Thinking about Bey for me is weird, because it turns into thinking about the person I was when I first read him, and into thinking about how the sorts of visions he conjured up don't have a necessary place in the world, and how it felt to realize that.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
i know it sounds totally namby-pamby to be all about PR
haha dude you are talking to the media team of odc i feel u
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
the point about different modes of communication and action being appropriate to different social and political context
i sorta thought i made it implicitly in my shit on movement building, but maybe it was too implicit
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
Any CEO will tell you, you have to control your brand in the marketplace. The USA is, more than anywhere in the world, consumerist and commercialized. The Violent Insurrection brand needs to be split off and developed seperately within the OWS family of brands, like GMC split off from Chevy.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
^ joeks, bro
― Aimless, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
ha, my man:
legbacarrefour Really dont share the faith in "radical transparency" that a lot of occupiers have. Sometimes, I dont wanna have a camera shoved in my face23 minutes ago Favorite Retweet ReplylegbacarrefourI hear "radical transparency" & I hear echoes of "radical self-reliance", the Burning Man ideal of "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"21 minutes ago legbacarrefour Or "radical self-expression" where radicalism gets conflated w/ magical self-actualization of white people20 minutes ago legbacarrefour It seems more like radical transparency is about the self-actualization of people watching livestreams and their avatars than "democracy"6 minutes ago
legbacarrefourI hear "radical transparency" & I hear echoes of "radical self-reliance", the Burning Man ideal of "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps"21 minutes ago
legbacarrefour Or "radical self-expression" where radicalism gets conflated w/ magical self-actualization of white people20 minutes ago
legbacarrefour It seems more like radical transparency is about the self-actualization of people watching livestreams and their avatars than "democracy"6 minutes ago
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
anyone heard this radio show?
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/mike-feder-occupied-territory/
I listened to Mike Feder in the '80s/90s on WBAI/Pacifica, really phenomenal talker and broadcaster.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/17077947/unless-you-want-to-alienate-target-audience-occupy-someplace-else
This is, in fact, an apolitical column. Or anti-political. Whatever it is, it's full of resentment that the Occupy movement would use our passion for the Super Bowl against us, infiltrating something we love so we have to focus on something they hate. And what they hate is the "right to work" legislation passed Wednesday by the Indiana senate, legislation that would make Indiana the first state in the Rust Belt to prohibit labor contracts that require workers to pay union dues.
If you're not into politics, so be it. I'm not here to tell you what "right to work" legislation would mean to Indiana for two reasons: One, I don't know. Two, I don't care. Not here. Not this week. Not at the Super Bowl, the single greatest annual event -- sports or otherwise -- in this country.
gregg doyel is PIG-BITIN' MAD about these darn occupiers ruining the super bowl!
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly can't make heads or tails of the tone of that piece
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
like one second i'm smdh @ a guy that doesn't get it, and the next i'm thinking he's pulling some deep-cover satire
Lots of you, most of you, won't be pleased to have your time wasted Sunday with coverage of the Occupy movement outside Lucas Oil Stadium. Lots of you probably are irritated that I'm wasting your time today, writing about the Occupy movement instead of Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski's ankle or Giants quarterback Eli Manning's legacy.
self-clown??
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
things like that schwartz essay are why ppl become libertarians in college.
would happily read 100 articles from reason magazine i fully disagree with before reading another article that uses terms like "the amerikan way."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha truth bomb
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/01/occupy-oakland-black-panther-roots
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/02/02/416270/nfl-union-super-bowl-protests/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
The union, which encouraged workers to meet with their state representatives in the days before the law passed and organized rallies outside the statehouse Wednesday, will pass out leaflets and pamphlets around Super Bowl village and Lucas Oil Stadium, the site of the game, Harris said.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395592_130339110419914_100003314764100_138427_1009891760_n.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 February 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a thousand times yes. and it's not just the juvenile language, there's a divisive, condescending and simplistic slant to the whole mindset. the product of getting into an intellectual rut and fighting tooth and nail to stay there.
