Early Music: RFI

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I wish I could get into the instrumental side of this stuff but I just can't.

skip, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Did you listen to the saltarello at 6:35 or so?! It's wild and droney and totally freaked out! There's another one at the very end. Maybe that's not your thing though.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I don't have any Thomas Binkley!

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I just scored EMC of London's The Art of the Netherlands on Seraphim, dir. by David Munrow, 3 LPs in a box with a book of notes and everything, for $7!

Happy last day of summer, me.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

Nice!

skip, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Cool! Keep your eyes peeled for Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

i'm extremely far from an expert on this stuff, but was listening to this thing last night
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Hz4fnJAIq5A/UBXkktm_kdI/AAAAAAAAEeg/f26TQuBgJcI/s400/dowland+1.jpeg
and it is amazing. http://ghostcapital.blogspot.com/2012/07/dowland-lachrimae-or-seaven-teares-and.html

tylerw, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

O good I'm glad you have them.

Nice find Tyler, will totes DL.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I went googling for more info about Musica Reservata and this thread was the second result :-/

On the other hand, that EMC box I bought is SO GREAT and the liner notes were really fun reading.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8qar6hpGU1rtmp17o1_1280.jpg

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

eek sorry so laaaaaaarge

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 28 September 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:37 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

aaand look what I found at the record store today!! $7 and $4 respectively!!
!!
!!!!!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8351377218_f62aefc39b_c.jpg

bish borscht (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 January 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

Have been on a medieval music listening jag since last thursday due to an email exchange with this ILX user^^^

New favorite 14th century music CD: Ensemble P.A.N.'s Unseen Rain on New Albion.

Also finally heard that Huelgas Ensemble/Brumel album Milton raves about way upthread and... it is amazing.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

i know! it was so weird!
friday: learned what a codex is
saturday: found 4-LP chansonnier cordiforme set with an elaborate booklet and everything!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

For just 400 bucks you can own a facsimile of the Chantilly Codex! (The heart-shaped piece shown here is 'Belle, Bonne, Sage'):

http://www.omifacsimiles.com/brochures/chantilly.html

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Is that the same as the one owned/commissioned by Jean de Montchenu? The whole thing is heart shaped!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think it's the same one. Mebbe the entirely heart-shaped one was the original place for Belle, Bonne, Sage, which Wiki says was added to the Chantilly Codex at a later date than the rest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantilly_Codex

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

New favorite 14th century music CD: Ensemble P.A.N.'s Unseen Rain on New Albion.

Oh snap, the dangers of Spotify listening. Turns out this is new music composed by Robert Kyr for Ensemble P.A.N. in the style of the 14th century. Punk'd! What can I say, my ears were fooled and the results are totally amazing IMO.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm finally almost done listening to that Chansonniere set -- the 4th song on the 5th side has a line in which the melody is almost identical to a tiny part of the Romeo and Juliet theme from the 1968 movie, which I remember seeing in 9th grade English class and wondering what the song was. That was kind of weird. Not really worth mentioning, but there it is.

Also - assuming that my searching isn't faulty in some way -- there seems to be no mention of Jantina Noorman on ilx?! Is this possible?!

If so, JANTINA NOORMAN. Let's talk about her and her marvelous voice. Apparently Michael Morrow (from Musica Reservata) asked her to sing like the instruments and did she ever.

Here is a piece of folk journalism about her: http://www.folkworld.de/31/e/dutch.html (worth a read if you enjoy the idea of someone going on a pilgrimage to talk to a singer whose voice he (?) loved)
Here is a picture of her first album of Dutch folk songs (and her last, I think) for Folkways, which she recorded on a whim when her family moved to the USA (which I happened to have and didn't realize it was the same lady and then when I realized...magical moment)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8364998012_cb295dc89e_c.jpg

This is a good example of what she sounded like when she sang like a crumhorn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUkWm1jcSU

And that is pretty much all I can find about her. Is there more?

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

+1 Noorman fan club

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

She also sings several tracks on the Jaye Consort's A Bawdy Elizabethan Evening album-- of which the track 'Carters, Now Cast Down Your Whips' is esp amazing.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

^this is on spotify

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

I have been wondering if Dagmar Krause was aware of Noorman's singing. There's a strong resemblance there to my ear.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

You should make an all-Jantina playlist on spotify and then the pep club (me) can force everyone to listen to it.

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

Chantilly Codex -- A medieval music thread

Ah, ^ my Chantilly thread, didn't realise there was discussion here.

Familiar w/Ensemble P.A.N.

