Brit Tabloids - Why?

Tabloid Independent, now there is an idea.... Broadsheets of course are full of endless so called analysis which keep them going. There really is only so much news as BBC News 24 have found out to their cost.

We had a big scary meeting with my editor, our managing editor, their chief sub and their editor. During the meeting my flies came undone and... hold on I think I've told this story.

Very suspicous of metro because, as already pointed out, stories come from the Mail. London could do with a citywide daily to go up against the standard, the manchester evening news would be a good model. Could do with some views from the left in the evening. However the standard seems mainly to be bought by commuters from the more tory home counties. Does anyone who lives in london proper buy it? Actualy to be fair I used to buy it now and then on the way home from work and it used to make me very irate.

1. its stories seem to come from a general news source / feeding off anything they can find, judging from the resemblance of their stories and the Guardian's.

2. The 60-second interviews are unusually good for what they are. They did LLOYD COLE only last month! LLOYD COLE!!!!!

3. And the letters in the Metro are surprising - they seem to be dominated by sarcastic progressives.

I'd be interested how the metro thing works

Any newspaper which gave us the story of the fingerknob is a great newspaper in my book (and yet no other paper picked it up. Basically a bloke in Georgia had his knob lopped off so they replaced it with one of his fingers - fitting urinary tract and spunk canal down where the bone would have been. His girlfriend was exceptionally pleased apparently...)

I hate the Mail but do not read it. I think what people mean is they hate the mentality of it and most people who read it seem to agree with it in a way that is not necessarily true of the Sun (i.e the allegedly ironiic reading of it).

Ed's point about Evening Standard readers: of course it has an editor who barely spends *any time at all* in London. No wonder it's a travesty of the paper London deserves.

Daily Mail headline: (somethingsomething) boost for Kerry
Telegraph: Bush prepare victory speech (or something)
Independant: (Bush blah blah Kerry etc.)

The Sun: Kat Has Her Kitten!! - Eastenders star Jessie Wallace (Kat) gives birth to baby girl, and named her Tallulah Lilac.

aw.

The Daily Star was great too - TERRORISTS PLOT TO BLOW UP BECKS! - 13 al-qaeda lunatics arrested for plots to blow up the Bernabeu

The Guardian's midi-sized one launches next year, I think.

This is correct. They said they would continue to run both formats as long as it was financially sustainable, or something like that. That was Thursday last week. They announced on the the Sunday that they were to go fully tabloid, or *ahem* compact.

I don't know if it has been mentioned at all here, but the Guardian has announced it will go to European Broadsheet (slightly smaller) in about 2006 (I think this was to do with pressing equipment and availability or suchlike).

The front of the mail vs Independent this morning makes me think (a) I should buy the Indie more (b) I should really insist my mother stops reading the Mail (I have been trying for years).

That Mail front page is beyond depressing.

(Can someone fill me in on this Clarke County thing, I appear to have missed it altogether).

"Family from hell" is an unfortunate thing to put right about that picture. Go Dirty Des!

1. Whenever Bush is told "you have no mandate for this war" he always replies "you forget Tony Blair."

2. Tony Blair being so uncritically and slavishly behind Bush/the war undoubtedly helped to legitimise the whole enterprise and boost Bush's personal ratings in America.

3. Tony Blair is so uncritically and slavishly behind Bush/the war for the same reason he impersonates a Tory Prime Minister the rest of the time - because he is scared that Middle England will boot him out at the next election.

4. And which newspaper is the most stalwart of backbones for "Middle England"? Why, the Daily Mail.

So really it was the Daily Mail wot won it for Bush.

MARCH OF THE MORAL MAJORITY

phew! I thought it was gonna say Kat Slater lost her baby daughter or something!

I disagree with this Marcello - it is pretty much admitted by all quarters that Labour will take the next election. Not necessarily with the comfort of the last (the Lib Dems are aiming at about 80-90 seats, and will probably get quite close), though the key part depends on the Tory performance that doesn't look forthcoming.

Blair's position has now changed - I almost see it that Blair is now more accountable to the Labour party members than to the electorate, mainly as a result of his plan to not stay for a fourth term. The third term is in the bag, and with the majority he will carry the only way for him to be ousted is to lose the Labour party backing. The proximity to Bush may be enough for this in the next few years.

I am actually quite interested to see how Blair and Bush now work. Their motives - neither seeing beyond 2008 most likely - could now adjust somewhat. Both Bush and Blair give a sense of wanting to be legends. I kind of fear where they may go from here, and to who they are accountable.

If you replaced Bush/Iraq with Europe/asylum I would be 100% in agreement with you. The Mail's political influence goes far beyond party politics.

'The Victory of the Moral Majority'

Stop Funding Hate... aka The Daily Mail

.. hit these cunts where it hurts. More of that please.

yeah keep it up

dismantling the tabloid press is pretty much the #1 priority for uk progress right now (aside from yknow education reform, mental health treatment etc)

corbyn should announce stringent press standards reform, he'd probably gain more support than he loses

dismantling the tabloid press is pretty much the #1 priority for uk progress right now

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corbyn should announce stringent press standards reform, he'd probably gain more support than he loses

Hmm.

On the one hand, anyone who speaks out against our red-topped kingmakers will not have a happy political career (though perhaps this can't get any worse than now for Corbyn)

On the other, it's interesting how both sides of the Brexit divide and now the Trump divide blame media misrepresentation: the alt-right's ire for "mainstream media", Trump's remarks on a "rigged press" and angry Brexiteers railing against the MSM while somehow seeing the tabloids as on their side against a conspiracy of metropolitan elites; the anti-Islamic German right's revival of favourite Nazi word "Lügenpresse" (and when I first read it I thought, hmm, yes, useful word for the tabloids, only to look up its history and feel itchy all over), which the internet tells me is now an alt-right buzzword outside Germany too

so maybe people from across the political spectrum could be brought onside, but "moar govt/quango intervention" is going to be hard to sell to the anti-elite and small-govt crowds, and obv the higher-ups know exactly what they're doing with this MSM meme

"So today I had to write abt Jo Cox"
"Ah that sucks man"
"Sucks even harder if you work for the Daily Hail, like me"
"How did you tend to the expectations of yr readership on this very delicate matter?"
"Immigrants, mate, immigrants. And that her death was her own fault."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyBrtDRXcAA78CG.jpg

Bold of the Daily Mail to suggest that anyone concerned about immigrants is now a terror suspect.

can someone straight up firebomb the daily mail

also, hi theresa, i'm deadly serious

OMG, a Turkish person has a byline on that race-baiting - wonder if making someone w/foreign origins write shit about immigrants is the initiation rite at Dacre Towers?

The Mail have spent so much time pandering to repulsive right wing extremists they can't suddenly change tack and condemn one who murders an MP in cold blood, oh no.

How many angry articles have they written about the decline in social housing in the same time period? Just wondering...

If he'd got bedroom taxed or sanctioned out of his home, worrying that the next tenants might be immigrants would be classic fuckwitted legitimate concernism.

The Mail have spent so much time pandering to repulsive right wing extremists they can't suddenly change tack and condemn one who murders an MP in cold blood, oh no.

― calzino, Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:01 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at this point i consider the mail and the sun to be part and parcel of the far right

I don't see any other possible conclusion.

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I've just spent the day at the hospital but that's cheered me right up that, thanks