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ah. i'm not sure that this is the best strategy, then.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

she doesn't write for them as much as she sold the rights to two tracks they used as filler on albums. no relation in reality

she seems batshit insane, though, should probably get a padded cell

abcfsk, Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

new miss a EP rather underwhelming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

i only listened to the title song so far, it's such a mess. i guess the other songs must be better, will give the ep a listen in the next few days.

expect to see this on the youtube chart next week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRP1rkE4O0 big bang - blue

blah blah blah, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I'm liking the Big Bang, toning it down was a good idea, feels like a 2012 version of their earliest stuff.

This is kinda dreamy and great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw077fxesZs

The new Brave Girls single is decent, but this album track kills it http://youtu.be/cm_OV7q_GVk

abcfsk, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. I'm not sure i've listened to Park Ji Yoon in about nine years but that's really lovely.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I really like the big bang song. interesting that the girls in it are european - recall a few blog posts dissecting the gender politics of the last big bang (or was it gd/top) video that did that.

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

My favorite thing about the "Blue" video is that G-Dragon made ALL the members of Big Bang pose so that they ambiguously are, and are with, the white hipster girl.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

When it was announced that Teddy Park had co-written most of the tracks on the Big Bang album, I was (happily) anticipating something like this, without the editing glitches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9oa45GuRMk

Big Bang vocals and an actual sad-euphoric build is all I ever wanted out of a song, apparently. >_> Blue is not bad though, it is restful next to their more dramatic tracks. I am holding out hope for at least one really "big" track on the album, though.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

man I don't know why I wrote european, I should have just said white. sorry about that.

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

@dayo the video with mostly white girls is GDTOP, High High (about clubbing). They used a Korean girl for their teen romance song, though. Now I wanna read those blog posts...

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

think the gist of it was male aggrandizing as specifically related to asian males - i.e. they're so masculine that they get white chicks. or something.

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

That makes sense. There was a lot of male aggrandizing going in the videos for that album, you know, all the playboy bunny girls, the girls at the club and the spa, etc.

(I wrote "compensatory male aggrandizing" but it could have also been because it was a more 'hip hop' album and that's what hip hop albums are like, I guess.)

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

seems like I only learn about new k-pop songs after they get posted on TSJ, but I love how aggressive this one is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiMntBGX-6c

flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 27 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnV55LUFVM

big bang pursues more white hipster girls

what's that horse's tail hanging out of gd's hat?

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

That's his Skrillex 'do.

I'm liking this as a lot well, looks to be a great campaign for Big Bang. They needed some scandals to.. ehm, chill out their music? A bit much 'walking in NY' if the coming MVs follow suit, though.

There's nothing new to this Rainbow song except they've found the most infectious phrase ever to go with an infectious chorus. GONNA GO, GONNA GONNA GO, GONNA GO - LETS GO!: http://youtu.be/dKDS7zzz-kU

abcfsk, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Ok I think this will become one of my favorite Big Bang songs.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Not a great video, but it does its job. Alive is selling visible amounts on iTunes worldwide.
The song is nice.

blah blah blah, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

we haven't talked about this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjr485xFf7A

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/CVct0.gif

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

Talked about it at other places and forgot, I guess. I like that EP of hers, and was surprised she basically used it to give her own take on various American pop templates instead of doing a more pure hip hop album (where her roots are). As some TSJ folks pointed out her rapping in the verses are the highlights of DIRTY, still not 100% sure if I like the safe-pop production, but it's a fun song. Also like SNSD Sunny's singing on that one track.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Btw the third Big Bang MV is not 'walking in NY'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAbokV76tkU

abcfsk, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

that doesn't feel like the video the song deserves

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 02:06 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aOq_1T8XY0

abcfsk, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Talked about it at other places and forgot, I guess. I like that EP of hers, and was surprised she basically used it to give her own take on various American pop templates instead of doing a more pure hip hop album (where her roots are). As some TSJ folks pointed out her rapping in the verses are the highlights of DIRTY, still not 100% sure if I like the safe-pop production, but it's a fun song. Also like SNSD Sunny's singing on that one track.

― abcfsk, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:25 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah the rapping is key - TSJ write-up compared her to nicki but I'm not quite sure that's accurate - maybe if just focusing on swagger.

I love the end of 'dirty' where she's going all out in autotune. so much energy - except instead of coming through in feedback and distortion, it's coming through in autotune. using autotune as a filter for rage? interesting!

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Big Bang Fantastic Baby video is a takeoff on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgJVNAbkTwc";>Sixth Sense</a> as well as being a gigantic loveletter to the international fanbase. Basically while Brown Eyed Girls fought against censorship in their MV by being actively sexual, Big Bang lounge around on thrones or face personal demons while their supporters in gas masks fight the battle against the people who didn't want them to release music this year. As a reward, the fans get to join in the dance party at the end.

