Jack White - Blunderbuss

That's actually the second single, "Love Interruption" was the first one.

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Third Man is doing some interesting shit imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoIcNykCc0

(recently, they released a 3RPM record....3!)

ben! one of the dirtbombs' drummers!

i heard a song and it sounded a lot like the white stripes

given how much i loved the white stripes between their early singles and elephant, i'm kind of stunned at how little the subsequent j white stuff has interested me. i mean, i dig "steady as she goes" and half-like that album he produced for loretta lynn, but that's about it.

this new stuff is dull as dirt

A friend's band did that same thing at a recent 7" release party, of course they only tied one to a balloon and it released to the air over South Minneapolis. Never heard if it was discovered or not.

I have no memory of what the new songs he played on SNL sounded like even though I watched both.

I love plenty of stuff from ever White Stripes album, Icky Thump possibly being my 2nd favorite behind DeStijl, bt the new singles just haven't clicked. For music he claims he couldn't imagine releasing under anything other than his own name, they seem pretty superfluous.

I was hoping I might sit up and take notice with this new stuff but it just sounds kinda samey.

Icky Thump was pretty good, I still think "You Don't Know What Love Is" might be one of the best songs he's written. I really liked what he did with the Raconteurs on their second album too.

I was hoping for more, but maybe he just doesn't have it in him? It's kind of a bummer.

He always goes on and on about the simplicity of early blues, and in "It Might Get Loud" he plays that Son House track that's just a capella and claims it's his favorite song ever. Then he goes off and NEVER makes the quiet rustic soulful record you expect him to. Maybe he's just saving all that shit for when he's 70?

Yeah I definitely don't feel like he's yet making the music that's truly *in* him.

He needs to like, lose all his money and get dumped by his wife or something...

Yeah I definitely don't feel like he's yet making the music that's truly *in* him.

Maybe? Jack White has already struck me as a bit of a phony anyway. I mean, I like a lot of his stuff and I think what they're doing at Third Man is really cool for the most part (Black Belles are/were terrible, though). But he seems really calculating almost all the time and never direct about anything.

already=always

didn't he already get dumped by his wife? and with things like the balloon stunt, he'll probably be broke soon.
i can't quite figure out why everything this dude does inspires an eye-roll from me.

1000 flexis tied to 1000 balloons shouldn't break him, I wouldn't think. Total cost of operation is probably about $500.

there's something about him that keeps me at least coming back out of curiosity. After he hooked me in with De Stijl I could never justify completely dismissing him. There's *something* there. It's just not there all the time, lol

i really don't think he's a phony, not at all

i don't either. i think he's rather reticent and that he hides behind mannerisms, but that doesn't make one fake, i don't think.

he is 'authenticity'/analog-loving rockism personified and his music is appropriately boring most of the time, some good stuff in there once in a while tho

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/magazine/jack-white-is-the-savviest-rock-star-of-our-time.html?pagewanted=all

worth reading

imo

there are some hilarious bits in that, but ugh @ every sentence of this:

It’s easy to overlook amid the stylistic trappings, but White is a virtuoso — possibly the greatest guitarist of his generation. His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide. That he does it with such self-imposed constraints — for instance, his favorite guitar in the White Stripes was made of plastic and came from Montgomery Ward — makes it all the more impressive.

the line about why aren't kids building model steamboats made me lol

His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide.

Actually I think this sentence is fine, its the ones bookending it that are steaming piles of o_O

oh my fuckin' god @ that quote

jesus christ is this the new york times or guitar player

^haha otm.

Talented dude, sure, but what a pretentious twat in that interview. Too bad.

"i can't quite figure out why everything this dude does inspires an eye-roll from me." - tylerw

Dead on. My guess is because every gesture he makes at being 'authentic' and storying himself as 'Unique Artist' is marred by his (apparently very intentional) framing of himself as a macho guitar god. That, and he apparently buys way too into his own bullshit.

I thought the 90s finally lifted the veil on this kinda crap. 'Coolest'? 'Rock Star'? Jesus Christ.

I heard David Bowie once said that he didn't really love rock music, but it was an easy way to make money.
I don't know Jack White, but he seems sort of like a snake oil salesman to me.
Sure there's some talent, but there's a lot of marketing going on as well.
I have zero problem with this. Musicians should do everything they can to get their own.

"possibly the greatest x" = code for "I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm gonna say it anyway"

also the writer makes it sound like playing on a *plastic guitar from montgomery ward* or w/e is the equivalent of having three fingers like Django

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that

plus he was doing music with some older dude and working at an apolstery shop and shit...

like he's definitely got a concocted image, but hell the band named an album De Stijl and had an official color scheme and shit (which is actually one of the really awesome things about the White Stripes)

are Airlines a bitch to play or something? i know they got a lot more valuable on the used market after Jack made them a thing

i can't imagine that they're particularly hard to play when set up properly. it was the 60s, not the stone age.

I felt like I was reading something from an interior design magazine...I mean, I know it's kind of a unique design and all and he has always had a deliberate aesthetic (though the yellow/black fixation was kind of an interesting oddity)

He's kind of an interesting guy when he talks at lengt, I think.

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

that was all done by 2001.

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

I wonder what the White Stripes/Jack White legacy would be if he had stopped completely after the first 3 albums.

just slightly better than every other garage band that peaked in 2001?

they'd probably reform to play Cavestomp

followed by a reunion tour with The Go and a repentant Mooney Suzuki, who disavow their Matrix collaboration

good lord that is a period of my music fandom career that i do not miss

incidentally it didn't occur to me until the article noted his age that White is only 36 and that i am kind of jealous of how much he's accomplished.

;_; Mooney Suzuki

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that...

