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Hehehe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"Temptation Two"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW AWESOME!

Half of these demos are like Seventeen Seconds with fangs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

And now there's no more surprise and you have to wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The hilarious thing is that all through "Temptation Two" I was sitting here going, "God, this sounds EXACTLY LIKE another song, but not 'Let's Go To Bed'..." and then I went, "Oh yeah, 'Temptation' from earlier on the CD. Duh."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha.

And then you started humming "Oh you've got grey eyes, oh you've got green eyes..."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Airlock" is kind of every stupid idea art students have about incidental film music wrapped up into one horrid little composition. I have no time for it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but there's giggling.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

(I like to imagine that the film shows three little dark elves dancing around and murdering Chopin.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Meanwhile, Carnage Visors details the slow crawl of a guy getting out of his chair and eventually washing his hands.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Carnage Visors is a stroke by stroke aural recreation of a slow, intense bout of sexing!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I would worry about this if Joei heard it and said "I have a headache."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Count me in the alternate Curosity thingy. I was thinking of doing sth similar tracking the evolution of 'Forever' over the years. Although, if I pick one version per tour between 1981 and 2004, it will have to be a double CD and that would maybe be a bit much to take in...

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Good Stuff.

Does anyone have a note (or know where to find a note) of the locations of the Curiosity live tracks, my tape is up the loft.

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

So let's get the track list started! This should def. include 'All I wanna do is kill her', which seems lost since it didn't appear on the Porn reissue. Although if we get all nerdy about it, one could argue that 'All Mine' and 'All I wanna do...' are improvised variations on a same theme. Or are they? Is 'All Mine' a version of 'Forever' or is it an altogether different beast? The public has the right to know!

And now that I think of it, what happened to 'Ariel'?

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

'AM' the early version of In Your House - Birmingham '79

Lament - Bath or Brighton 83 (whichever is better)

I Dig You + Cult Hero (with Frank on vocals) Barfly London March 04

I Hate Rock & Roll (improv based on Three if memory serves) Holland 81

Happy Birthday Simon/Three/All Mine Belgium 81

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The Holy Hour - Werchter Festival 81

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

All I have To Do is Kill Her - another 'Three' Improv Paris 82

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit, I ordered all three from DeepDiscount CDs on Thursday and they arrived here on Monday!

I was really on the fence about buying "Seventeen Seconds" but am very glad. The remastering alone makes these discs worthy. I listened to the Cure prior to "Head On the Door" only on cassette, and in that situation almost exclusively through crappy Walkman headphones. Listening now through a real stereo (and even on my computer's Altec's) is eye opening. AWESOME.

My complaint is that I really don't see the point of the live tracks included...I'd much, much, much rather just have a reissue of all-live stuff.

FYI, I remember searching and searching and FINALLY finding a "Concert" import CD in college and selling a textbook to go buy it.

don weiner, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

curiosity

heroin face 4 dec 77 the rocket crawley
boys dont cry 27 may 78 chestnut studio frensham
subway song oct 79 nottingham
at night 9 june 80 french radio
in your house 15 jan 80 holland
the drowning man aug 81 australia or NZ
other voices 81 "somewhere else'
the funeral party nov 81 'somewhere'
all mine 1 may 82 london
forever 15 may 84 paris

ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you very much, that is most helpful.

Now, one question, do I put any Disintegration tracks on this comp, if so which?

mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"Harold And Joe" - London 1991 (rare)
"Disintegration" - Chicago 2-25-2000
the Entreat version of "Prayers For Rain"
"Foxy Lady" - Manchester 1992

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, that would do for a start...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

They played Foxy Lady in 1992??

"Happy the Man" Paris, 1984
"Away (Cut)" London Town and Country, 1991 (actually all the early Wish songs on this are worth it)
"Letter to Elise" MTV Unplugged, 1991

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Can do most of the above, there's probably a better quality 'Happy The Man' from Washington 84, tracklist for the first CD coming soon (it's a triple!)

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

A Strange Day never sounded better. I listened to Pornography three times right through before I even thought about the extras disk.

I didn't think it was possible for me to love this album more, but I do.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Mzui, you are a glorious man. :-)

Anyone want to design a cover?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

It should be a cheap photocopy a la "Concert"

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

But that's a good thing! Anyway, I'm impatient to see the tracklist of this and shall soon start working on my Forever live compilation...

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

In that case shall I bother putting in any versions of Forever, I had intended to include at least one, a freakout version with Hartley's keyboards!

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Properly printed full colour artwork will be included.
This is going to take a little while to collate folks so be patient, but the first CD tracklist should be along in a day or two.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

No Curiosity is complete without a version of Forever! (plus who knows when I'll get around doing this...)

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I still want the Curiosity version of "Forever" on an official CD release.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It was recorded in 1984 = look for it as a bonus with either The Top or Concert

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

And what about 'Ariel'?

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't they do "A Japanese Dream" on The Kissing Tour? I need a live version of that.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

is the "studio version" of forever on the bootleg Dr. Robert's Surgery really a studio version? it sounds terrible!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Heheh, I had that bootleg for a while. Ripped the few tracks I needed from it and sent it on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay I'll keep the version of Forever in there, thanks.

*Didn't they do "A Japanese Dream" on The Kissing Tour? I need a live version of that.*

There's a good version of A Japanese Dream from a BBC broadcast in Birmingham 87. What other Kiss Me tracks are we interested in?

At the moment I'm digging out 84/Top-era stuff, got lovely versions of The Wailing Wall, The Empty World and Caterpillar lined up, oh and Secrets!

Also I found an early version of Charlotte Sometimes too that I'd totally forgotten about, the second time played live according to Bob.

Please keep the suggestions coming, they are really helpful.

No idea about Ariel, will check up if they played it ever.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Nope, only the Kid Jensen session version, I could include that.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

We need to keep an eye out for tracks that they rarely ever play like "The 13th" and "The Snakepit".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Seconding Dan there. Hearing what they do live with the rare ones is always a treat.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Got a couple of Snakepits, also have a version of The 13th (it was only played 5 times) quality is not amazing as it's an audience recording, but it's quite listenable, with a bit of tweaking it should be okay.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Was "The 13th" the most immediately ignored-by-the-band lead single from an album ever?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

When in Hell are they going to release all those BBC Sessions anyway?
Never. They are holding them back to spite you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like the "Japanese Whispers" songs will all be part of the "The Top" reissue. Unless they reissue "Japanese Whispers" itself, but I doubt that.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

As Ned mentioned above:

Good lord, so the next set of rereleases will cover the Glove, Japanese Whispers stuffage in some form and The Top. OH HOW SAD AND HORRIBLE.

Also, Japanese Whispers is right around the time when The Cure started doing more 12" remixes (even though there is an extended version of "Primary" that, AFAIR, isn't on the Faith reissue), so I assume those remixes will populate that reissue. Also, when was Concert recorded and released? Maybe, it might be a two-fer?

Who knows?

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Concert was recorded/released following The Top, and is notable because it captures the lineup in transition towards (but not yet near) Thee Classic Smith/Gallup/Thompson/Williams/Tolhurst songwriting credit era of yore. A two-fer is entirely possible -- and indeed, I muttered my wish on that above. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm excited about the Japanese Whispers, Blue Sunshine, and The Top reissues... but I have to admit.. I wish I cold fast forward time and get to the Head On The Door, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, and Disintegration reissues.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 5 May 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link


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