wkiw marilyn
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 9 March 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
sure but i still wish this was Neil Michael Haggerty's amazing Olive Garden review and the subsequent viral shitstorm
― Your Ample Girth Does Intimidate (Matt P), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Antony Hegarty's Olive Garden ReviewJulie Hagerty's etc.
― the dried stigmas of the saffron crocus (get bent), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
it felt more proust than hemingway to me
― iatee, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
i like her writing!
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Friday, March 9, 2012 3:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the great thign about the original article is how coolly matter-of-fact it is.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Friday, March 9, 2012 3:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for real, i kept thinking "this isn't lolzy, this is some hemingway shit"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, March 9, 2012 3:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this this this all this. she's a better writer than he is!
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i'm missing the part where she's oohing and aahing about how great the olive garden is; she just basically says "yup, there's a new olive garden, the waiters wear uniforms, soup warms you up when it's cold."
― the dried stigmas of the saffron crocus (get bent), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
"and yes - several black olives"
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
The chicken Alfredo ($10.95) was warm and comforting on a cold day. The portion was generous. My server was ready with Parmesan cheese.As I ate, I noticed the vases and planters with permanent flower displays on the ledges. There are several dining areas with arched doorways.
As I ate, I noticed the vases and planters with permanent flower displays on the ledges. There are several dining areas with arched doorways.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
she writes in a really self-aware and intentional version of that semi-autistic yelper's style we all made fun of on the yelp thread
― flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
Like Robbe-Grillet, but with more of an emotional payoff.
― "marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
Here's the thing about that: When you write steadily for 40-plus years, you get good at it.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 10 March 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
Clowning on the style/content of writing like this: totally coolClowning on this particular review with friends/on a message board: fineClowning on the review in a professional-level forum: douchey as fuck
It's just one of those core comedy rules: if you're picking on someone who's perceived as having less power than yourself, chances are good that it's gonna come off to a lot of people as bullying.
― Trying To Do A ‘Gotcha’ Moment (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
Possibly because it's bullying.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
It is, but the fact that this shit is being published/posted indicates that some people aren't perceiving it as such or just don't care if they are.
― Trying To Do A ‘Gotcha’ Moment (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
Shee-it. I read that review. It seemed perfectly competant and suitable for the town where it took place and the audience it was aimed at. If you don't know anything about middling-small towns, then all that means is you've stumbled across your own ignorance, not that this review was anything odd or weird.
― Aimless, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
ppl being entertained by the most mundane things, even off the "all time" comedy films thread
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
I think the horse is dead, Morbs, you can put the stick down.
― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
saw it move
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
Ta-da:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/for-a-professional-midwest-palate-a-first-taste-of-a-dirty-water-dog/?src=tp
She was flummoxed, though, by a bilingual sign on the cart in Arabic and English that said “Halal food.”“I don’t know what that is,” she said.The concept was explained.“I’m Lutheran,” she said, “so that wouldn’t apply to me.”
“I don’t know what that is,” she said.
The concept was explained.
“I’m Lutheran,” she said, “so that wouldn’t apply to me.”
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
Ms. Hagerty promised to revisit Mr. Abdelbaky’s cart on her next trip to New York. And she said she was looking forward to dinner at the Times Square location of the Olive Garden on Thursday.
“It will be, shall I say, interesting to see if it’s any different,” she said. “It’s pleasant to dine at the Olive Garden.”
Ok this woman has an awesome sense of humor.
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
Hell yes.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
So now what, a book deal? A food network show? How does this shake out?
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
I would pay money to have her roast Guy Fieri et al over a slow fire. In her understated way.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
i don't get why this is a thing but that kevin hoffman dude is a dick and i am gonna follow this story vaguely in the hope that he gets his comeuppance
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah he kind of needs to be fired
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
It made the WSJ.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
The highest honor:
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/HC-GQ603_Hagert_BV_20120312172702.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
I completely agree, he was so obnoxious and condescending.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
His condescension strikes me a as narcissism of small differences kinda thing, tbh.
― ryan, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
What I like about Marilyn: She appears to have managed to sustain a successful career in journalism without either being laid off or getting burned out, something which I gather is really at the heart of alt press's contempt. She also seems like she would be a lot of fun to eat with, provided the food doesn't get in the way.
What I don't like about her: The sense that a meal with her could turn out to be a live reenactment of this. In an article about the News Room (in Mpls.), she referred to some of the clientele as "swishy." Just like everyone else, I only tolerate homophobia in my own grandparents and no one else from their generation.
What I don't like about this thread: "Why is that it's always people from the midwest who seem most intent on making fun of rubes? It's like, dude, you're in Minneapolis." (Oh hey, check out the dateline on that Onion article!)
― Eric H., Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
Also, playing attack dog on all other local media is sort of KH's beat.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
(Not defending at all. Just explaining.)
he also seems like she would be a lot of fun to eat with, provided the dining room has a fireplace.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
She appears to have managed to sustain a successful career in journalism without either being laid off or getting burned out, something which I gather is really at the heart of alt press's contempt.
??? huh ???
― max, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
ya when i read that article and contemplated her long, persistent career, it just made me so fucking mad
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
there's a local writer around here who definitely proves that isn't true. i've read some pretty terrible 40+ year writers
― Mordy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
places like Columbus, Ohio where chain establishments filled the year-end best-of lists without fail.
Just FYI, I've lived in Columbus for most of my life, and I don't think that this has ever been true. Maybe it doesn't matter, but it's not accurate.
― J, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
alt press = little job security and rarely paid well
Marilyn = I get to write about Taco Bell and keep this job for my whole life
― Eric H., Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
(But that may admittedly be projecting my own bad faith from my limited experience with the local alt.)
― Eric H., Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
Xxp http://www.columbusalive.com/content/topic/best-of-columbus/2011.html
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
ime (worked at an alt-weekly for a long time) there's almost TOO MUCH job security there... people get kind of old in those jobs all of the sudden
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ being jealous of someone who reviews the olive garden for a newspaper in north dakota
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
I'm insanely jealous of people of all shapes, sizes, ages and levels of stupidity.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
TROOF
― Alan Hale's Corn Casserole Recipe (Family Circle, June 1976) (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think this is so much about jealousy.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
i was talking about eric, or what eric posted, if that's a c/p, i couldn't totally tell
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
yes i am agreeing with you.
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
has anyone here eaten at an Olive Garden recently
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
I thought this was funny when Best Music Writing tweeted the link and said that every year they had to read a lot of music reviews with that kind of flat, affectless prose, but the idea of it becoming a viral and something that some snarky prick would phone up and patronise her about just makes me feel bad about being amused in the first place. Yet again, I find myself hating the internet.
I like the idea of Ernest Hemingway, restaurant critic though.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
this conversation covers the response AND the quality of olive garden food pretty well
http://www.theawl.com/2012/03/our-week-with-marilyn
― max, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:42 (twelve years ago) link