Rolling like tumble weed Afro-Latin music thread 2012 (salsa, cumbia, reggaeton, tribal guarachero, etc.)

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actually i heard a song on the radio today that was so fast that it made me kinda nauseated to listen to it -- i don't remember much about the song aside from "mueve mueve mueve te" and the fact that i disliked it

ALSO

this is more folk latin music than dance latin music, but the lomax archives have put up full songs and i have really been enjoying the Dominican Republic 1967 recordings a lot. Stream here: http://research.culturalequity.org/get-audio-ix.do?ix=recording&id=10304&idType=sessionId&sortBy=abc

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

actually i heard a song on the radio today that was so fast that it made me kinda nauseated to listen to it -- i don't remember much about the song aside from "mueve mueve mueve te" and the fact that i disliked it

Oddly, I think I might know the song just from that sketchy description (except I don't know the song title or artist--but it sounds like something folded into one of the tribal guarachero mixes I have).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

What is that type of music so I can avoid it? It was awful!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly the last time I had an almost allergic reaction to a piece of music was when I heard "Put a Donk on It"
Usually I am very open minded and will listen to almost anything once.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know what type of music I'd call that song. I'm not 100% sure it's the same song, because it doesn't seem that extremely fast, but it's kind of fast and I can see how it could make someone sick.

And the problem with looking for a song with the words "mueve te" is, well, pretty obvious.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

of course

if i have the misfortune to hear it again i'll make sure to remember more about the lyrics !!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

i can only think of a reggaeton mueve te

fauxmarc, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

good luck searching for a song called mueve te! Too fast can be good though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agky60Ae3vI

Marcomarcos, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

I don't want to ever hear it again tbh, so I don't plan on searching for it!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Orlando Marín, Puerto Rican timbale player and bandleader (who once played with Eddie Palmieri) is still performing as I just read a mention of his Wednesday night the 21st gig in a Ned Sublette email. He supposedly will have a big band with him--Doors / DJ 6:30, 1st set at 8. The Crystal Ballroom at Taíno Towers, 123rd near 2nd. South side of 123rd, entrance by where it says "Harlem Prep Charter School." Elevator to the 4th floor. Ned says the following Wednesday it's charanga night feat. Orq. Broadway with Eddie Zervigón.

He was entertaining when I saw him down here in Arlington, VA years ago.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

Wondering if I should do last-minute listening and reading about Rakim y Ken-y who are gonna be in Maryland Friday night. Toying with writing a "reggaeton's not dead" blogpost. Although maybe it is.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

I heard yesterday that Chocolate, I mean the trumpeter Alfredo "Chocolate" Armenteros, was ill. Get well soon Chocolate!

Radio Boradman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

xp, Mi Corazon Esta Muerto is brilliant. Commercially, reggaeton seems to be in fairly decent health.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I just seem to hear so much bachata and so little reggaeton on my commercial Latin radio station. Reggaeton's brief flashes of crossover attention (Daddy Yankee hit and critical attention from Sasha Frere Jones in the New Yorker and others) seem so long ago.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

That's interesting. People like Romeo Santos and Prince Royce appear to have a much lower profile in Europe than, for example, Daddy Yankee, Don Omar, Calle 13, Farruko and a few others. From what i see of the South American charts, PR acts still seem to have a lot of sway. Probably different for North / Central America, though. I should listen to a bit more bachata.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair the evolution of reggaeton got progressively worse over the past few years, what comes out nowadays seems to be strictly throwaway sing-songy auto-tune bs instead of the dirty playero y nelson-era beats

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

email with a pictured flyer I just received from a Hispanic danceclub in Woodbridge Virginia, south of Washington DC, says in part:

Jueves: Bachateros y Perreo Ladies Night

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

Got busy with family stuff last night, so I wasn't able to do my Rakim y Ken-y recent tracks research I wanted to do

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Plus, there are these other weekend gigs I am curious about:

Maracuyeah Presents: Kali Mutsa- Chilean pop gypsy electronica at Marx Cafe on Saturday and

on Sun. Mar. 25

Huey Dunbar at the Salsa Room --This early 2000s (?) vocalist star from DLG still melds salsa & r’n’b, right? I liked DLG

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

http://cacoteo.com/new/videos/rakim-y-ken-y-live-bravo-bravo-washington-d-c-rkmykeny-marcelocx_ipaut/

reggaeton live in a club

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:52 (twelve years ago) link

fyi from a publicist's email:

Waxploitation Records and ZZK Records have announced they’ll be releasing a new project entitled Future Sounds of Buenos Aires. FSOBA is a collaboration featuring some of the most compelling artists emerging from Buenos Aires’ electronic underground including Mati Zundel, Fauna, Super Guachin and Chancha Via Circuito to name a few (complete track list below). To celebrate the release, Waxploitation/ZZK have made a Megamix of the album available for download and stream, premiering the mix at XLR8R.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Oscar D'Leon is touring again. He's gonna be in the W. DC area in May. His Venezuelan salsa may not be relevant to current trends, he is in his late 60s, he had a heart attack a few years back, but the guy and his band still put on a great live show no matter what

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

This was an EMP presentation by Blanca Mendez

Entitled "Tijuana Makes Some Noise: Ruidoson as a Response and Resistance to Violence in Baja California's Largest City,” the paper will explore the ruidoson sound, including the cultural and political climate out of which ruidoson was born, and the importance of the genre in moving Tijuana forward musically. It will also include the musings of Tony Gallardo, aka María y José, who of course is a crazy person and should provide the GREATEST INSIGHT EVER.
from clubfonograma.com

