S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (382 of them)
no kenneth anger?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Silverlake Life if "arty" = "gritty, lo-fi mid-80s documentary"

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Farewell My Concubine bothered me in '93 and when I re-watched recently. Another Ill-Fated Suffering Fag movie at the core, like The Children's Hour with eye-popping visuals.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow. Postcards from America has Christmas cruising and non-liner sex-for-pay with hitchhikers!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

water drops on burning rocks

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Gregg Araki's The Living End

xero, Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't seen The Celluloid Closet, but that's supposed to be pretty great.

search..uh.. Midnight Cowboy? The Conformist? Dog Day Afternoon? I guess those are just movies with gay people in them, though haha

I watched most of Latter Days with my last roommate. He didn't seem to find it all to, er, edifying, so.. destroy.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

this thread makes me want to go rent apartment zero.

this site is funny:

http://campblood.org/

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

and don't forget about my hero!!! I STILL haven't seen the sisterhood!! can you believe it? :

http://www.tlavideo.com/templates/results_list.cfm?v=0&sn=1&pid=8358

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You KNOW you want to see Ring Of Darkness:


"It all starts when the lead singer of a boy band just doesn't fit into the team anymore. So they do what all good boy bands do, the underwear-clad studs gather round the singer and suck his blood dry. To replace the lead singer the band, and their manager played with calm poise by Adrienne Barbeau (the actress, currently on "Carnavale" on HBO, is known for creating the role of Rizzo in Grease and playing Maude's daughter in the '70s TV show) decide to hold public concerts. Creating a sort of reality TV situation they select three contestants and invite the hunky boys to their private island where they will select the new singer. Immediately, there's friction with a girlfriend, a hero boy with a guitar on his back and lots of 6-pack abs and raised shirts. When the "good" contestant Shawn finds a secret cave with voodoo dolls, tons of candles, a torture rack and mysterious band photos, there's hell to pay."

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://campblood.org/

OMG! That reminds me of a movie whose credentials as arty or gay are on probation, but Sleepaway Camp is the best slasher movie!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

seriously now i'm getting kinda puzzled why none of you seem to know kenneth anger.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link

...Because I haven't been on this thread yet?

First gay fillum per se is Basil Dearden's Victim, starring Dirk Bogarde as a homo barrister in the days before Wolfenden, being scared to shit because bad men were bribing him with cottage photos. It's amazing. It's also on PBS affiliates about once every year, usually in a season with The Servant and other class-based dramas.

Also Paris is Burning seems to speak to/about the years I lived in NYC.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link

still no anger, suzy.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I was gonna mention movies like Victim (which is indeed amazing for a film made in 1960), Show Me Love (the best lesbian flick ever?), Beautiful Thing, etc, but I didn't think they were what Eric was after, since they're more "socially conscious" than "arty".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I admit I was using "arty" as something of a red herring. Beautiful Thing is a lot better than most of the other coming out teen dramas.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"Victim" was on Channel 4 last week, what a great 60s UK cast: Bogarde, Sylvia Syms (what a babe!), Dennis Price, Anthony Nicholls, Peter Copley, Norman Bird, Peter McEnery, Donald Churchill, Derren Nesbitt (hooray!), John Cairney (!), Nigel Stock, Charles Lloyd Pack, Frank Thornton ...

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Anger's on the astrology thread

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
The grrrreat The Joy of Life hits DVD tomorrow (and it, uh, ain't just gay):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FP2YR2/102-1063953-7028925

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

L.I.E. was pretty great.

still hstencil OTM about Anger, the epitome of gay "artiness"

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

search: "Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train"

Fetchboy (Felcher), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

For your lesbian, artsy s&m fix, search Maria Beatty's The Black Glove and the Elegant Spanking.

Jena (JenaP), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I like:

Parting Glances
The Living End
Wild Reeds
The Opposite of Sex
Gods & Monsters
Bad Education

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

What is this board's general consensus on the movie Touch Of Pink? I loved it, but have heard of others not quite enjoying it. I thought Kyle Maclachlan was superb as the spirit of Cary Grant and actually thought Alim and Giles were great together. I don't know how "arty" the movie is, though. I know it's an "independent" film, but so was Velvet Goldmine, and I'm fairly certain that film has no place in this kind of discussion.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sort of off topic? you know when a trad guns n ammo movie tries to crossover into artyness just by having one random gay tough guy/G? oh WOW, homothug = 'a shoot em up with heart...and some brain" "oh see, it must have been the JAIL. clever"

I want gangster movies where EVERYONE is gay!

LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh wait, The Warriors.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

There's an old flick called Becket with Peter O'Toole & Richard Burton that's about King Henry II that has gay undertones, but done in such a subtle manner so as not to offend the masses in the '60s when it was made. Anyone see this?

oh, i think that a bare-chested henry II whipping himself to a bloody pulp at beckett's tomb is pretty not-subtle if you ask me.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

re beckett: since it was based on a french play on the same subject, i've always wondered if the original play also has all of those "hey, sailor!" moments.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember a movie called Sebastian, with music by Eno from the late 70s/early 80s that was pretty gay. Set in Roman times, and largley (entirely?) in Latin.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Derek Jarman'll do that for ya.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

You gotta love the French flick Funny Felix, where the protagonist is both gay and HIV positive, yet neither of those is what the movie's about.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean, it's rare to see a film where HIV just happen to be something the main character lives with, rather than dies to.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Kenneth Anger vol. 1 to finally be released by Fantoma in November.

