John Harris C/D

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1. Washed-up music hack with nothing to say about music any more looking to make a living for the next 40 years at the expense of better writers who don't happen to be shagging ***** ******.

2. Face and hair of a yokel simpleton.

3. "Whatever, Paul."

That'll do for a start.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Has he got a famous girlfriend? Cor. I imagined he would be married with two very nice children whose haircuts are modelled on his own.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i read that review of 'words and music' in new statesman. it was personal, because morley had said every nme hack after him was a geography teacher or something. now, i'll look to morley to talk about music pre-1985, but this clinging on to the Great Heritage of Rock Writers like morley is parsons-esque and lame. i liked 'select', i think john harris is alright with me. and he was otm in that review. 'words and music' does have a lot of pretentious bollocks in it.

as to

1. Washed-up music hack with nothing to say about music any more looking to make a living for the next 40 years at the expense of better writers who don't happen to be shagging ***** ******.

i dunno who he's shagging but the point is jh isn't writing much about music now -- he doesn't claim to be on the cutting edge at any rate, and has branched out to write about other things. he's not bad at it since he manages to avoid the westminster village gatekeeper pose adopted by almost every other commentator.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrong shagging John, Marcello - Mulv3y shags *****.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

pretentious bollocks > john harris in the same way that l'avventura > cannon and ball are the boys in blue

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

You see, I knew people in Hay-on-Wye didn't "shag" anybody.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

m***** and ***** have been together years and have a kid together and are lovely.

foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

there's pretentiuous and pretentious; people who routinely call anything vaguely intellectual 'pretentious' are all wrong; at the same time, champions of pretention use the existence of these obvious philistines to justify any amount of pseudery. 'words and music' is about 1 part insight to 4 parts pretention.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I really like *****.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

me too! and *****'s really nice too, despite his bad rep.

foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be nice to look back and think that the great powerhouses of early 20th Century music criticism all came out of the same Oxford college in the early nineties. John Harris, Tom Ewing, Molloy Woodcraft...(I kind of falls down near the end there.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link

whassat, queens?

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 10:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I always think of Wadham as the college with the writers/novelists in it (*****, H@r1 K, J1m Fl1nt).

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

miller you'll never write anything as good as words and music in your life so cease the jealous hating.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and by ***** ******, i didn't mean that ***** ******.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Also I know his cousin

the scottish one? how the devil is she? not seen her in aeons...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

bollocks, dude, my fkn email footer is better than 'wordsa and music'

haha, i was at wadham.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I always think of Wadham as the college with the writers/novelists in it (*****, H@r1 K, J1m Fl1nt).
-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), September 26th, 2005.

dunno who these people are, though.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

stop pretending to be an american, henry, it ill behoves your gravitas.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

***** ******

*** ****!

(***)

the *fox, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

only people who are in words and music are allowed to slag it off.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

the scottish one? how the devil is she? not seen her in aeons...

M1r14M? Haven't seen her in forever either. Isn't she in London now? If you ever bump into her, tell her I said hi.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, the college I went to in the US sent its 'junior-year' students to Wadham.

xpost Hari mentioned above appears on Late Review often enough, and is SOUND.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

[when have i tried to be american?!?!?!?!?]

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

[or attempted gravitas?]

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

bollocks, dude, my fkn email footer is better than 'wordsa and music'

-- N_RQ (bl0cke...), September 26th, 2005.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

M1r14M? Haven't seen her in forever either. Isn't she in London now? If you ever bump into her, tell her I said hi.

as far as i know she's been in london for years, like since 1999 or so. used to bump into her at loads of gigs, but not for ages now. think she works for un1v3rs4l or someone in the catalogue dept.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

frank, how did you come to rock so fuckin' hard?

-- N_RQ (bl0cke...), September 16th, 2005 2:45 AM.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

bollocks, my good man, 'w & m' is still a turgid, often ill-informed, read.

xpost hahaha oh noes

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:14 (eighteen years ago) link

when i came back from the states having spent six weeks there as a kid everyone teased me for ages about my 'american accent'.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

are you sure you're not mixing up "words and music" with "henry k miller"'s time out film reviews lol

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

OWND

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

fuckin' = US/english

fucken = US/everett true

foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

fuck = UK/hermione lee

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

only people who are in words and music are allowed to slag it off.
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), September 26th, 2005.

But ILX is in WaM isn't it? Therefore....

Masked Gazza, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to go to loads of gigs up here with her, due to John getting her +1 (usually me) on guest lists. We were the Glasgow ligerati in the Britpop years (1994-ish until she moved to London to work for S0ny). Oh happy days...

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

No, but I am in Words And Music (p 120). Tom is in it twice, so he's also allowed to slag it off.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

So Marcello, those records that you are not on that you criticise?
WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE!!!!

