quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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do parents still bankroll weddings for their kids?? because if they do they are dropping way more than 10k i would think

buzza, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

waht. that chain of logic makes no sense. immigrants don't scrape together $1m so their son can buy a taxi medallion, they're bought by large companies. that has no relevance to whether or not yr average middle class family can make 10k appear.

iatee, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

we should ask David Brooks. I bet he could settle this.

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Hasler and his partners increased the shop's revenue in three years from less than $200,000 to $500,000."

fuckin' wow!

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

"For some reason I don't understand, employers seem to value having long-term employees less than they used to," says Henry Farber, an economist at Princeton. Farber has been documenting the decline in job tenure in papers with titles such as "Is the Company Man an Anachronism?"

I understand! people get lazy and crsnky and end up hating their job and employer and call out sick all the time if they stay in the same job for too long. because lots of jobs are less than thrilling.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

xpost original point was that I don't really think getting $10k in help/investment from family to start a business in and of itself makes you some kind of spoiled non-success success story (completely outside the context of that article, which I couldn't even read), especially since that sort of thing actually does happen among families of modest means.

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

10 grand ain't the end of the world. but the dude also got an investment from a local businessperson. that might have been, like, a hundred grand or more for all we know.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

that's reading a lot into the original post, though - I just said that inspirational stories that start with money from mom and dad are lolsy. But I think you're pretty wrong about middle-class families having $10k in liquid assets to give kids, anyway.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp - also, long-term employees expect to be treated and compensated well. Employers are not fond of those qualities.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah that too. its cheaper to cut people loose and get fresh meat every couple of years.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

there's nothing wrong w/ taking 10k from your family, and it seems like he made pretty admirable use of it regardless. the prob is in the article creating a narrative of career-changing that ties it to success stories who quit their job on a whim to go apprentice in argentina and not...people who were fired. (the last case study is prob the one most relevant to americans today...)

xp

iatee, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

yeah they picked the genius 1% example. not typical by any means. makes for s better story.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

the author seems to be 'on the right side' of the issues, so who knows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anya_Kamenetz

but 'some people work for goldman sachs and *then* they work for google, what a crazy economy' is like "..."

iatee, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

fast company is for people with money. or people who want money. its for a certain kind of person. let's put it that way.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

they try to make tech sexy. and tech money sexy. look at their front page!

http://www.fastcompany.com/files/imagecache/listing_image_rotator/files/610-super-bowl-halftime-beacon-radio-twitter.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

Web Geek On Wire Goes Wild With Milf!

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

carrot top's hair looks less orange than usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

Guys, I read some Fast Company articles I quite liked a few months ago and like their design blog (maybe I should put quotes around "design") so I got a cheapass subscription and now I'm having second thoughts

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

are you... agonizing over it?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link

Ooh, good question

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

also not nyt but lol

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46297528/

iatee, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

5. Be sexy.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

*takes notes*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

11. Be a lady in the street but a freak in the sheets.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

Wall Street men tend to like women who are attractive

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

So, don't let him talk about work but know all about his work so you can talk about it, be sexy but not slutty, be conventionally pretty, don't talk too much, and don't be upset if your date is a total asshole.

Easy breezy!

Also the same as every list of dubious pointers abt how to catch a man.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Samantha :

You forgot to mention that these type of women need to understand that they WILL be cheated upon, with just about everyone the can...just because they have money that they steal from the rest of us and have the time...trust me, I know many bankers in NYC who were partying or with other women while they were telling there wives/girlfirends they were at work, meeting ,etc...if they dont pick up the phone for hours is because they are CHEATING !!!!!!!!

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

or they are the star of Breaking Bad.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

13. Bring cocaine. Lots of cocaine.

valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agro8r4nyGQ

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

dateing douchecanoes in 10 easy steps

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

* dating

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

how does one clean a douchecanoe?

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

you dont clean them, iirc. i think it's like cast iron frying pans, the dirt is part of the "charm"

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

Well-seasoned douchecanoe seeks quiet doormat with just the right amount of sluttiness for LTR

carl agatha, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

*to craigslist!*

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ extravagant gifts

"A solid gold shoehorn?! Oh, Wall Street man! You're the best!"

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

Who care if you're constantly at work or texting on your phone, I got a Tiffany key chain!

A funnier, sunnier (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

TBF, if you're already reading an article called "How to Date a Wall Street Man" isn't that kind of what you're going for?

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

True.

A funnier, sunnier (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

+stock tips

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

I just want to eat at WD-40 all the time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

You should try 50, it's even better ;)

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

I gotta date a higher up wall street banker first though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

u know what they say squeaky wheel gets the

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw I've never actually eaten in WD-50 or probably almost any other restaurant popular with Wall Street Men

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

dayo I thought you said you wanted to eat WD-40 and I was all O_o

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

it's all I can afford, that's why I need to date a wall street man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

protip coat yr mouth and throat w/wd-40 and any food will slide down easy w/o chewing

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

Samantha Daniels owns a bicoastal matchmaking service called Samantha's Table. She is ivy league educated and a former divorce attorney by trade. She is frequently relied upon dating, relationship and romance expert, and is seen regularly on television, in national newspapers and magazines and on radio. She has been a national spokesperson for a number of consumer brands including Crest, Oral B and Febreze. She was also the inspiration for and a producer on the NBC/Darren Star dramedy, Miss Match starring Alicia Silverstone, the show was based on her life story. She is the author of the book, Matchbook: The Diary of a Modern-Day Matchmaker (Simon & Schuster).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link


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