http://www.fantoma.com/fantoma.html

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

directors to search:

george/mike kuchar
kenneth anger
jim hubbard
tom chomont
lawrence brose
james broughton
joel singer
jerry tartaglia
jack smith
willard maas
chantal akerman
su friedrich
barbara hammer
marlon riggs
john greyson

joseph (joseph), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of my favorites:

Mala Noche
My Own Private Idaho
Naked Lunch
Wild Reeds
Water Drops on Burning Rocks
Tropical Malady

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked But I'm a Cheerleader a lot

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I know it's an "independent" film, but so was Velvet Goldmine, and I'm fairly certain that film has no place in this kind of discussion.

very puzzling that this is the only (wrongheaded) mention of todd haynes on this thread. don't pretty much all of haynes' movies fit exactly this description?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 1 October 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't wait to see how the Dylan pic fits the criteria (no snark intended, by the way).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah. well, maybe in the way that t.h.'s movies are all about identity in various ways (which always seems at least implicitly tied to gayness, and explicitly in a lot of them). dylan's a good case study in the creation and manipulation of identity, and also the way it can be a trap, etc. (i assume that's the point of having so many different actors play the part.) anyway, i'm looking forward to that movie.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also david lynch possibly has a place in the discussion, homophobe tho he may be. mulholland drive is on logo a lot, and he also seems like one of the most obvious descendants of kenneth anger, cinematically.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

how is Lynch a homophobe? I admit: homos exist for him for fetishizing purposes (eyeliner, feyness, white powder, "In Dreams").

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

well yeah, homophobe might not be fair. i'm mostly thinking of the dean stockwell character there, who's kind of a poison-queen archetype (and lynch's archetypes tend to be kind of reactionary in general). but at the same time, the first time i saw scorpio rising i thought, "wow, david lynch has seen this movie a hundred times."

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

After several dozen screenings, I still can't say for certain that Dean Stockwell IS gay -- or whether it matters. He's just a mincing weirdo, the most outrageous element in that most outrageous of scenes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 1 October 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone familiar with this new Mexican director Julián Hernández? His A Thousand Clouds of Peace... was really something -- like early Van Sant, only more elliptical, and he's got one that just opened in NYC, Broken Sky, that sounds like it will attract tons of Chelsea boys (for the young Latin flesh) who will go to sleep (from all the pining and wandering, 140 minutes' worth).

http://slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=2552


Kenneth Anger in person at an hourlong screening of his 'essentials' next Saturday night at the NY Film Fest (tix still available):

http://www.filmlinc.com/nyff/program/avantgarde/kennethanger.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
wow, Two Drifters is outrageous and deadpan. Less sex than O Fantasma but even more pervy, it's true. Strangest needledrop score too -- Andy Williams to Bright Eyes!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if Jackass 2 belongs here?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

That Kenneth Anger thing is coming to the Walker in Minneapolis soon. I should go!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

what's the deal w jackass 2?

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 6 January 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

NEWSIES

Abbott (Abbott), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

(x-post) It's sort of a weird crypto AIDS movie in which gayness is surpressed with self-imposed body abuse. Until the finale, when the thin line is crossed and it sucks big time.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 January 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Paul Mescal, though! I thought he was a wan little thing. Every time he chortled and looked at Andrew Scott I wanted to -- well.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2023 16:48 (four months ago) link

First reasonably mainstream movie to feature one man cleaning up his own, er, mess from another man's chest?

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 16:56 (four months ago) link

I finally saw Saltburn. And I wish I had stayed home and rewatched Teorema.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:55 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

something i’ll say for saltburn is i’ve never felt completely uninvolved in something “trashy” before

ivy., Wednesday, 27 December 2023 15:37 (four months ago) link

anyway, very bad! gorgeously lit but no one behind the camera is making images out of this gorgeous lighting! script is obviously intended to be Hilarious but it isn’t funny???? (rosamund pike doing her best)

ivy., Wednesday, 27 December 2023 15:39 (four months ago) link

https://t.co/k5HoOU1NLv pic.twitter.com/abH1tYD0tD

— Larry Fitzmaurice (@lfitzmaurice) December 27, 2023

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 15:43 (four months ago) link

Not much discussion here of Rotting in the Sun. I watched it last week and liked it, actually found it fairly affecting at the end. Won't say much because it starts out seeming like one kind of movie and becomes quite different.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 15:55 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

There are individual scenes in All of Us Strangers that I found really affecting, and the performances were uniformly excellent, but as a narrative I'm not sure what to make of it.

jaymc, Sunday, 14 January 2024 02:32 (three months ago) link

I watched the trailer and determined it wasn’t for me.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 January 2024 12:55 (three months ago) link

Ha, I watched the trailer and determined no movie has ever been more for me.

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 14 January 2024 13:53 (three months ago) link

Y'all should watch Winter Boy, a gay film of arty qualities released last year that covers some of the same ground yet is funnier and lighter.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2024 13:57 (three months ago) link

I don’t think All of Us Strangers was meant to be light

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 14:32 (three months ago) link

That's the problem.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2024 14:42 (three months ago) link

There really should be more light, funny films about grief

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 14:47 (three months ago) link

My problem mostly has to do with the ending.

jaymc, Sunday, 14 January 2024 14:58 (three months ago) link

There really should be more light, funny films about grief

― Wack Snyder (Eric H.),

I recommended one!

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2024 15:01 (three months ago) link

Hard pass then

Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 15:22 (three months ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.