Josh otm; that article has been haunting me a bit.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
The Atlantic, but a really good companion to Lizza's "Obama Memos": http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/obama-explained/8874/
― omar leeettle (Leee), Monday, 13 February 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
That Jane Mayer piece scared the shit outta me.
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
Article on the plagiarist was good, though I found myself wishing it had gone more into the role of the Internet in plagiarism detection. There are so many books on Google Books these days, all searchable to some degree, that modern-day plagiarists are taking a bigger risk than ever.
― jaymc, Friday, February 10, 2012 4:01 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Or maybe that's just taken for granted.
yeah, i assumed that everyone was just googling lines/passages from the dude's book and poems. although it did mention a plagiarism-detection program that is used in academics, i wonder if that works off of a database or just goes through search engines automatically (i presume it's the latter).
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Yeah, me too. At first I thought it was, yeah, another story about evil and powerful right wingers who won't go on the record, but I think the message was bigger than that.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
xp TurnItIn actually attracted some controversy because their ToS give them an unlimited license to use work submitted to the service as part of their corpus for further plagiarism detection, and students were required to use the service in their classes, I think there was a lawsuit.
Anyway technically speaking what TurnItIn probably does when you upload your paper is check a bunch of n-grams (chunks of words a few sentences long) and checks its index for matches. When it finds matches on an improbably long chunk of words, it flags it.
Basically types in random phrases to google but advanced and automatic.
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
imna reverse engineer it and sell a product that can write papers for people
― iatee, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
im gonna sell people chunks of words
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
i will sell them dream words and nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town
― (_()_) (Lamp), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link
that does sound like a pretty good business model
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
at the very least it's better than the groupon business model
― iatee, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
I would not buy a groupon of the groupon business model no
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
someone help me find that piece from a while ago about duels
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I actually read the face transplant story and found it too long, technical stuff got boring after awhile. also if I were blind I wouldn't have that surgery, I prob wouldn't care. I would be much more bummed out by the blindness than not having a face.
― iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
most of my life at this point is just staring at computer screens, having a face is kinda overrated. having eyes v. important.
― iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
its cool to have both imo
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
TurnItIn actually attracted some controversy because their ToS give them an unlimited license to use work submitted to the service as part of their corpus for further plagiarism detection, and students were required to use the service in their classes, I think there was a lawsuit.
It also assigns a percentage (e.g. "20 percent" of paragraph comes from other sources). We use it at the university all the time.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
whats the actionable threshold
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
Depends on the professor. For the class I'm co-teaching now the primary instructor sets the bar at 25 percent.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder how it would work with everyone saying what they think the teacher or editor or publicist wants them to say.
― dow, Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
You get enough people doing that, you're gonna have some innocent--anyway, you're gonna have some convergence.
― dow, Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Finally got the plagiarist issue in late this week, and it turns out that the last fifth of the magazine reprints a bunch of pages from the middle, and upside-down, instead of the actual stuff.
― omar 13337713 (Leee), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
they prob printed it upside down to fool the plagiarism detection software because they copied from the middle of the mag
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
wut you mean all your issues aren't like that?
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
It's called "work and turn".
― dan selzer, Monday, 20 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
this week's provided my new display name (scavenger hunt you guys)
― Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, yeah I just read that article last night. Kudos.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
had so many problems with gopnik's prison essay
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
let's hear em. i thought it was well voiced and interesting but yes, problematic.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
mostly your standard civil libertarian objections, particularly how he apologized for stop-and-frisk as a necessary way to "collect fingerprints" of young people in minority communities. i'm not familiar with zimring's research tbh
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that was the big ?Like we should do stopandfrisk but "less invasively" and that's the answer? He doesn't quite explain what a less invasive form of s&f would be as i recall.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
wouldn't mind stop and frisk if performed by Clarence Thomas.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
excuse me young man could you tell me is this a pube on my coke
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 February 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Did anyone mention the article on Madagascar's plowshare tortoises (sub)? Beginning is hott, very much something you Grann stans would appreciate imho.
― omar 13337713 (Leee), Saturday, 25 February 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
some good stuff in the new one, mainly the ones about the arms smuggler and the one about altruism in evolutionary biology. shouts and murmurs was kind of amusing again. thought the davos piece would be good but it was fairly boring, which i guess was kind of the point?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
Alice Munro!
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
i have next week off! *rubs hands*
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
Doggies (sub req'd)!!!
― Nude Gingrich (Leee), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
^^
― It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
the davos piece would be good but it was fairly boring, which i guess was kind of the point
otm, but i thought that just how boring the davos attendees and event seemed was revealing in a perverse way. "drink up shriners!"
christian marclay profile in the new one is good
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Alice Munro story last week was good - it captured well that pre-feminism, passive-aggressive marriage dynamic of my grandparents' generation.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
shouts and murmurs was kind of amusing again.
Yes. I looked up the author -- he's a writer for Colbert.
Looking forward to the Marclay profile -- I don't usually get the magazine until Wed.
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
best thing this week was the piece about lawrence v. texas and the supreme court overturning anti-sodomy laws. shouts and murmurs (by jack handey) was once again pretty good! are my humor tastes getting more middlebrow?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
naw its just jack handy is an genius
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
When do y'all usually receive it? I don't get mine until Friday or Saturday.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
kindle version -> monday morning
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
i guess ipad comes on monday too tho i never really thought abt it i just open it up and sometimes its there
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
same here alfred
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
ipad version seems to come out monday midnight (nyc time)
― Wub wub wub wubwubwubwub wub Pzzzzzzz WUBB wubwub (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's a couple of issues old, but I liked the police dog story. Still, it seemed incomplete. I really wanted them to address the grieving process when dogs are killed in action, given all the allusions to dogs dying throughout the piece.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link