

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

hey everybody read the frank bruno one and then try to make yrs like him cuz it is AWESOME

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

i have only read 2

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

the franklin bruno one is not only awesome, it is superhuman. one of my fave pieces of rock criticism ever.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah same here

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

I loved that review he wrote of that indie-boy novel, so I guess I gotta get this book.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:30 (9 years ago) Permalink


cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...
DeRo disses Matos for doing (very well IMHO) what he himself does in like every review ever (poorly IEHO): http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/sho-sunday-dero04.html

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jim Milonakis?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

I found that one entertaining and was actually less satisfied with Michaelangelo Matos' self-indulgent look at Prince's "Sign o' the Times," which spent entirely too much time dwelling on how the author discovered the disc as a teenager in the Minneapolis suburbs.

So then I guess he didn't read the 100-odd pages in which Matos discussed Prince.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Shh, you're giving it away!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

"...he not only gives us the perfect adjective for Sly's dense epic ("swampy," indeed) but the nugget that this was a pioneering use of the beat box. (Who knew? I didn't.)"


Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Friday, 9 June 2006 20:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

The one supposedly on the Replacements was AWFUL!

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 9 June 2006 21:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just finished the one on PAUL'S BOUTIQUE. It's only the third I've read thus far, but it's the one I've enjoyed the most.

Yeah, it's all info, no prose. A lot of the 33 1/3 books seem to forget how much people like that.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

personally speaking, i'd read a book that wasn't taking on yet another album from the canon. c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Christ, that quotation. Shakey OTM.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

c'mon, guys! dig deeper!

Someone should do Tom T. Hall's greatest hits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

(That was a "dig deeper" joke in case it wasn't clear. LOL @ self.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just fell asleep.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

i've got an idea, fellas, let's create a book series in which we reinforce the canon some more.

seriously though, i realize the books have to sell, hence the more mainstream angle. i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

gear (gear), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

ned you should pitch that one!

actually do you think they would let somebody self-33 1/3? if it was some famous musician?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Morrissey did write a book actually! (didnt he?)

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think it was about the new york dolls or something

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

He founded the series in spirit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was on James Dean, re: Moz's book

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Morrissey on...Morrissey."

Morrissey is not attracted to Morrissey.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'm sure there are a ton of albums the writers would love to write about that aren't commercially viable for the publisher.

Carl Wilson is writing one about Celine Dion's "Let's Talk About Love".

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 10 June 2006 02:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

You are all OTM regarding the Franklin Bruno Armed Forces book, but has anyone read Daphne A. Brooks' take on Grace? I found it largely disappointing for a number of reasons. For someone who's obviously deeply in love with the material and who has deeper access to the Buckley archives than most, she made some really frustrating, bizarre factual errors. Maybe I'm being overly-pedantic, but simple mistakes like misquoting lyrics kept me from enjoying and engaging in the book as much as I could have-- like I couldn't trust her after a certain point. Clearly, I'm an asshole, but did anyone else have problems with this?

Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Saturday, 10 June 2006 03:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Aeroplane book was excellent. The Pet Sounds book was not.

Steve Schneeberg (Steve Goldberg), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Somebody pitched to do Killed by Death Vol. 2 for the last round of books. I would have loved to have read that!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

And that Kick Out the Jams book that DeRo praises was the worst I've read in the series--no original info or thinking whatsoever, and blandly told.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 10 June 2006 15:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

disappointed that the Watertown pitch from the longlist didn't make it, one of my favorite albums ever

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 23:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

Brad I can't stand Lulu but I thought yr pitch was really strong, I'm having a hard time imagining the one that made the shortlist bettering it.

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 00:50 (1 week ago) Permalink

Everett True didn't make the shortlist:


I know True isn't to everyone's taste (to say the least) but this would have been a great pick IMO.

Position Position, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 01:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

jesus christ shut up you fucking baby

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 01:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

also thank you simon, needless to say i am full of curiosity and dread about the one that made the shortlist

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 01:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

i suppose if i were E. True i would feel pretty good about proposing a Daniel Johnston book and i would be taken aback by rejection, but...yes, what Brad said

alpine static, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 05:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

that E True proposal is terrible

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 07:42 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm really pleased that Agata Pyzik got shortlisted, though she won't say what for. Presumably Kollaps or Solaris.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 07:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

if you only read one of these books, read TWENTY JAZZ FUNK GREATS by Drew Daniel. by far my favorite

flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 16:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

I think the True proposal is great, but I can at least acknowledge that it's tonally out of step with the last 10 years or so of unambitious "here's a personal essay"-style music criticism. The word "essay" should really be nowhere near music writing.

Position Position, Thursday, 1 October 2015 10:40 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm not going to rank on True. There's nothing wrong with having a hard time handling rejection. I think it's a decent proposal. Is there any market on something like Kickstarter or Patreon for writing, or is it all shitty half-baked video game/board game concepts?

rushomancy, Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

people kickstart books a lot but the whole process of writing a book likely changes in the process -- people are less likely to put aside 5k of their proceeds to hire a really good editor who'll help them shape the MS into something really great. Auteur theory is the lifeblood and Achilles heel of Kickstarter imo

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

there's a market for shitty half-baked writing about videogames! oh xp

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

i suspect true's deciding to go with 'tiresome self-promotion' rather than following the advice on the pitch guidelines didn't really help his case. also curious is this list on the website:

The following projects were contracted at some point but for various reasons are now cancelled.The following albums are now fair game:

Daniel Johnston-Hi, How Are You
Kate Bush-The Dreaming
Tori Amos-Boys for Pele
The Clash–London Calling
Wu Tang–Enter the Wu (36 Chambers)
Pulp-This is Hardcore

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

like, johnston is kind of a sensitive case, and who knows what came up related to the cancellation of the previous one (which was to be by benjamin shapiro of VICE. hm)

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

patreon just got hacked btw

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

I have a (frankly amazing) pitch if wholly-fictional accounts of albums that no one cares about ever become fair game.

Famous Monsters of ILM-land (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 October 2015 12:59 (1 week ago) Permalink

just posting here to add my voice to everyone laughing at Everett True itt

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 October 2015 14:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

a music version of this could be good


wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 1 October 2015 19:49 (1 week ago) Permalink

anybody who can write 50k words on, say, rosebud's "discoballs" deserves to be published.

rushomancy, Thursday, 1 October 2015 20:56 (1 week ago) Permalink

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