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/2012/03/22/149014932/kickin-it-old-school-music-we-love-that-isnt-latin-rock

I wish NPR's Alt-Latino show would always feature the variety of artists that they did in this program (mostly all big well-known names, but it's more than their standard offerings)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://thelatinalternative.com/affiliates/

new syndicated radio show with blog hosted by longtime writer Ernesto Lechner

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

Following up on that EMP blurb, this is definitely okay by me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnwWKC6l3lM

It would be awesome if every major Mexican city would spawn its own new twist on electronic dance music. These two youtube clips seem to show ruidoson overlapping considerably with 3ball though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCtPzGPIG_M

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

I looked around on intranetz for Oscar D'Leon dates in NYC but couldn't find it. Then tonight I was walking down Roosevelt Avenue and saw a big sign- May 4 at, of course, La Boom.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link

A little disappointed that he long ago stopped playing bass on stage.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

Although video I am watching shows that he does play it now and then during the show.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

So Queens, NY is where it is at. You should consider going.

http://laboomny.com/

curmudgeon, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, thanks. I drive by that place all the time but have yet to go in there. This may be the first time.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder if events there get any crossover attention from NY critics and bloggers?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

Not really.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

That's what I thought.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 1 April 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Truth be told, the last time I found out about any Latin-type gig from the media was when I went to see Soda Stereo at the Palladium in the 90s.

Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

la boom gets constant acts coming thru across all sorts of cumbia/salsa/bachata, i never checked it out when i lived nearby tho as most shows i'd check off of youtube were chock full of screaming youngins

fauxmarc, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, when I looked at the youtubes over the weekend I thought: "sure is crowded."

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 April 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

Screamin youngins, stay off of my lawn and away from my salsa gigs!

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

My curvy Colombian friend laughs at the mere mention of the place, but I've never asked him why.

By the way, if deej and the Reverend are reading I owe them an apology for something in the 2008 thread. I asked John Benitez yesterday "Did you ever teach somebody the clave in 11?" and he said "yup, and I got one in 13 too."

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

When I saw La India, Willie Colon, Oscar D'Leon, El Gran Combo, Tito Rojas and others over the years at Latin clubs (with the gigs advertised only towards the Hispanic audience) in the W. DC area, the shows were always packed, the age range varied, and the gigs always started real late. They were also very enjoyable. If you are a great salsa dancer there is not much room to move around, but for me it was ok.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm only on the second track but this stuff sounds pretty good:

http://www.reverbnation.com/josenovoa

From this descarga.com lead:

http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/24735.10?vszShMov;;394

(Add gratuitous comment about no longer being able to afford to buy CDs, and likely violent worldwide social upheaval and ecological disaster worldwide in the not too distant future.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

This one particularly, I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VhZAewnreA

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

I hope to get out dancing again before The World As We Know It ends.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 7 April 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

Uh oh, Victor Manuelle guests on it.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

New Yorkers:

http://www.latinclubs.com/nythisweek.html

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

This used to be a great listing for Latin Jazz gigs all over but I guess he couldn't keep it up http://www.chipboaz.com/blog/live-latin-jazz/

MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 April 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Speaking of Latin jazz in NYC. Writers Ned Sublette and Larry Blumenfeld like Cuban born jazz sax player Yosvany Terry whose new cd “Today's Opinion” (Criss Cross) is coming out very shortly

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303302504577325690597585870.html?KEYWORDS=yosvany+terry

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
April 6, 2012

Playing to the Rhythm of Two Islands
Cuban Saxophonist Yosvany Terry Integrates the Music of His Youth and Jazz

By LARRY BLUMENFELD

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

What about his brother Yunior?

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

You can see a picture of Yosvany with Tom Guarna and Manuel Valera performing at Manuel's monthly gig here http://www.terrazacafe.org/

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

x-post -His brother is still playing with him. On Ned's email he pasted the whole Wall Street Journal article. Here's more of Blumenfeld's article:

In 2000, Mr. Terry began leading a Jazz Gallery series featuring players including drummer Dafnis Prieto. Back in Cuba, Messrs. Terry and Prieto had been half of Columna B, a quartet of conservatory students. “That band was like a laboratory for us,” Mr. Terry said. For Mr. Prieto, “Columna B was a way to support each other. We had all this tradition, all this new information, and a desire to create.”

Mr. Terry, who started his musical studies on violin, picked up the saxophone at age 10. He began regular visits to the U.S. in 1995 through Stanford Jazz Workshop. There, he met alto saxophonist Steve Coleman, whose concepts profoundly affected his own music. Mr. Coleman also bought Mr. Terry his first ticket to New York.

Mr. Terry said drummer Jeff “Tain” Watts taught him to play slow tempos with force. Bassist Avishai Cohen urged him to pick up the chekeré again (he plays it on his new CD). During his first months in New York, Mr. Terry practiced daily with alto saxophonist Antonio Hart, who “helped me sound fluent in jazz.” He spent three years in a powerhouse quintet led by Gonzalo Rubalcaba, an eminent Cuban emigre pianist who plays keyboards on the new CD's closing track.

Mysteries underscore Mr. Terry's new compositions: some ancient and communal, like percussionist Pedro Martinez's chants, drawn from abakua, an Afro-Cuban male secret society; others new and personal, such as the numerology behind sometimes dissonant melodies. His bandmates, particularly trumpeter Michael Rodriguez and pianist Osmany Paredes, match his technical prowess and clarity.

Mr. Terry's younger brother, Yunior, the bassist in his current quintet, said: “When I got to New York, Yosvany was writing challenging jazz. I was skeptical. But once I heard it, I fell right in. It extends what we grew up with.”

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link


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