Brave -- Pixar's 2012 release

i hope the theme song of monster university is a version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XqCQ6PpRdI

Thus far I've thought "The Incredibles" was the only Pixar movie that could be made live action with really barely any changes. That was my only disappointment with that one.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

dont really get this! art direction, character design, visual storytelling all would be diminished by a live action treatment... its a cartoon through and through!

― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:35 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya i totally agree - what a weird thing to be disappointed by

A whole bunch of new images!
http://disney.go.com/brave/#/characters/

<3 "Lord Macintosh"

Big Macintosh > Lord Macintosh

Between Shrek and every other Mike Myers endeavor, kind of Scottish accented out (sorry, Scots!). But this looks great and I can't wait to bring my daughters, even though I have a hunch the trailers gives everything away (monster is the bear, bear has cubs, bear not so bad after all, we all learn something).

we learn the bear likes the taste of bravado-filled redheads

The Brave and the Bold (BBQ Sauce)

Watch the first scene from Pixar's BRAVE now. (Deleted hyperbolic io9.com exclamation point.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOmc2GzWtSE

There's an article in this week's Time magazine that gives a little insight into the directors and people working on it:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2107515,00.html

(although the beginning bit about how it's a total 12-year-old-boy environment doesn't really ring true and seems to be just there for the narrative they decided on for the piece)

paywalled article, I fear.

Love the character design, and that clip is ace. Pretty stoked for this now.

Watch the much better Japanese trailer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8zzSqWUmlts#!

http://io9.com/5899668/weve-seen-the-first-30-minutes-of-pixars-brave

That said this part really caught my eye:

Aside from the texture, the characters, and that hair, the thing you'll be talking about most when you leave the theater? La Luna, the short film that will play before Brave. We did see a final cut of La Luna, and nothing has ever made me feel so profoundly that I was watching an Italo Calvino story brought to life. I can't wait to see it again in June.

Hell yes to that!

Taking the marketing a little too far there, John:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/26/business/DISNEY/DISNEY-popup.jpg

What? No such thing. More Scottish snare.

The way Pixar has handled this movie is very shady, imo: http://www.themarysue.com/brenda-chapman-discusses-brave/

http://www.disney.co.uk/brave/images/video_thumbnail1.jpg

yeah, this got our Amber's attention..

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28000000/Princess-Merida-disney-females-28011547-480-254.jpg

The way Pixar has handled this movie is very shady, imo: http://www.themarysue.com/brenda-chapman-discusses-brave/

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:09 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

This doesn't actually tell us anything though

Yeah there's nothing new in there.

I am just saying I'm dubious.

About what, exactly? Just wondering as I am kind of close to this movie.

Pixar does not have a great track record with female characters, and then they pull the female director on the project (who came up with the concept) under suspicious circumstances. And I'm sure they'll be promoting it will a lot of blah blah blah female empowerment when they don't practice what they preach.

Pixar does not have a great track record with female characters

then they pull the female director on the project (who came up with the concept) under suspicious circumstances

I'm trying to understand what you think is suspicious about the circumstances!

well they're suspicious because they're opaque

a lot of people were pretty disappointed when she was taken off the project, but none of the details are public

But surely that's to be expected for any big company. Speculation when you don't have information either way is not particularly helpful (posts that summarise ILX etc)

yeah i mean im reserving judgement. but i get why people are disappointed

Not a very positive review. This part is leaping out at me:

So far, so good, if nothing particularly original: It's a standard story about a tomboy princess who lusts for a quest of her own, a striving for freedom and independence, with some Stonehenge-type structures thrown in to give the movie some mystical resonance. You're fully expecting a full-throated action adventure in the second half of the movie, as Merida fights like her father while learning that her mother has a few lessons to teach as well.

