Is there not yet a thread for DRIVE, the forthcoming Ryan Gosling vehicle (geddit)?

Here's a cheat sheet for the video project:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_River#Filming_location

I am typing this about 30 feet from the LA river, are you amazed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDEbj3ve8Ds

ohhh right that part

xps

we should have an LA River youtube/photo thread

http://vimeo.com/14701473

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OS8HFuyWKg

ust this sense that the director has seldom been around human beings

one of the most interesting things abt the movie, imo

He makes movies about male humans who don't interact with society in any sort of normal way, really

I mean, of the English language ones I've seen and Valhalla Rising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqJ3iGBdOo

He makes movies about male humans who don't interact with society in any sort of normal way, really

innocent, alienated, "natural" men who exist in but apart from civilized corruption, their brutality and simplicity a badge of their superiority. again, i see something troubling in this (i think i called it "quasi-fascist" upthread - that's overreaching and far too condemnatory), but the troubling-ness is of an interesting sort. valhalla rising is especially challenging in this regard, given its odinist/anti-christian sympathies and the way they intersect with the isolationist black metal that seems to have inspired it.

innocent, alienated, "natural" men who exist in but apart from civilized corruption, their brutality and simplicity a badge of their superiority

Bronson as role model?

I don't think it holds it up as an ideal as much as Bronson films generally did, nor as much as recent Mamet. There's an element of Taxi Driver wish-fulfillment here, as has been mentioned upthread. I just think of the look on Gosling's face after the elevator beat-down...confused, embarrassed, like a little boy.

No, I mean Refn's film Bronson

oh right. lol.

it works either way though

Bronson as role model?

"role model" isn't the phrase i'd use. i'd instead call it "hero worship". refn's recent films are animated by an intense and abject kind of hero worship. the worship has elements of both son-in-relation-to-father (made explicit in both drive and valhalla rising) and sub-in-relation-to-dom, with all the intense eroticism former implies (made most explicit in bronson). the hero doesn't have to be morally "good" because his transgressions and power are what make him compelling. again evokes the allure of fascism...

I mostly disagree with this take although I find it somewhat entertaining

mission accomplished

http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bush-mission-accomplished.jpg

^ or rather

the hero doesn't have to be morally "good" because his transgressions and power are what make him compelling.

this applies most obviously to bronson. both valhalla rising and drive go out of their way to emphasize the hero's basic decency. though scary, simple and brutal, these men are painted as morally superior to their peers. it's important to note though that, like bronson, their guiding principles are personal, "natural" and often strongly at odds with the expectations of civilized society. with this in mind, it's interesting that one eye and driver are both explicitly associated with animals, and that both movies strongly idealize nature as an environment for man.

Finally saw this at a late screening last night and found it to be a very enjoyable, incredibly well made, beautifully stylised very bad film. If that quote from Refn about archetypes is anything to go by, I think that was the point.

Also the bit at the end where Real Hero kicks in felt like an ironic nod to the audience because there is obviously nothing at ALL real about Ryan Gosling's character.

^ definitely an ironic nod

going to see 'bronson' later today at prob the same refn retrospective where you saw 'drive' last night, i'm guessing (nw film center in pdx?)

no idea what to expect, the previews make it seem like a guy ritchie flick or smthg but i'm expecting more. or else i wouldn't waste my $

its like if guy ritchie and john cameron mitchell made a movie together but it was awesome

such an unpleasant movie

Sooo not like a Guy Ritchie film.

k, that's what i wanted to hear. if i judged movies solely based on their previews i doubt i'd see any movies. ever.

Except for ones where the directors cut the trailers! David Fincher and Ridley Scott seem to do ok.

and jean-luc godard.

and kitano takeshi -- check out the trailer for boiling point on the youtubes.

http://realhero.ytmnd.com/

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x-post - I LOVE that song. The whole soundtrack is pretty great.

I'm really into the apartment bathroom tile in the movie but surprisingly there's no tumblr for it ;_;

a re-al-human-being and a re-al-hero. who else has had this song going through their head for 10 straight hours?

[raises hand]

well, for at least 10 hours after seeing the film. but that was a while back.

Yup.

I love that song. It does get stuck in my head a lot but I also listen to it a lot on purpose.

I don't really like that song. but the Kavinsky one was cool.

sometimes it comes up on my ipod when i'm driving at night and it's awesome /cliche

it is a great song. never minded having it stuck in my head.

i get the chromatics song stuck in my head when i'm driving at night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWD7k6TrJ-g

imo just make a cd that is that track repeated until the cd stops and then glue it into your car's cd player

This film shouldn't have been called "Drive", it should have been called "Gormlessly Smirking At Each Other And Doing Fuck All Else" is what it should have been called.

Not enough driving, not enough Christina Hendricks, not enough ANYTHING in this movie. Just vacant gazing. Ryan Gosling's too young and too pretty to pull off the silent Steve McQueen type. Carey Mulligan's a good actress, but she's a rosie-cheeked meatsack with nice eyelashes in this. Why have two main characters whose default personality setting is switched to "off"?

Somehow I didn't find the violent bits at all shocking, only in retrospect and reading through this thread did I think "Oh yeah, they did shoot someone through the side of the head", but I've become so desensitised to this kind of on-screen gore through films and video games that it doesn't register any more.

Slickly produced? If "slick" translates as "devoid of any emotional impact + garish pink fonts lifted from an early-'90s teen comedy", fair enough.

Hot Seats, Cool Beats

Loved Bronson though...

Also, anyone else notice that bit where Perlman gets knocked off the cliff is eerily similar to Guillermo del toro's 'Cronos', also starring him?