quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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A nanny can increase her marketability if she can help manage an art collection, draft correspondence, wash and fold 50 linens a day and help set up philanthropic events. Bonus points if she can do it all in Mandarin.

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

Rich people spending ridiculous amounts on ordinary services is like half the reason non-rich people can survive in NYC.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

Michelle K
Houston, TX

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We pay our nanny a $1700.00/month salary for approximately 25 hours a week. We offer her 6 sick days a year and she gets paid vacations as she does not have to work when we go on holiday with our child (i.e., Spring Break, Easter Break, two weeks in the summer, Thanksgiving and the Christmas holidays). When we have special needs, such as when my husband and I are out of town at the same time (rarely) and we need her to stay with our daughter, we always consult her schedule. Our child is in the third grade and trains in a sport five days a week so her time with her is limited (3-5 pm). She does clean our house but does not have to cook. Our child absolutely adores our nanny and we feel we are not paying for essentially a taxi/housecleaning service, we are paying for "peace of mind" and someone we respect and value as a person. It's a win-win situation for all.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Moh
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The best you can do is find a nanny or live-in Au Pair that you see eye to eye with. Otherwise, some nannies will just constantly ask for more pay, a car, more spending money, more food money, more credit cards, a computer, etc. Some basically go to the park, compare perks and then try to hold the family hostage.
Fortunately we don't have that petty of a nanny where this conversation takes place every 6 mos. Our neighbors do, and after she asked for 3 paid (flight included) vacations a year (on top of the above), they had enough and found a more reasonable nanny without an attitude.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

Damn nannies.

Jeff, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

they all look like Scarlett Johansson, right?

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

I can't take this fucking city anymore

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

How does a nanny earn more than the average pediatrician?

Um... by being the highest-paid nanny he could find for this article? I'm sure the highest-paid plumber in New York makes more than the average lawyer, and the highest-paid bus driver more than the average dentist. The tallest Asian woman in New York is taller than the average man. What of it?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

acuallly all of those people are the same person, and it's the highest paid nanny

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

that's why she's worth it tho

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

hope she has a tall bus!

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:28 (twelve years ago) link

Nannies With Attitudes

carl agatha, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link

Call it the Upcycle Bicycle lamp.

no. do not do this.

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

how is that bike lamp thing a "ruling class" agony

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Michelle K
Houston, TX

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We pay our nanny a $1700.00/month salary for approximately 25 hours a week. We offer her 6 sick days a year and she gets paid vacations as she does not have to work when we go on holiday with our child (i.e., Spring Break, Easter Break, two weeks in the summer, Thanksgiving and the Christmas holidays). When we have special needs, such as when my husband and I are out of town at the same time (rarely) and we need her to stay with our daughter, we always consult her schedule. Our child is in the third grade and trains in a sport five days a week so her time with her is limited (3-5 pm). She does clean our house but does not have to cook. Our child absolutely adores our nanny and we feel we are not paying for essentially a taxi/housecleaning service, we are paying for "peace of mind" and someone we respect and value as a person. It's a win-win situation for all.

Don't really see what's so outrageous about this one. I have a friend that did this. If both parents work someone's gotta pick up your kid when she gets out of kindergarten.

dmr, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

You mean like daycare?

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

like grandma?

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

i think it is less "these people have child care" and more "these people could buy a used car every month with the money they spend on child care"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

also "these people take a minimum of five vacations a year"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

how is that bike lamp thing a "ruling class" agony

cuz they're noguchi!

s.clover, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

that blog is still the brightest spot in my day.

s.clover, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

Don't really see what's so outrageous about this one. I have a friend that did this. If both parents work someone's gotta pick up your kid when she gets out of kindergarten.

― dmr, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:50 (48 minutes ago) Permalink

Well, I was surprised at how much they paid for PART TIME daycare, but I also just thought there were subtly funny quiddity-esque lines in the comment, like "Our child is in the third grade and trains in a sport five days a week so her time with her is limited"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

Damn those ruling class New Yorkers and their Christmas, Easter AND Thanksgiving holidays!

badg, Friday, 23 March 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i've worked through most holidays my whole life, and i've sorta chalked it up to being the lot of my shitty low-rung wage work. i feel like numerically there might be more people on my side of the fence than the other?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 23 March 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Being off school for a week" != "entire family going on holiday/vacation."

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 23 March 2012 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

"go on holiday with our child" sounds like a trip to me but i'm not particularly interested in arguing about this

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, def using the Brit version of "holiday"

mh, Friday, 23 March 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, yeah, rich kids and poor kids alike get Christmas vacation and spring break during the school year, but they are only an opportunity for the whole family to travel for one of those groups.

I only ever went somewhere for spring break once, and that was when my sister and I went to visit my dad for a week in luxurious Ft. Belvoir, VA. Ah, the joy of cramming three people into an efficiency apartment in the Bachelor Officers Quarters!

jpattzlovevampz 2 hours ago (Phil D.), Friday, 23 March 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, it's a middle class luxury for parents to be able to plan their vacation time to overlap with spring break and travel for a day or two at that time. Really, some parents just take time off during spring break so that they don't have to pay for all-day daycare or find a place to stash kids.

I say this as I look around at a partially-empty office due to all my family-having coworkers being gone

mh, Friday, 23 March 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

there is something curiously british about michelle k from houston - texans don't say "go on holiday" do they? or "trains in a sport"? i know there are a lot of houston transplants from the scottish oil industry in the north sea, maybe she's one of them

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 March 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

or she's doing the "sounding british" affectation to seem classier, which seems like an anachronism to me

mh, Friday, 23 March 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I think Madonna put the final nail in that one.

And thanks Phil D for telling me what the B in BOQ meant! My family stayed in the BOQ between giving up our apt and going back to the US when we left Germany, and I never knew what it stood for (always assumed "base").

nickn, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

nah, the perception of England as classy is pretty much over :)

mh, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

this is kinda quiddity-ish ... it doesn't occur to anyone here that maybe the young 'uns aren't into cars b/c they have no money (no job, students loans, etc).

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

As part of its “Millennial-Con,” Scratch brought in viral video stars like Sergio Flores, known as the Sexy Sax Man, a musician with a mullet and a denim jacket.

ralphs vons williams (get bent), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

Cars are still essential to drivers of all ages

this is just stupid

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

If you want to be a driver, of a car, a car is essential. OTOH if you need to get from place to place, it's a different story.

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

I, for example, drive a steamroller.

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a zamboni man myself

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link

That's why I drove a tank.

carl agatha, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

this is kinda quiddity-ish ... it doesn't occur to anyone here that maybe the young 'uns aren't into cars b/c they have no money (no job, students loans, etc).

― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Friday, March 23, 2012 7:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we already talked about this in the cars an america thread but even people w/ money can think it's a stupid use of that money.

iatee, Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Perhaps the greatest quiddity/agony headline of all time:

http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/i-regret-eating-my-placenta/

"I Regret Eating My Placenta"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

also, lol:

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i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

prestigious, $21,000-a-year Upper East Side preschool

buzza, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link


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