That is not what happens. I am hesitant to give away the movie's big plot twist halfway through, but suffice it to say, when it happens, it's a needle-off-the-record moment that sends the movie careening off in an entirely different, much dumber direction. It signals that the movie is about to go silly on us, and not in a "Look, I'm Woody, howdy howdy howdy" fun silly direction. The mystery and potential scope of the first half is just sent flying off the back of the truck, and the movie becomes an odd mix of slapstick and fairy-tale flimsiness, an utterly conventional tale of derring-do that keeps bumping into the lane of the faintly ridiculous. The movie's second half is a weirdly aimless slog, as if it forget all the threads it set up in the first half. If I didn't know it was animated, I'd have thought they had to bring all the cast together for some last-minute emergency reshoots.

I have some guesses as to what this involves based on the trailers.

yeah, it seems fairly obvious

If you watch enough kids shows, the toy commercials have some pretty big spoilers so I already know the twist.

Some of the promo images for this are just teal_and_orange.xls to the fkin max

neg reviews oddly making me anticipate this quite a bit where i wasn't at all before

This was not the story that I was expecting or hoping for. Without giving anything away, bears figure prominently into this, more so than I would have liked. And I'm a fan of bears.
-Mark Ellis, """""Schmoes Know"""""

i mean the title was originally "the bear and the bow" so it seems like this is more a advertising-related problem

Reviews on this one are starting to rival Cars 2.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/critics-notebook-has-pixar-gone-the-way-of-the-simpsons

"All good things must come to an end."

hard left turn into batshit during 2nd act-- involves bears-- I'm intrigued!

6 or 7 bear tops.

bear say hi to me

Ha, forgot about the real thread. I had posted on the "Up" thread, too, that this one seems to meet a derailing digression mid-movie. Which is a shame, because the images released so far in clips and whatnot look gorgeous.

Would be interested to great your plot predictions! Although as usual, the 'art of' book probably gives things away. I don't get why they release these so early

Or maybe you could just watch http://www.cartoonbrew.com/cgi/meet-indias-answer-to-brave-called-kiara-the-brave.html

XP *to HEAR

the bear and the bow is a better title than brave, which they had stuck with it. I have a hard time believing this movie is bad at all. will see it.

i was a lot more excited about this when it was called the bear and the bow!

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/06/20/merida_in_brave_and_the_fiery_redhead_trope_why_does_hollywood_think_all_women_with_red_hair_are_the_same_.html

Brave Passes the “Fiery Redhead” Stereotype to a New Generation
By L.V. Anderson | Posted Wednesday, June 20, 2012, at 8:38 AM ET

this movie was gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous to look at, but there was a distinct whiff of focus-group throughout. they leaned on madcap comedy/slapstick very hard, i fear in an effort to give boys something to watch in a "girl" movie, but it was still very fun and funny and the audience i was in laughed a lot.

as for the plot -- it did feel like they started out telling one very traditional kind of story, and then they swerved and did another, different kind of very traditional story, and in doing so it gave both halves less punch and power. the beginning of the movie sets up the various ways in which merida has non-traditional power, like her athleticism and weapons skills etc, but those don't really factor into the resolution of the story. the original title of "the bear and the bow" made me think of some kind of quest movie, where merida needs to use her misunderstood skills to save the day, but really "the bear" and "the bow" are more like symbols representing the two main characters. the bow is more a representation of who merida is. it's interesting, but it wasn't what i expected, and it wasn't what the first half of the movie kind of set you up to believe.

but (SPOILER) she doesn't fall in love with any guy in the end, so huzzah for that, anyway.

This is really good. The criticism above that says the plot twist is a needle off the record moment that sends it into a dumb direction is completely, totally wrong.

So many  reviews say that it doesnt conform to the expectation the trailer sets up - for me if this happens in a movie it is nearly always a very good thing. I like to be surprised and it's quite rare these days that a trailer is made that deliberately doesn't tell the whole story.

yes exactly.

Yeah, this was pretty good, not top-tier Pixar like the Toy Story movies or Wall-E, but perfectly enjoyable. (i.e., not Cars.)