A Question on Shrooms and their Effects

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OTOH, King Crimson sound incrediby comical.

I must be permanently stoned, because this is always my experience when listening to KC.

insert 2012 appropriate display name here (snoball), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

I would've thought you imagine it.

you would say that. I bet you would also say that ingestors of these fungi are not really able to see how the world around them is continuously oozing and pulsating but are merely imagining that it does so.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

did anyone mention that classic mckenna stoner theory about hunter gatherers and psychedelics, heightened senses, fairly low doses...

i dunno. but i dig the same effect staring at my leg hair. growin, wavin.

dylannn, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.springerlink.com/content/rg4606210r217486/

dylannn, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

been thinking about looking into microdosing as opposed to ADHD / depression meds; anybody familiar with this process?
https://www.vice.com/read/microdosing-psilocybin-depression-184

also maybe deindex thread?

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 13 June 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link

I haven't heard anything about this, but I do know that there's been some research in and experimentation with psychedelics as treatment options for various mental health things.

I don't know how I never saw the glaringly-obvious signs of a fellow ADD-er before, forks!

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 June 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

lol, well some OCD, some ADD, some depression but I'm high functioning so the main person who bears the brunt of it is my significant other.
like i didn't sleep last night for no definable reason. i know a guy with a similar set of manneristic dysfunctions who swears by microdosing psilocybin and my past stays in smurftown have been fairly positive as long as set and setting were respected. so i'm game but i don't really have the proper social connections to find a provider.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 13 June 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

So I have some opinions now.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 29 July 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

aaaaaaannnnnnd....?

(asking for a friend obv)

DORNALDO TROOMPS for PRESIDETN (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

waiting for a deindex request to go thru...

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 29 July 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Mushrooms are the best because they're so dose-dependent. Never went full-on multiple hits of acid-level trip with them but for months around 19-20 a few of my friends and I would eat a button or two and sit around laughing and watching the walls breathe, occasionally step up to higher doses for more visuals but I cherish the light doses.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 29 July 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

I don't have nearly as many fond memories of acid but that was always multiple doses of liquid so maybe a single dose would have been lighter and more manageable. Still leaning toward mushrooms being the best.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 29 July 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

recommended - steep in boiling water for a while then mix w strongly flavored tea. did this last weekend and walked to nearby beach on lake mi to witness a pretty amazing electrical storm near the horizon. really good stuff

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 29 July 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

occasionally also good at higher doses, pairs well with muted eps of cowboy bebop, blankets, and music.

the day after isnt always great though, sometimes a mild to moderate hangover effect

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Friday, 29 July 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

so a very good friend of mind has been microdosing for the past ten months now. questions you'd like me to pass her way?

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

whats the 'deliverable' for a microdose of this stuff? like a pill? eyedrop? tincture?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

What was the schedule? Any difficulties (mental or physical) on dosing days?

JoeStork, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

how many fingers am I holding up

briscall stool chart (wins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

xp - A coffee grinder, capsules and a scale that gets down to tenth of a gram accuracy works for microdosing mushrooms.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

responses from her:

"Microdosing" per se did not impact me as advertised so I'm taking a bit above and beyond on a daily basis than I suppose meets that description. That amounts to roughly a dried cap and a stem per day or the equivalent of half a tobacco chew. I should probably be more specific with my measuring but an ad hoc approach is getting the job done, though I am occasionally a little under-or over-medicated depending on the vagaries of chemical concentrations in the specific fungus of the day. In any case, that amount is enough where I have emotional and physical changes but generally avoid visuals or inability to cope with life. I would not necessarily recommend this dosage level or delivery method for anyone else but, again, it's working for me and I'm coming up on my first full year of this experiment.

You had asked about benefits or difficulties. The benefits are manifold: I feel a general decrease in anxiety, higher degrees of empathy and patience. I can release problems and ideas that used to uncomfortably obsess me. I've had access to my emotional self in a new way. I cry more often and it comes more easily. I feel more in touch with my body somehow and that has translated into eating less (as my body is clearer about when it feels full) and exercising much more. I've lost about fifteen pounds in the past ten years and I would absolutely attribute that to the fungus. The experience of art and music are somewhat elevated. Social situations are less taxing. I've been coordinating use of the drug under the eye of my partner and, though she was uncomfortable with the idea initially, she rapidly has come to appreciate me in this constant state of low-grade high. She will often remind me to take my mushrooms in the morning.

