― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
Neither have I, though I did pick up the DVD cheap a few weeks back, so one day I'll actually watch the darn thing...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:04 (twenty years ago) link
If you read the original shooting script you will see that much that seems "inexplicable" in the final cut is indeed explicated, in a quite turgid manner. For example David Bowie's appearance. I'm torn between wishing the entire script made it into the film (it would've been more than three hours long) and being glad it didn't. I get the feeling that the cut as it exists is not completely due to the studio imposing a two-hour running time on Lynch's company. I suspect that Lynch was tired of the overexplicit nature of the original screenplay and did something of a cut-and-paste to achieve the requisite level of incoherence.
Anyways. Jacques Rivette on this film:
I don't own a television, which is why I couldn't share Serge Daney's passion for TV series. And I took a long time to appreciate Lynch. In fact, I didn't really start until Blue Velvet (1986). With Isabella Rossellini's apartment, Lynch succeeded in creating the creepiest set in the history of cinema. And Twin Peaks, the Film is the craziest film in the history of cinema. I have no idea what happened, I have no idea what I saw, all I know is that I left the theater floating six feet above the ground. Only the first part of Lost Highway (1996) is as great. After which you get the idea, and by the last section I was one step ahead of the film, although it remained a powerful experience right up to the end.
And Jonathan Rosenbaum (who much admires Rivette) on this film:
The 1992 prequel to David Lynch and Mark Frost's famous but short-lived TV series, this deals with the events leading up to the murder of Laura Palmer (Sheryl Lee) in a Pacific northwest town that suggests a somewhat funnier and kinkier version of Peyton Place. It has its moments, but not many, and generally speaking it runs neck and neck with Dune as the least successful and least interesting Lynch feature. The material, not much different from Jennifer Lynch's spin-off book The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer, involves a lot of heavy breathing about the evil that lurks in supposedly innocent small towns, with various intimations about sexual abuse. The surrealist conceits work better here than the orgies, and both suggest that Lynch was badly in need of both a rest and a change of pace. With Kyle MacLachlan as caffeine-addicted FBI agent Dale Cooper, Harry Dean Stanton, David Bowie, Chris Isaak, Moira Kelly, Ray Wise, and other weird types--though not, alas, Sherilyn Fenn, Russ Tamblyn, Richard Beymer, Joan Chen, Piper Laurie, Jack Nance, and others from the TV series. Robert Engels wrote the script with Lynch. 135 min.
I'm more with Rivette. I enjoy the film, tremendously at times. I couldn't disagree more with Rosenbaum about it and Dune being uninteresting. Unsuccessful, perhaps, but the failings of these films shed about as much light on Lynch's peculiarities of style as the more "successful" films like Mulholland Drive or Blue Velvet (the former being my least favorite Lynch feature, the latter being my favorite).
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 16 May 2003 21:50 (twenty years ago) link
So, um, maybe classic, maybe dud.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link
This reminds me of an afternoon when I dozed off while listening to It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. In my half-sleeping delerium I remember thinking to myself, "What a lovely, sweet record...."
― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 17 May 2003 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, yeah, the boys told me that the end of Fire Walk with Me was fairly, um, dramatic. But I was snoring off in my own world (much like I did through Akira and some other movie last weekend. And, likely, much as I will do this weekend, while watching the original "Bedazzled" and um, whatever that new anime is that everyone is raving about).
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 17 May 2003 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Saturday, 17 May 2003 03:34 (twenty years ago) link
Just watched it, did little for me except creep me out in an uninteresting way. I'm also fresh from watching the TV series for the first time, and through it all I always felt that the brunt of its appeal was in Coop, and that in the end it was his story, not Laura's. So what scenes that had him in it are classic, everything else I didn't care for.
― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link
Joan Chen....Jocelyn "Josie" Packard (scenes deleted)
Jan D'Arcy....Sylvia Horne (scenes deleted)
Don S. Davis....Maj. Garland Briggs (scenes deleted)
Mary Jo Deschanel....Eileen Hayward (scenes deleted)
Warren Frost....Doc Hayward (scenes deleted)
Harry Goaz....Deputy Andy Brennan (scenes deleted)
Michael Horse....Deputy Hawk (scenes deleted)
David Patrick Kelly....Jerry Horne (scenes deleted)
Everett McGill....Big Ed Hurley (scenes deleted)
Jack Nance....Pete Martell (scenes deleted)
Michael Ontkean....Sheriff Harry S. Truman (scenes deleted)
Kimmy Robertson....Lucy Moran (scenes deleted)
Wendy Robie....Nadine Hurley (scenes deleted)
Charlotte Stewart....Betty Briggs (scenes deleted)
Russ Tamblyn....Dr. Lawrence Jacoby (scenes deleted)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
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― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't make us wait!
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
PRESS RELEASE
TWIN PEAKS, FIRE WALK WITH MEON DVD DECEMBER 8TH MK2 EDITIONS
Since May 2002, fans from all over the world have been asking us to edit the original cut scenes from “Twin Peaks – Fire Walk With Me.”
As early as 2002, New Line, the American editor of the DVD, had tried to include these cut excerpts into its edition, but had been forced to give up for financial reasons.