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qQanou_L0gY
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 February 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
would happily read 100 articles from reason magazine i fully disagree with before reading another article that uses terms like "the amerikan way."― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinka thousand times yes. and it's not just the juvenile language, there's a divisive, condescending and simplistic slant to the whole mindset. the product of getting into an intellectual rut and fighting tooth and nail to stay there.― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he's just so fucking uncharitable. you'd think he was the perfect human the way he castigates just about everyone. it's like he wilfully denies the complexity of human motivation.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
it's like he wilfully denies the complexity of human motivation.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, February 3, 2012 4:48 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^ this is what spurned me from radical politics for years
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
pigs
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/02/occupy_oakland_protesters_denied_medication_in_jail/singleton/
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
Even as the Securities and Exchange Commission has stepped up its investigations of Wall Street, the agency has repeatedly allowed the biggest firms to avoid punishments.
here's a DC address that needs occupying.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/business/sec-is-avoiding-tough-sanctions-for-large-banks.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2
― curmudgeon, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
the agency has repeatedly allowed the biggest firms to avoid punishments.
― Aimless, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Its up to Hoos to change the SEC
― curmudgeon, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
I am Hoos. (/spartacus)
― Aimless, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
ILX general fap for May 1st (after whatever)
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 3, 2012 2:32 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There is some nasty behavior in this story, but the angle suggests that it's unusual for inmates (talking about jail, not prison) to be denied medicine for a day or two. The beatings were the awful part.
In my checkered past I've been in jail a couple times and I was denied meds. In New Orleans I had a little visit to the Orleans Parish Prison* (jails are called "parish prisons" in Louisiana) where I met a guy who I'm still friends with. He was HIV + and he went without meds for 2.5 days. He never once got to see a nurse or doctor, and he said guards just didn't respond to his telling them he needed meds.
I was only there for about 18 hours, during which time there was a guy w/ a bleeding head injury who never got to see a doctor. He hollered a lot, and tried talking to a deputy who sat down outside the cell, but the deputy slammed the solid metal door shut in his face.
In the worker's rights org I worked for, arrests were part of the job for some people, and they were always some new kind of terrible (except for one Quaker guy who the jailors apparently fawned over b/c he *looked* like Quaker, w/ the beard actual Quaker hat).
*Orleans Parish Prison = "OPP" which is pretty lol
― garbage corn fan (Je55e), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
just b/c it's not unusual for inmates to be denied medicine doesn't mean it's not awful.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Absolutely agree and nothing I said was meant to suggest otherwise. What led me to post was that the Salon story makes it sound like it is unusual by making it seem newsworthy that some people waited hours or a day for their meds. The horrible thing is that their stories are totally commonplace.
― garbage corn fan (Je55e), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
Just reread my earlier post and it wasn't that clear, sorry.
― garbage corn fan (Je55e), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
ah i see. you are right.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:58 (twelve years ago) link
yo
motherFUCK the police
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/occupy-wall-street-in-dc/2012/01/30/gIQAebz9cQ_gallery.html#photo=14
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/02/occupy-dc-police-raid-camp/
^^^^ thank fuck i got some legitimacy in this headline
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
a dozen of my friends have broken bones and bruised ribs and gashes from barricades and violent induced stampedes and they have no fucking place to sleep and the media is losing their shit that the cops said some shit about a brick
fuck the mother fucking police
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ushered-into-compliance/2012/02/04/gIQAiDvWqQ_graphic.html
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
yo real fucking talk riot cops rolling in on horseback while a helicopter buzzed us with a spotlight and we shielded up was a real "what the fuck is my life" moment
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:52 (twelve years ago) link
they set up two fucking parallel lines
vvv___________________vvvusus^^^___________________^^^
and then started hitting people when we had no place to fo
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link
fuck that
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422110_10150560740193451_535551753_n.jpg
girl on the left is one of my closest friends
fuck the police
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 07:05 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6VmmKrFkaY
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 07:13 (twelve years ago) link
you ok, hoos?
― Clay, Sunday, 5 February 2012 09:27 (twelve years ago) link
sorry hoos. fight on.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
everything hurts, ankle is twisted from when cop pushed me onto and off of a wet bench into the mud, and i have a few scrapes, but at least i have a damn bed.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/423307_10150560739508451_619898450_9018349_973443282_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419929_10150560739908451_619898450_9018357_983379877_n.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
Hey, it's a free country! That is, until it isn't.
― Aimless, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eu28qj9U7Q0
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
i keep having these moments of remembering some flash or another and i can feel my heart rate spike and i want to break something
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link