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

― some dude, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:01 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:05 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:06 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i have no regrets about rock fandom in the late 90s & early 00s. great time to be going out to see underattended punk shows in sleazy dives.

so this is out there new, getting now.

new

Tracklist:

01. Missing Pieces 3:27
02. Sixteen Saltines 2:37
03. Freedom At 21 2:51
04. Love Interruption 2:38
05. Blunderbuss 3:06
06. Hypocritical Kiss 2:50
07. Weep Themselves To Sleep 4:19
08. I’m Shakin’ 3:00
09. Trash Tongue Talker 3:20
10. Hip (Eponymous) Poor Boy 3:03
11. I Guess I Should Go To Sleep 2:37
12. On And On And On 3:55
13. Take Me With You When You Go 4:10

Release date: 24 april 2012

"Only my hand hewn wooden albums. I trust NOTHING ELSE."

"based on the gospel vibe and organ riff, i was hoping for a funk/soul blowout at the end. no such luck."

lol!

oh man, Auerbach is going through a divorce right now too. still copying Jack White's every move!

aw, i couldn't find the snl chris evert/martina sketch. my fave.

lol just watched it, forgot it escalates to the point that when evert writes her autobiography martina decides to write a chris evert bio that outsells it

anyhow sorry guys black keys are fucking awful, can't figure out why you dudes love them so much

literally nobody on this thread has defended the Black Keys, so i assume you're joking?

i don't care about them

i do like the white stripes

I went through much of the 00s not really knowing what to think of the Stripes, but the Black Keys kind of put it all in perspective.

the names of the bands even, its all right in front of yr noses

They should form a two guitar, two drum supergroup called The Black and White Keys.

Also, they are both from the midwest. Think about it.

they both use guitars

!

Also, Jack White is white, while Dan Auerbach's last name soooorta rhymes with black, and he is in the Black Keys. But he is also white!!!

i don't think i hate the black keys. i definitely hate jack white. the black keys are definitely easy to avoid. jack white less so if you go into record stores which i do.

is he in them often?

'haha you call the NM be srs bro' --jack white

Jack White is this millennium's Brian Setzer. Dunno what that makes Auerbach...were there bands that had a beef against the Stray Cats?

no i meant they play his stuff in record stores because apparently the people who work in record stores want me to commit suicide.

the blasters probably said mean things about the stray cats. robert gordon probably sneered at them too. who knows.

I feel for any father in a divorce/custody case,

but I mostly only care about myself, so I wish he would put out another album.

"Then don't judge bro"

ha! what use do we have for the internet then?

i can understand why people wouldn't like the white stripes but for all their admitted influences they had a pretty unique aesthetic, and i'd say jack did a lot in pointing kids towards a bunch of old blues artists they wouldn't otherwise have discovered. the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

I have almost zero use for The Black Keys, but I've been told by Nashville friends that Carney, the drummer, is a nice dude and Auerbach treats him like crap (he actually treats everyone like crap, but that includes Carney).

afaic Jack White and Dan Auerbach should just activate their Wonder Twin powers and form of a giant rectum.

Jack White = Dave Bartram
Dan Auerbach = Shakin' Stevens

Miriam Linna = that woman from Darts

those 3 comparisons make everything clear to me

the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

― There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait, seriously? what year was that, i gotta find that shit on youtube

2004, I think? I walked out almost immediately.

Am willing to assert that El Camino is a better record than White has made for years.

U R NUTS

I think we just need Greg Ginn involved somehow via his own lawsuits and any bands with Black in the name and the resultant paste will be a court-enforced supergroup of Ginn, Rollins, Morris, White and Auerbach that has tour calling themselves the Grey Bears.

haven't heard el camino, but despite my better judgment, i do quite like "lonely boy". every else about the black keys is a drag tho.

everything else, that is

If we're gonna take sides on which one of these guys is less of a tool, Auerbach's "dance for me, roots music legend, dance for me" Dr. John album was a lot better than White's Wanda Jackson album.

i don't mind the first two black keys records, they are decent for fuzzy white-dude blues stuff. everything jack white has ever done kinda makes my skin crawl.

Yeah, don't listen to Black Keys, but i don't find them annoying, either. Jack White seems like he's trying to be annoying on purpose, which is even more annoying.

My dream project: Jack White producing and playing on an Alicia Keys album.

That sounds OK, except for the Jack White part.

yeah i'll stand by the black keys for a couple albums, they kinda lost me around magic potion but rubber factory is pretty great, and the first one is too.

There's some White Stripes stuff that I genuinely like, but I haven't bothered to check out White's side projects or solo stuff. He really does seem to be pretty humourless and dour - which seems at odds with all his theatrics, costumes, gimmicks, and publicity stunts. I kind of liked the White Stripes' having a concept and a self-conscious myth-making made-up backstory. I know that stuff isn't in fashion - but when the White Stripes first popped up, I thought it was cool to see someone pull together so fully-formed - like the Ramones or Devo or KISS or the NY Dolls. But those bands were funny - and a little creepy and nuts - and it worked for them (at least for awhile). I think Jack White tried to create his own private world like those bands, but it ended up too precious and pretentious and closed-off to be all that interesting. Also, not enough good rocking tunes.

so no talk about the new album Lazaretto? i actually had no idea there was a new one until today. reading ILM too much, lol.

He was just on the cover of Rolling Stone...

"Feel like he's still got a lot of artifice in his songwriting that he needs to get rid of. He feels too self conscious still or soemthing, like he's trying to prove something with his songs. I think if that ever goes away and he writes from the heart he'll be incredible."

This. Although I only think it's a problem when the tempo or volume drops. When its black math or rag and bone, it seems totally undeniable.