Taeyang, Daesung and Seungri all take their shirts off in this, but I'm actually more struck by how objectified TOP is, like he's literally a piece of art hanging on the wall of the gallery! Even when he "comes alive" he's still not very active-gaze. Flashing back to Knock Out and his brag verse about having the prettiest eyelashes.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

That should have been Sixth Sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgJVNAbkTwc

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08H6gbW6YQ

fffv, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn8mfNvGVYQ&feature=colike

smh @ kanye "HUNRGHS"

wonder if gd got extensions to get that skrillex hair?

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

oh the kanye HUHs were in the studio version too, just not so pronounced

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

is K-Pop EP-oriented in general? definitely approve - wish the american record industry would return to this format also

flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37WOB7cf44

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 17 March 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

"is K-Pop EP-oriented in general? "

Generally, yeah. Allows them to put out two a year instead of one, less of an investment, etc. Usually works out for the better musically as well.

Top 5 year-end sellers are full albums, though.

2011 YEAR END PHYSICAL ALBUM SALES CHART

1. Girls' Generation - The Boys (385,348)
2. Super Junior - `Mr. Simple` The 5th Album (343,348)
3. TVXQ - `왜(Keep Your Head Down)` (263,412)
4. JYJ - In Heaven (220,442)
5. BEAST - Fiction and Fact (142,272)
6. BIG BANG - BIGBANG 4th Mini-Album (136,594)
7. Super Junior - `Mr. Simple` The 5th Album Repackage (A-Cha) (129,894)
8. CNBLUE - FIRST STEP (115,467)
9. Kim Hyun Joong - Break Down (EP) (114,642)
10. Kim Hyun Joong - Lucky (2nd Mini Album) (101,705)

11. KARA - STEP (100,662)
12. 2PM - Hands Up (100,379)
13. BIG BANG - BIG BANG Special Edition (89,371)
14. 2NE1 - 2NE1 2nd Mini Album (85,819)
15. IU - Last Fantasy (71,860)
16. Various Artists - Infinite Challenge West Coast Highway (71,300)
17. Jay Park - Take A Deeper Look (EP) (66,316)
18. JYJ - In Heaven (Special Edition) (62,790)
19. f(x) - `Pinocchio` The 1st Album (61,637)
20. TVXQ - `왜(Keep Your Head Down)` REPACKAGE (60,205)

abcfsk, Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

new BoA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUrGpU6KY6M

dayo, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

New BoA but in a "uplifting talent show soundtrack" role and no one gets out of that with much personality left. Still, thankful for what I get and she's very much amazing as a TV personality on the show (since, for us fans, she's avoided talk/variety TV like the plague her whole career, it's a surreal weekly experience).

abcfsk, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DDpo7qQQDI
UK-Pop for a Japanese release. Pixie Lott ft. GD&TOP - Dancing On My Own. I wonder if there're gonna be other collaborations like this in the future. I would prefer an original song with Korean rap. This isn't bad either.

re K-Pop vs the EP format: yes, loads of EP's there. It's just they prefer to call it Mini-Album and stuff like that.

blah blah blah, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

Did you guys notice the last update on Jenny Hyun's site (about one day after her shit blew this thread up)? http://jennyhyun.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/apology-to-all/

apology to all
Posted on February 19, 2012 by Jenny Hyun

Jenny Hyun has been admitted to a hospital today. She is a paranoid schizophrenic and has been battling mental illness, a debilitating disease for many years.
Friends and family of Jenny want to extend their sincere apology for any harmful statements made verbally or via the web that Jenny has made while she was in the height of a psyshosis episode. We appreciate your understanding during this difficult time for he

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah we discussed how it doesn't pass the sniff test in the 'is this racist' thread

dayo, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyG5tTZ1iE

digging this!

dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ro1KjkJMg

ah I love the handclap sound

dayo, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk6_37xuu1Q

dope throwback

dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

think I'll stop embedding for the sake of everybody's browsers

http://youtu.be/raOsXsYgd7M nice straight-up dance pop

dayo, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

Don't know if you meant to post the two big old-skool k-pop boy bands after one another, but it's a nice example of how one comes off slightly desperate in his comeback attempts (Tony An, not talking about that performance, though) and how Shinhwa still seem pretty well-suited for the pop star life. Wouldn't say Venus is amazing, but people have been saying the EP is pretty solid.

As for Ailee there, I said somewhere else, she and her songwriter really nailed that formula. The big melodic belter. To be honest I think that stuff would have an easier time making it big on the Billboard than the ones trying really hard.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

hah I don't know shinhwa, but it pleased me to see H.O.T. doing 'candy' in 2012 (or, as it were, just tony an)

dayo, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah ailee strikes a nice balance between ballad and banger

dayo, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

as for ballads I like Lyn

dayo, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

I like this Ali ballad http://youtu.be/U6xIO6j2mqE

abcfsk, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

New SPICA - Painkiller http://youtu.be/gO-n43lUS7s

abcfsk, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://youtu.be/QbJCB2ArgK0

Tomorrow at the lower east side!!

rayuela, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

(probably not the perfect thread for that band but i had to express my glee)

rayuela, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link


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