― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I will be in Glasgow on the 17th/18th Nov, but I may not be up for drinks, as I need to see my friend and her little girl who's in Yorkhill after reacting very badly to a virus which resulted in brain damage :0( If my friend doesn't want to go out on the friday night I'd be up for some company in the pub. I'll let you know when my friend gets back to me.
― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I am not sure about the Clyde waterfront at all - myself and Madchen were at the SECC once and we walked over the bridge to Pacific Quay and I turned round and, apart from the university tower poking out over the top of a building behind us, I didn't feel like I was in Glasgow at all - so much has changed since I moved here 15 years ago. I am somewhat not fond of things changing.
I just thought, for someone who hasn't been in Glasgow for over a decade, it was a good way to get a sense of what has changed.
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Vicky, that sounds really nasty. Hope she's OK. And yes, let us know if you are going to be free then.
Good things to do in Glasgow include the Kelvingrove, which has recently re-opened after a multi£££ refurb, the transport museum and sausage suppers (although you get better chips in Ayrshire).
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I am somewhat not fond of things changing
you're on to plums in this day and age, then, aren'tcha? :p
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Seeing the pope in Bellahouston Park. I was young and needed to piss twice an hour. It was a long walk to the park, though not an interesting one, then.
2) Getting the train there with schoolfriends to shop for clothes/records. My understanding of Glasgow was how to get from the train station to the shops and back again. The back-again bit usually involved being set upon at the station by casuals to whom I would donate clothes/records/leftover money.
3) Later, but not much later, getting the bus/train there from Edinburgh to attend certain gigs, and staying on the floors of strangers/obnoxious penpals, usually via taxi rides to districts I could not name now nor then & being sent in the right direction somehow in the morning to the bus/train station.
I know less about Glasgow, which I have visited a dozen times at least, than many places I have been to once, or never. I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like. I will be there, I think, during the first week of December - does anything interesting happen then, besides that?
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 2 November 2006 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/musicscotland/bbcsso/features/wired2.shtml
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 2 November 2006 08:20 (seventeen years ago) link
14th Nov - ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE @ Mono17th Nov - MV+EE MEDICINE SHOW @ Captain's Rest28th Nov - BARDO POND/JACKIE-O MOTHERFUCKER @ Mono2nd Dec - THE SKATERS @ Captain's Rest
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 2 November 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I like mild surprises, I suppose, and some people. sorry
my considered opinion on the "clyde waterfront" is that it is not a thing. it is also v long & expensive, a secret, overconfident, a commitment, a responsibility, by the river, out-of-date, new, crowded & crowding, disconnected & disconnecting, unrealistic & I'm not sure if/when/where it ever wouldn't be, conclusively inconclusive/inconclusively conclusive, not what I want, now, and where?
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 2 November 2006 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I suppose I would like people who know what they're talking about to say what pubs, cafes, buildings and streets they actually like.
i have no idea what i'm talking about. does anyone? for what it's worth: i like mono, sleazy's, the station bar and the pot still; i like the canton express, amalfi, cafe hula and that place round the corner from mono whose name escapes me; having been to london for the weekend, i like the fact that glasgow is of a size where you can actually enjoy it rather than feel you're constantly missing out.
i dunno: i've been here 10 years and i'm still exploring. best way, surely?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link
crosspost
― ONIMO's pet donkey jacket potato (GerryNemo), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:02 (seventeen years ago) link
:-)
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 2 November 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link
I remember the name Bon Accord but I do not remember where it is. I don't think it was very indie.
The waterfront area was always a bit disconnected/disconnecting though, except when it were all shipyards (I imagine). For instance, if you go to a concert there, you have to walk across a huge empty car park afterwards, which feels very exposed, in contrats to the carefully choreographed pseudo-intimacy of the concert experience.
I hope your friend's little girl is OK, Vicky.
I would like to work for the BBC there. Surely the whole point of working for the BBC to have access to the BBC canteen. I have reason to believe it is a source of hilarity.
Have they vacated the place by the Botanics?
I find the necropolis quite disconnecting too. In fact, a lot of places in Glasgow are disconnecting, or were.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link
the SECC or whatever they call it is really rubbish, yes
the bon accord is on st. george's road, south of the mitchell library, near a harley davidson shop, I think
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Ward, i'm going to the SSO thing on sat.
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link
the rogers sisters are playing on tuesday at some place called ABC 2, you should all go because they are great!!
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link
That SSO thing looks awesome.
ABC and ABC2 have marvellously well-stocked bars for gig venues.
I forgot to pass on good wishes for Vicky's friend's daughter. And, yes, I should be available to spend some time with you on the Friday should you so wish.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link
we were discussing this, a wee while ago. the concept
cookie & cozen & anna all remembered diff brands, I think, and we thought it must have been local stuff
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― stet (stet), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― ONIMO's losing the plot (GerryNemo), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― treefell (treefell), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 2 November 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 2 November 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
go somewhere else and talk you attention seeking fucks!!!
what's up with people?
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Worst I can remember was a certain editor's going away bash. He'd asked Stuart Murdch and Stevie Jacksn along to do an acoustic set. Right through practically the entire assembled shower of hacks talked, loudly, as if there was nobody there. They walked off in the middle of the second song.
― stet (stet), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link
They do a buffet on a Tuesday night and also a dish with chilli, tequila and lime mussels.
I'm keen to try.
― Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link
In the mythical 80s there were groups of people who would talk through all the concerts in Glasgow. I was a bit taken aback at the time, but then I was an anti-social misery guts and they were probably having a better time than me, and it was usually loud enough to drown them out.
Of course, if my plan to make everyone do a stint at teaching insterad of national service were taken up by the governemnt, all performers would be able to shut everyone up with a withering glance or a few well-chosen nuggets of sarcasm.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link
that's funny. the way i remember it, everybody was happily chatting and these two tools with a guitar turned up and got pissy that nobody was showering them with adulation ;)
put it this way: colin the copy kid's band got a fuck of a sight more respect, and there might have been a reason for that.
and come on, apples and oranges: jazza's leaving do was a party which had the added bonus of a couple of bands playing. nobody came to see the bands; i think only 10 people in the entire room gave an iota of a fuck about two blokes from belle and sebastian playing a set. but if this was an actual gig and people had actually come especially to see them then yes, it's STFU-you-wankers time.
my overriding memory of that - and this comes from speaking to jackson later - is of two prima donnas thinking they should be the main attraction at someone else's party and getting uppity when they realised that, actually, a lot of people couldn't give a toss about them.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link
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― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link