We have tried several times to contact David Lynch and his associates to find a technical and financial solution to the problem.
We had thus stopped exporting the film worldwide in 2002 and 2003, and had delayed the French editing of the DVD.
Despite a few sporadic contacts, mail without answers and missing appointment on David Lynch’s side has made us take the decision not to deprive the French audience anymore from this major film that is also an important work in David Lynch’s filmography.
The DVD, to be released on December 8th 2004 in France, will thus be edited with as much care as any of the other MK2 products, but these cut scenes will unfortunately be missing.
We still hope – as all David Lynch fans worldwide do – to have these cut scenes included in a future version of the DVD, but this responsibility and willingness has to be shared by David Lynch himself.
MK2 Editions
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link
(FWMM = classic btw. Scary, funny and very moving all at the same time; I blub like a baby at the end, every time.)
― Mog, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Queen G is not what he screams, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
The stairs/fan scene should have been in the film.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that and the scene at the Hayward place are the two that really feel like "missing pieces" insofar as they feel like they belong to the other film. Maybe the palmer dinner scene too as it provides a contrast to the later (wash your hands) scene
― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Saturday, 2 December 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
yeah i love the happy palmers. makes everything much sadder. would've probably felt excessive in the film itself though
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 December 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
i love that whole scene, where bobby is just so fucked up over having shot a guy, and laura can't stop laughing― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:54 (two days ago) Permalinkreally enriches bobby's scene with jacoby in the first season― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:55 (two days ago) Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:54 (two days ago) Permalink
really enriches bobby's scene with jacoby in the first season
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:55 (two days ago) Permalink
idk why, but having to piece together an explanation from events witnessed out of chronological sequence seems to add to the emotional richness
― bernard snowy, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
any reports from the boxset people? i'm a jerk and a half but if the BTS stuff is good (and why wouldn't it be, since built to spill were once capable of transcendence on a good night, although i've also seen them on a night where i almost fell asleep - indie dad joke) i definitely want to track down the good bits on this here internet
― Karl Malone, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
They played a great set at the Road House
― The Spilling of a Sacred Beer (latebloomer), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link
i feel like Twin Peaks would be a MAJOR market for Built to Spill
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
RIP Pamela Gidley (Teresa Banks). Small role, but she gave a really striking performance
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pamela-gidley-dies-twin-peaks-141938829.html
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
glad to see a lot of places picking the news up, she was a very good actor and an equally decent person.
― omar little, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
Watched this for I guess the 3rd time tonight, this time with my kids — we just finished the first two seasons (skipping most of the back half of season 2, except for the final episode). There were points in the movie where I wondered if it was too much for them, they're 16 and 12, but they're pretty invested in seeing the whole Twin Peaks universe. They were definitely scared and upset by stuff in the movie that is scary and upsetting, but they were also just kind of mesmerized by the whole thing. It is a trip. Really the darkest single thing he's ever done.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link
Also, I knew its reputation had improved over the years, but it's pretty striking to look at Metacritic — reviews range from 100 to 0, in an almost perfect reverse chronological order. https://www.metacritic.com/movie/twin-peaks-fire-walk-with-me/critic-reviews
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 March 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link
I really want to watch TP with my kid, but she’s 11 and it is not yet time. Maddy’s death would be Too Much. Maybe another year or two. It will be a while before she can handle FWWM though. I saw it totally alone in a theater when I was 16 and it stunned me.
Every time I see it I like it more and i’m glad its reputation has turned around. Is it Lynch’s scariest movie? The evil in it feels real in a way that he usually doesn’t manage or try for.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 28 March 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link
It's pretty scary! And in really visceral and upsetting ways. My kids like horror movies and have seen Halloween, Friday the 13th, The Thing, Scream. But none of those feel like FWWM, the conventions of the genres and the stories give more distance. FWWM forces you to feel Laura's desperation and horror, it doesn't give you much distance.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 March 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link
A dad rapes and kills his daughter, the main character of the show/movie--it's definitely the darkest thing he's done. Cow OTM about the evil being "real" in a way that Inland Empire or even Mulholland Drive isn't.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 28 March 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
R.I.P. Jacques Renault. I hope they put "I am as blank as a fart" on his headstone.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/04/07/walter-olkewicz-dies-twin-peaks-actor-starred-jacques-renault/7133539002/
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
Watching this for the first time since seeing The Return three times, which kinda reset my brain on how to understand time and suchlike. Harry Dean Stanton is surely a different character? They both run (different) trailer parks but are very different in personality. Dammit I had other more important thoughts I forget, something about seperating the young Lynch kid (Tremond? grandchild or something) from the Jumping Man, but what I've mainly learnt these years is to not concentrate on any sort of plot, it's all thematically and visually connected, I suppose that big spurious blog you were all praising might agree but fuck all nonsense except Lynch nonsense. If he draws 6 from his jar tomorrow I think the universe will have aligned
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
I'd never heard this song til the other day and didn't know that what I thought of as just an oddball Twin Peaks line — immortalized by Laura's "gobble gobble" — was a reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yd3DRhAI0
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 September 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link
Which in turn comes from this: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5758/
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 5 September 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link