srsly, it's on the level of the "Comedy = tragedy + time" bit in Crimes & Misdemeanors, self xpost
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 12 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
love the awesome undercurrent of blame for not doing our part to grow the economy
― j., Monday, 12 March 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
that thing was the dumbest fucking thing i've read in a long time. made the go nowhere kids seem like the smartest people on earth not to move anywhere near that guy.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
i think rush limbaugh actually ghost-wrote that thing.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
its the first time i ever wanted to find the comments thing just so i could write FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE but i wasn't logged in or something or they weren't taking comments.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
I know this is done and done already, but this post is awesome: http://fuckyournoguchicoffeetable.tumblr.com/post/19119585575/ btw
― s.clover, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
also, no wonder this guy is a dipshit -- he's a pop-economist: http://www.toddbuchholz.com/about
― s.clover, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
this is all i really need to know:
"A former director of economic policy at the White House"
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
but he's really good at predicting when things will turn into shit! i guess that's nice. good job!
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
For about $200, young Nevadans who face a statewide 13 percent jobless rate can hop a Greyhound bus to North Dakota, where they’ll find a welcome sign and a 3.3 percent rate.
sounds like an euler argument
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
and is a co-producer of the Broadway smash “Jersey Boys.”
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
Victoria Buchholz, a student at Cambridge University, is at work on a book about the neuropsychology of the teenage brain.
will she finally crack the code???
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
for the price of leaving behind their families, friends, social connections, loved ones, young Nevadans who face a statewide 13 percent jobless rate can hop a Greyhound bus to North Dakota, but they're too busy reading facebook. bummer.
― Mordy, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
WHAT IF THEY HAD LEFT JERSEY? THEY HARDLY WOULD HAVE BEEN JERSEY BOYS, RIGHT? THEY STRUGGLED UNTIL THEY MET JOE PESCI AND THE REST IS HISTORY YOU ASSHOLE. IF THEY HAD LEFT JERSEY THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE FUCKING MET JOE PESCI!
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
sorry.
oh my god that is the actual stupidest thing thats ever been written
― max, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
Why wouldn't a young person not want to go to North Dakota? You could hang out with Marilyn Hagerty.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
lol i googled todd g. buchholz and google is telling me that his personal site 'may be compromised.'
that's what you get for fucking with kids in their parents' basements amirite
― mookieproof, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
that guy should definitely move to north dakota. and stay there.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like the new york times is totally trying to make me move out of this COUNTRY these days. is it just me? i like where i live! stop making me sick about this friggin' place, nyt! i beg of you. i just have to stop looking at it entirely.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
was reading an article about supermax prisons and solitary confinement and here's the conclusion that prison officials and the new york times came up with: 23 hours of solitary confinement in a prison cell for months at a time might not be the greatest idea. this is 2012, right? is everyone on the planet this friggin' slow? i find it hard to believe. where do all the smart people live? gonna go get a passport, brb...
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
There is not enough alcohol in the world for me to write a rebuttal of that article, but this
Why are young people not crossing borders? “This generation is going through an economic reset,” said John Della Volpe, who directs polling at Harvard’s Institute of Politics, which surveys thousands of young people each year. He reports that young people want to stay more connected with their hometowns: “I spoke with a kid from Columbus, Ohio, who dreamed of being a high school teacher. When he found out he’d have to move to Arizona or the Sunbelt, he took a job in a Columbus tire factory.”
...is something people have been saying about poor inner-city (read: black) people for a long time. "Why don't they move to the country, where it's cheaper to live/poor people could have gardens if they were willing to work in them/there are ill-paying manufacturing (or farming, or etc) jobs in the middle of nowhere?" Because when you only survive by your known support system, you cannot afford to leave it. Who helps you with child care when you don't know anyone? No one. Who loans you $50 until payday when you're new in town and have no extended family? No one. Who feeds you when your kids are hungry? No one. How do you move to and work in a place that requires a car when you have poor credit and no license? How completely alone will you be when no one around you shares or respects your culture/heritage? And so on.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
that's not how the PILGRIMS saw it
― j., Monday, 12 March 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
the pilgrims starved to death and died of frostbite i think. they were morons.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
they relied on the red man to get by until payday.
essentially the article's view of human beings is that they're totally labor. it's a vision that completely eliminates the family, community, neighborhood, etc. everyone is just a body for the factory so it might as well move itself to where the factories are and if it doesn't, it isn't doing its job for capitalism. fuck this idea forever.
― Mordy, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
the recession would be solved if everybody would just move to north dakota
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
people in north dakota just stand around and close their eyes and pretend they live in arizona, don't they?
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
water capital flows downhill. why aren't ppl more like that? if money is speech, and also time, then ppl must be going downhill too
― mookieproof, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
you should get the death penalty for exceptionally vapid and ignorant op-ed pieces like cmon
― Lamp, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
how many young people from north dakota leave that state every year and never go back? probably a lot! he should have written about them. they are the new pioneers.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda like it in that it puts down on paper what a lot of dumb people are thinking but haven't been able to clearly express, so it's sorta useful almost. 'there have been no structural changes in the american economy since I was a child! kids just haven't listened to 'born to run' enough!'
― iatee, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
btw peace corps volunteer #s are highest in 40 yrs
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
also a lot of states have raised the driving age to 18
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
okay, to be fair, north dakota population is rising slowly to 1930 levels:
1870 2,405
—
1880 36,909
1,434.7%
1890 190,983
417.4%
1900 319,146
67.1%
1910 577,056
80.8%
1920 646,872
12.1%
1930 680,845
5.3%
1940 641,935
−5.7%
1950 619,636
−3.5%
1960 632,446
2.1%
1970 617,761
−2.3%
1980 652,717
5.7%
1990 638,800
−2.1%
2000 642,200
0.5%
2010 672,591
4.7%
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
ppl's ability to construct a narrative that absolves them from any responsibility or need to think systemically is p amazing
― Lamp, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
and the reason, apparently, for the rise in north dakota population is the "oil-shale field" boom. which sounds lovely.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
as paul krugman mentioned in some blog post the other day, the # of new jobs created in california since 2009 > the entire adult population of north dakota
― iatee, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
it also sounds like something that young people SHOULD be flocking to. the oil-shale fields of north dakota.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol oil projects arent really huge job creators
― Lamp, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
^^ the words of a guy who doesn't like tom joad
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think I did the math when I was having this argument w/ euler but the amount of people who need to move to north dakota to turn 3% unemployment to 8% is really *not that many*
― iatee, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
this guy actually worked in the white house. doing stuff there. this is a government think tank brain trust economist from harvard. he gets paid money to think. and he runs a zillion dollar hedge fund. there is nothing he can't do.
― scott seward, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i was gonna say, doesn't take much to boost numbers in ND.
nbd, nd has ~27% as many ppl as live in brooklyn
― mookieproof, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
those ppl are all fucking slack-ass hipsters tho, so
if we make north dakota the new williamsburg we can solve a lot of problems
― iatee, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
'oh yeah I work in the oil fields as a freelancer, starting my own band of miners'
what's really amazing is that someone at the NYT thought that this poorly-thought-out grab-bag of lazy, smug opinions was actually worth publishing. the NYT used to be known as "the paper of record," wasn't it? does this shit reflect staffers' opinions about allegedly shiftless young 'uns, were they blown away by this jackass's "impressive" credentials?!? God help us in either case.
― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Monday, 12 March 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
is north dakota ready for orthodox brooklyn jews? well they'd better be, because that's where the action is in 2012
― mookieproof, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link