Brave -- Pixar's 2012 release

There is apparently a Monsters Inc. prequel or something coming so fuck that but hopefully things will progress forward otherwise...

what's the point of a monsters inc. movie without boo :(

*shrug*

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/29/pixarmonsters-inc-sequel-is-actually-prequ/

“The film is a prequel that tells you a little bit about how (Mike and Sully) first met, attending Monsters University,” Hollis told theater owners gathered in Las Vegas on Tuesday for their annual CinemaCon convention. “Obviously everybody knows at this point Mike and Sully are amazing friends — the best of friends — but as it turns out, in this story, that wasn’t always the case. From the moment they met at university, they could not stand each other. This story takes you through the ups and downs, and how they overcame their own differences.”

Let hate be unconfined.

speaking of fresh plotlines

another monsters inc film will be alright. at least that's a good universe with likeable characters.

fucking cars2 was so horrible I felt like I needed a brain douche after seeing it.

wreck it ralph is not a pixar film.

I was gonna point that out but it's probably hard to know where one ends and the other begins these days

They're different studios!
Yeah I'm also looking forward to the Monsters prequel. Monsters Inc is one of my favourites.

but Lasseter is in charge of both

xpost A lot of the so-called Disney princesses or whatever aren't princesses ... until they marry a prince. Belle, Cinderella, Snow White, Mulan Tiana in "Frog," not princesses. Jasmine is a princess. Sleeping Beauty is a princess. So is ... Pocahontas, I guess. And Ariel. And I guess Rapunzel. Anyway, that's a pretty fair princess rate.

BTW, is this the thread where we scratch our heads at Brad Bird doing MI:4?

theres an mi4 thread already iirc

the joeks in this trailer were really flat

pixar trailers usually kinda suck iirc

BTW, is this the thread where we scratch our heads at Brad Bird doing MI:4?

and Andrew Stanton is doing John Carter. it's kind of weird to me that they both want to get into live action.

Y'know what looks good? That Aardman Pirates movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPJF6mR6krM

Damn, I had totally missed that!

AKA The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists, in the UK, with an awesome sea-shanty trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWOFLtsDvbw

I'd be curious to see how this turns out btw - so many of the best pixar movies are very unconventional stories told in ways that really take advantage of the computer animation medium. in short, films that would never, ever work as live action films. this one it seems could probably be made as a live-action for 1/10 the cost.

yeah I promise that dozens of people and many thousands of dollars were spent on the main character's hair

the hair does look amazing to be fair

oh to be sure

i was going to post about this in the dark & gritty snow white thread, two upcoming movies AND the new "once upon a time" show portray snow white as this wood-dwelling badass with weapons. now, i have faith in pixar to do this well, but everyone else needs to starting mixing it up a little imo

― what the fuck does a horse know about the hero's journey anyway (reddening), Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

otm

I'd be curious to see how this turns out btw - so many of the best pixar movies are very unconventional stories told in ways that really take advantage of the computer animation medium. in short, films that would never, ever work as live action films. this one it seems could probably be made as a live-action for 1/10 the cost.

Thus far I've thought "The Incredibles" was the only Pixar movie that could be made live action with really barely any changes. That was my only disappointment with that one.

Of course by "live action" in that case you mean "real human actors in CG robots, superpowers, airplanes, and volcanos"

yeah tbh i am not even really a pixar fan (though i like the ones everyone likes), and i have cranky indefensible old man beef over cg pretty much deading cel animation and yadda yadda, but i would actually prefer to see a lot of these cgi sfx spectaculars be totally animated in a pixar style.

getting a very vague "pixar's miyazaki fandom comes to the fore with this one" vibe off this trailer, but maybe that's just because of a.) the landscape shots and b.) the fact that it looks like more of a traditional adventure flick with a plucky heroine.

well between the character designs (which display a very overt miyazaki influence) and their stated intention to tell a story 'darker and more mature in tone' i think yr probably on the right track

http://i.imgur.com/SmEyz.jpg

i would actually prefer to see a lot of these cgi sfx spectaculars be totally animated in a pixar style.

agree w/this, and

Thus far I've thought "The Incredibles" was the only Pixar movie that could be made live action with really barely any changes. That was my only disappointment with that one.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

dont really get this! art direction, character design, visual storytelling all would be diminished by a live action treatment... its a cartoon through and through!

i hope the theme song of monster university is a version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XqCQ6PpRdI

Thus far I've thought "The Incredibles" was the only Pixar movie that could be made live action with really barely any changes. That was my only disappointment with that one.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

dont really get this! art direction, character design, visual storytelling all would be diminished by a live action treatment... its a cartoon through and through!

― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:35 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya i totally agree - what a weird thing to be disappointed by

A whole bunch of new images!
http://disney.go.com/brave/#/characters/

<3 "Lord Macintosh"

Big Macintosh > Lord Macintosh

Between Shrek and every other Mike Myers endeavor, kind of Scottish accented out (sorry, Scots!). But this looks great and I can't wait to bring my daughters, even though I have a hunch the trailers gives everything away (monster is the bear, bear has cubs, bear not so bad after all, we all learn something).

we learn the bear likes the taste of bravado-filled redheads

The Brave and the Bold (BBQ Sauce)

Watch the first scene from Pixar's BRAVE now. (Deleted hyperbolic io9.com exclamation point.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmc2GzWtSE

There's an article in this week's Time magazine that gives a little insight into the directors and people working on it:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2107515,00.html

(although the beginning bit about how it's a total 12-year-old-boy environment doesn't really ring true and seems to be just there for the narrative they decided on for the piece)

paywalled article, I fear.

Love the character design, and that clip is ace. Pretty stoked for this now.

Watch the much better Japanese trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8zzSqWUmlts#!

http://io9.com/5899668/weve-seen-the-first-30-minutes-of-pixars-brave

That said this part really caught my eye:

Aside from the texture, the characters, and that hair, the thing you'll be talking about most when you leave the theater? La Luna, the short film that will play before Brave. We did see a final cut of La Luna, and nothing has ever made me feel so profoundly that I was watching an Italo Calvino story brought to life. I can't wait to see it again in June.

Hell yes to that!

Taking the marketing a little too far there, John:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/26/business/DISNEY/DISNEY-popup.jpg

What? No such thing. More Scottish snare.

The way Pixar has handled this movie is very shady, imo: http://www.themarysue.com/brenda-chapman-discusses-brave/

http://www.disney.co.uk/brave/images/video_thumbnail1.jpg

yeah, this got our Amber's attention..

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28000000/Princess-Merida-disney-females-28011547-480-254.jpg

The way Pixar has handled this movie is very shady, imo: http://www.themarysue.com/brenda-chapman-discusses-brave/

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:09 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

This doesn't actually tell us anything though

Yeah there's nothing new in there.

I am just saying I'm dubious.

Andrew: the point is that Disney very much intended her to be "another Disney Princess" and would certainly have pigeonholed her that way had there not been sufficient public backlash to point to diminished returns on that marketing plan

instead we get "I AM STRONG AND I'M A PRINCESS" which makes it pretty clear that Diz knows they have an image problem with this stuff so Meridia is gonna get called on to do damage control and maybe see if there's folks willing to buy into that message.

Well if you want to separate out intentions, then Disney meant to do that now, and may have meant a to do so a year ago, but Pixar meant to do something else, and succeeded - hence the public backlash.

I don't agree with your 'pretty clear', but that's probably you know pretty clear.

Disney meant to make money on this and whether they make money with good ideas or bad ones doesn't seem to matter to much to them.
Pixar's intent, as I argued at length above, seems notably more watered down than it usually is but that's open to interp.
Public backlash is a delicate thing; the nosejobbed heroine from the princess and the frog was added to the harem as an overidealized vision and there was notably less hue and cry.

Anyways, now there's this:
http://video.disney.com/watch/merida-i-am-a-princess-4dc2af5d4e65d49a9e9eda76
which is hardly a subtle shift of messaging from what they'd been putting out there; this looks like a nike jr. commercial.
good on them for finally recognizing they're dragging a dying stereotype but it's notable that princesses are still fully able bodied and skinny according to that video.

You don't think Disney is aware that the Princess line has an image problem?

I may be misinterpreting - are you saying that Project Merida from the start is an effort from Disney to create a new type of Princess?

no, not at all. i think they tried to fit her into the princess fold, noted the backlash and figured she'd be more helpful (read profitable) as a tonic.