The downsides that I can name are limited but real. Even in very small dosages, it's a stomach irritant and can make me queasy. I've probably thrown up three times since starting this regiment. I've started mixing my dose directly in with food and chasing it with candied ginger and that tends to do the trick. The other issues are more metaphysical. The fungus clarifies your life to a certain degree and there are times when having your life clarified is difficult both emotionally and practically. It does not fix everything. It only provides a fresh lens. So when problems emerge, it can be very hard to have this perspective on. Learning to better deal with it has been part of the challenge.

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link

does she ever have to drive as part of her work commute, if she has one? assuming no, or that she doses once at work

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link

Most accounts I've seen (generally LSD/1p-LSD microdosing) have described a 1x/3-4 days schedule, did your friend ever try this? Has she taken days off and noticed increased anxiety or other negative effects?

JoeStork, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:00 (seven years ago) link

microdosing - a way for tech nerds to ruin another cool thing and make it not fun.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

she lives in NYC and doesn't have a car, so i don't think driving is part of the conversation. I'll ask on off days.

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

I don't drive at all but wouldn't hesitate to do so while on this medication. I've done many other things that require a great deal more focus and exertion without any issue. Like dealing with the New York subway system.

Days off do tend to come with increased stress and anxiety. I make an effort not to take days off.

Taking the subway absolutely does not require more focus and exertion than driving.

Treeship, Monday, 3 July 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

wrote back the day of the "state of emergency" announcement; i think she was being arch.

ah

Treeship, Monday, 3 July 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Realise this is specifically a shrooms thread, but anyone hear microcode regularly for depression or anxiety (not just shrooms – I guess ket is a common macrodosing drug now?). I've got a friend – an actual friend – who wants to find out more, but she's at the information gathering stage, so I thought I'd ask here!

Fizzles, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link

i have two friends who microdose LSD on the regular, usually ever 2-3 days. they both seem to swear by it. one of these friends helped to make this the worst year of my life, though, and is a big reason that i'm getting the fuck out of missouri and will never come back. However, i'm the one who is unshakably depressed, while they seem to do horrible things to me with almost no reaction or feelings of remorse, so what the fuck do i know

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

that was absolutely the worst anecdotal info i could give you -- just ignore it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

hey no problem. i’m not going to be judging on the type of response - just curious on people’s experience. i think that counts!

Fizzles, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

Got an ad for this place today on Twitter - do they actually have shrooms in them? Who knows? Shipping a psychedelic in the clear seems awfully brave no matter how much they call it a donation.

https://jennyjill.com/oakland-delivery

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 26 August 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

I microdose (and 1/4 and 1/2-dose) mushrooms or acid semi-regularly and it does help me appreciate life a bit more while I'm doing it (absolutely doesn’t make me any more productive or whatever the silicon valley people use it for). it hasn't cured my mental problems but it can help me put them in perspective. for some people it may have a more radical effect or none at all. but it should be safe to try for almost anyone and I would recommend it. idk how differently it affects people who have vs people who haven't done full doses before though

Left, Friday, 26 August 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

xp have small quantities been decriminalised (de facto or othereisr) in parts of the US? if not it might be a gamble if it's not a scam but I do seem to remember a time when this stuff was fairly openly advertised online (not just dark web), presumably before authorities started noticing or caring as much

Left, Friday, 26 August 2022 09:28 (one year ago) link

xp to be clear I recommend trying it - not continuing if it doesn't help or makes things worse- but at microdose levels nothing can go terribly wrong I'm pretty sure (although if it has done for some people I'd like to know)

Left, Friday, 26 August 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link

xp *otherwise dammit

Left, Friday, 26 August 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link

I know this isn't the vibes thread but I'm sorry this year has sucked for you Karl and I hope things look up

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 26 August 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

Thanks Left!

Fizzles, Friday, 26 August 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

I guess ket is a common macrodosing drug now?

I’ve heard this

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

k-holes not particularly conducive to doing much of anything afaict

Left, Saturday, 27 August 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link


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