Ita madrigals is gd too

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Can you anyone tell me of any good recordings for early Russian music plz? The bits I've heard always strike me as different in tone to other types of choral music maybe?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

the father of a friend of mine runs this label (and apparently still does really well out of it !!) :

http://www.saydisc.com/

some mad stuff from way way back ..

no idea if any of this is of interest ..

mark e, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

What an interestingly diverse label! Color me intrigued by:

http://www.wyastone.co.uk/forest-talk-an-evening-of-songs-poetry-and-humour-from-the-forest-of-dean.html

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

As per request, I give you 27 Spotify minutes of JANTINA NOORMAN:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1213493496/playlist/6Jsm5qS1iUx0alKiOxviPL

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

Only 20 more years until DeRayMi can retire!

Z S, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oooh I'll take this one! http://www.wyastone.co.uk/gloucestershire-wildlife-tapestry-a-web-of-day-night-sounds.html

And three cheers for 27 minutes of Jantina and her rustic holler!!!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

^ wildlife tapestry is on Spotify, to my amazement!

Wld make good double header with Sublime Frequencies Night Sounds of Bali

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

And also Sonic Seasonings!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Another Early music group that cam onto my radar is Sequentia. Note they've just completed the rec of Hildegard von Bingen oeuvre, begun 30 years ago! Heard of them in this article by Kevin Volans. Its Interesting that they started around the time the Early Music Revival was in full swing. Punk wasn't the only thing happening in the late 70s!

The wiki for Early Music indicates this includes Baroque as well but we're all stopping around the Renaissance, or even earlier, so Musica Antiqua Köln have been excluded. I guess we think of Bach as its own thing, but it would be good to get any views on this.

This all touches on another area -- one I've not been able to pursue -- of Historicall informed Performance xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

I have always wanted to hear Sequentia's speculative renditions of ancient Norse music.

By the way, this early music FAQ, run by a dude named Todd McComb, is the fucking BOMB:

http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/site.html

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Wow Gloucestershire Woodlands are really bustling even in winter!

I'm really loving the character who enters at about 2:45 into 'Night: Spring'--

http://open.spotify.com/track/4HKMxNBFtsRNIUdK4sVzl8

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

i should probably take it to some nature sounds thread but omg i love this
i guess nature sounds are the real early music?!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Not on spotify ah well..

Thanks for the FAQ, will have a look.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

the earliest music

xpost

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I love this, but has anyone got any purely instrumental recommendations? Thanks lots.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

what do you like so far?

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm listening to English Country Dances by The Broadside Band at this very moment. I enjoy stuff like that. Listened to lots of lute music earlier...specifically Early Venetian Lute Music.

http://www.amazon.com/Early-Venetian-Music-Ambrosio-Dalza/dp/B00004GLLX

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Here are two CDs for cheap of stompin' squawkin' renaissance dances by Munrow and company:

http://www.amazon.com/Renaissance-Dances-Tylman-Susato/dp/B000CEBOQ8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1359065968&sr=8-5&keywords=david+munrow

Here's an interesting CD of Ars Subtilior vocal music performed instrumentally by germany's spirited Ensemble Unicorn:

http://www.amazon.com/Codex-Faenza-Instrumental-Music-Century/dp/B000009OM1/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1359066109&sr=1-1&keywords=codex+faenza

here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

People don't talk about this enough in cool music circles, but Jordi Savall just might be the most reliable name in early music. Hesperion XXI can even bring dusty old 18C French overtures to life.

Plus this one is a mystical EM ur-recording: http://www.amazon.com/El-Cant-Montserrat-Figueras/dp/B004DY5B1M/

Current 93 used to play it before going on stage - talk about fostering expectations!

OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Friday, 25 January 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

That Codex Faenza looks like another top Naxos goody!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 January 2013 11:35 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for the recommendations!

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I've learned so far that I can't go wrong with anything called estampie, saltarello, or anything that's labeled as "dance music". This is my kind of dance music, apparently? One of them, at least.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Love those lutes...

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha i was just thinking yesterday while listening to something "LL should add estampie and istampitta to her list of 'always win' EM genres."

Does estampie actually mean 'stamping dance' or somesuch?

I have been super remiss in paying attention to Savall/Figueras. I only have Savall's Brandenburg Cto set (which is awesome).

here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

OH yeah the stompy/plodding/swirly drummy songs are totally the ones I love the most. For a while I listened to La Quinte Estampie Royal almost every day! So much that I can spell it from memory and actually remember the name of it -- that's a sign that a song has truly made it! Ideal song has persistent drumming (speed may vary), something droning, and another element dancing around on top of those two things.

Two Renaissance Dance Bands is the one I'd recommend, I think, but I can't remember offhand if there is singing in there or not. Either way, I'm sure you will enjoy some singing here and there.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

Yoooo

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