Pete (Pete), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I got as far as page 120. And I LIKE lists...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I HAVE THE RIGHTS OF MAN!!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not jealous hating Words and Music. I haven't read it. I don't think I've said anything about it, at least not lately. Neither have I given the impression that I think I can write anything better.

The only thing I am jealous of is John Harris's living in Hay-on-Wye because I imagine it is a quiet place to get one's typing done, and you lot for knowing who ***** ******* is.

I am in Young and Foolish. Don't know the page number off the top of my head, but I like to think it is a low point in that book from most readers' point of view.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, I was talking to Mr H K Miller aka NRQ.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh right, sorry. As you were.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you a Miller, NRQ?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

[yeah, in fairness i haven't read all of 'words and music', but if marcello may not prefer the knowledge that i'm gonna drop, words-style, that's his loss, yo. i will deliberately leave him out of the text, just in case.]

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a famous name, i am mentioned in many books.

N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

N_RQ - repeat after me - 'i will deliberately leave him out of the fucken text'

'i would like to feed your fucken fingertips to the fucken wolverines'

[falls dead to the fucken floor, clutching fucken chest]

foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

NRQ, are you sure you're not mixing you up with the author henry miller?

Sexus Nexus Innit (nostudium), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.martinwildig.com/pictures/trmptn.jpg

N_RQ, yesterday

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

He should be supporting Aunt Sally for President hyuk hyuk

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/dec/22/christmas-shopping

Harris at a motorway service station

the pinefox, Monday, 22 December 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8330633.stm

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

He is a paid-up fan of bands it took me until I was 30 to even discover

This after opening two pars talking about how the wee lad hasn’t had to spend any money to hear this music, in contrast to Harris’ five-figure spend?

RAPTOBER (sic), Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

A good example: though I've always heard plenty of talk about the utter awfulness of such infamous albums as Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music (a double album of guitar feedback and white noise) or Deep Purple's Concerto For Group And Orchestra (don't ask), I can now listen to them for nothing, and have an opinion of my own.

They're both terrible, incidentally, but that isn't the point. What really matters is the fact that I can so easily tune in - and what that says about a new world of completely risk-free listening.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Who do you want to investigate today: TV On The Radio or Crosby, Stills and Nash? Do you fancy losing yourself in the brilliant first album by Florence And The Machine, or deriving no end of entertainment from how awful The Rolling Stones got in the 1980s? Little Richard or La Roux? White Lies or Black Sabbath?

As one of my music press colleagues use to say, there's no longer any past - just an endless present.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

you post links and quotes don't you

conrad, Sunday, 1 November 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

no

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 2 November 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

He's not the John Harris who runs The People's United Community, is he? They're behaving like nutters in Birmingham.

James Mitchell, Monday, 2 November 2009 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Ugh his "plight of a Conservative" columns are the absolute worst. Like of all the people who deserve sympathy in the country at this moment, it's certainly not paternalistic grandees or garden variety Home Counties xenophobes.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 April 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link

can understand why Harris would be down with one nation Tories tbh

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 April 2013 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

John Harris

Don't dismiss public fears about migration as bigotry

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

oh fuck him and fuck everyone who enables him and REALLY fuck every bigoted middle england idiot he's talking about

it's not even about ukip and the daily mail at this point, it drives me mad that so-called liberals tie themselves in such rhetorical knots to prove that ~ordinary people are not racist bigots

when they REALLY REALLY ARE, more than their comedy mouthpieces in the national press and politics could ever dream of being. paul dacre and nigel farage are tolerant lefties compared w/your average somerset villager

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Perhaps those who reduce people’s worries and fears to mere bigotry should go back to first principles, and consider whether, in such laissez-faire conditions, free movement has been of most benefit to capital or labour. They might also think about the dread spectacle of people from upscale London postcodes passing judgment on people who experience large-scale migration as something real.

everything, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

lol

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

can't understand how a guy who started out repping for Britpop and New Labour ended up being a reactionary apologist for oh hang on

Chimp Arsons, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link

lol restricting movement of labour while capital continues to move freely and at speed wd sure be a win for working ppl everywhere

intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

Capital migration would be fine if it were taxed properly; labour migrants pay tax wherever they happen to land.

I'm so *tired* of all this pursuit of the bigot vote; its effect on everyday life is absolutely toxic. I'd like to quarantine UKIP to whatever 19th hole hell from whence they came. Politicians need to stop pandering to bigots who want A Discussion About Immigration. There could be full employment with a Living Wage and these people would still want to Discuss Immigration.

My central London postcode has rich and poor people in it, from every country you can think of, living mostly happy lives alongside one another. People in upscale (I hate the word 'upscale' FTR) London postcodes are fine with migration and foreigner neighbours as long as a) their kids get places at the same fee-paying schools they went to and b) it's not rich Russians moving in, who make Good Help so Difficult to Find These Days because they're gazumping the available nannies and housekeepers.

resting rich face (suzy), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link

He is so hideous, the sooner he fucking dies the better.

xelab, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link


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