Anyway you're right about the post-teenpop casting about for imagesee also the adjectives on the releases accompanying the Vanessa Carlton and Michelle Branch records and the heralding of J. Timberlake as the next Michael Jackson (and probably the gossip column items linking him to Janet as well). The wholesale buying into it by so-called critics is what rankles me, I guess.
And I still think that "Just Like A Pill" sounds crap; on the radio the mixing up of the bass makes the song sound like it's just her and drums made of crinkly paper, no matter how much graphic equalizer fiddling you do.
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ps where did i ever say i wanted liz phair on the radio? i just don't want drums that sound like their sound came from a present's being unwrapped.
Joni Mitchell gave it props recently! I think Michelle Branch's "Game of Love" is the positive female counterpart to this song. They sound so similar, chordwise & vocally.
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― David A. (Davant), Sunday, 10 August 2003 05:28 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, what's to hate?
Her version of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" doesn't suck anywhere near as much as I though it would. And the proceeds go to War Child.
Some people just hate teenagers in a kind of irrational orgy of (their own) post-adolescent self-loathing, I guess.
― David A. (Davant), Sunday, 10 August 2003 05:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 10 August 2003 06:02 (twenty years ago) link
this may be my favorite post ever.
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 10 August 2003 06:03 (twenty years ago) link
I saw Avril recently -- probably on MuchMusic -- and she said almost the same thing.
Then she said she's ditching the tie.
Priceless.
― David A. (Davant), Sunday, 10 August 2003 06:22 (twenty years ago) link
As one, I think I can say sans the post-adolescent self-loathing (but with adolescent self-loathing to spare!) that a good majority of people hate teenagers, because they're dumb.
Especially in the Avril case, with Complicated and Sk8r Boi's incessent whining that preppies just don't get them, and they're tired of being outcasts. Nevermind the borderline racist (yes, I said it) mentality of putting people into such groups -- I'll let it slide, that's what teens do -- but c'mon, skaters aren't the outcasts? It's nerds.
That's why DEVO will always be the ultimate punks.
I think I was trying to make a point, but lost it when DEVO sprung to my mind. Damn. Well, I'll go listen to them now. Right.
― David Allen, Sunday, 10 August 2003 06:25 (twenty years ago) link
Then again, maybe "mainstream" teenagers are, after all, as dumb as their adult counterparts.
But seriously, I've worked with damaged and hurt (street, abused, neglected) teens for a long time, and they never cease to surprise me (perhaps because I'm dumb?) with their intelligence and insights.
I have this theory that those of us who had crappy transitions into adulthood, if we haven't confronted and in some way "dealt" with them, we tend to view childhood -- and especially adolescence -- as something bad.
I've seen perfectly "nice" adults fuck up their kids royally, and usually over something trivial -- like "if you won't follow the rules of my house, get out!" People: do you ever stop and think what happens to kids out there when no-one but their equally lost friends are looking out for them?
Sorry. Something I got a lot of thoughts and surprising emotion about. I'm not necessarily defending Avril, per se, but just that sense that it's the feeling of being outcast that matters to many, whether it's objectively true or not.
Now back to our scheduled programming...
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other than the dubstep hello kitty song theres a lot to like here, i even have good initial feelings abt the kroeger duet ballad and (to a lesser extent) the manson song
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
and overall this is miles better than the new katy perry
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
Dubstep hello kitty song?
*listens*
Oh dear.
― MarkoP, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
there's a new avril lavigne??
― Mordy , Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/MM8qYvy.png
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 07:32 (ten years ago) link
haha how bad is this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZsf4F7Oe7A
― Scooby Doom (۩), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link
Bloody hell she's 30 this year
― Scooby Doom (۩), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:39 (ten years ago) link
and Love Angel Music Baby is 10 this year
― some dude, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
"Harajuku Girls" wasn't very good, but it had a hook or two. But this... jfc
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
is this what happens to punks when they grow old
― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6077437/avril-lavigne-charges-400-fan-photos-brazil
― DDD, Sunday, 4 May 2014 10:14 (nine years ago) link
^ Avril Lavigne Charges $400 for Awkward Fan Photos in Brazil
― DDD, Sunday, 4 May 2014 10:15 (nine years ago) link
gee, even my shrink, parole officer, ex, etc stands closer to me than Avril to her fans. err. literally
― Ludo, Sunday, 4 May 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link
I guess?
https://twitter.com/AvrilLavigne/status/557258140182642688
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:16 (nine years ago) link
dud af, fuck outta here
― soyrev, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link
She found god
https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/columns/pop/8480271/avril-lavigne-billboard-cover-story?__twitter_impression=true
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
Interesting story -- glad she's better.
― a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 18 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
https://toxictiktoks.tumblr.com/post/635617900676415488
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link