quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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news corp hacking obv.

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

I don't understand why they aren't just buying their kids ice cream.

beachville, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

iirc it's because they hate their kids

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

news corp hacking obv.

hahaha

dmr, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

i don't have kids, but goddamn the relentless jingle of the brooklyn ice cream trucks drive me insane

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

parents should keep their freezers well stocked with ice cream and popsicles imo

dayo, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

I don't understand why they aren't just buying their kids ice cream.

― beachville, Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Because eating ice cream sometimes makes kids OBEEEEEEEESE!!! “Nobody wants to be a crank, but one in three kids are going to be obese or diabetic by high school.”

This one is my favorite: “I should not have to fight with my children every warm day on the playground just so someone can make a living!”

Your need to earn an income is interfering with my need to have no conflict in my life!!!

carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Because eating ice cream sometimes makes kids OBEEEEEEEESE!!!

'god hates fats' - some park sloper

Lamp, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

My parents managed to not allow me to have any sweets at all between the ages of 4 and maybe 7. For the record, this was on some bizarre advice from a dentist after I had tooth decay problems (I don't think any modern dentist would give this advice), but regardless, my parents managed to have this rule for me without serious conflict.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Your need to earn an income is interfering with my need to have no conflict in my life!!!

^my favorite need

desk calendar white out (Matt P), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/magazine/puberty-before-age-10-a-new-normal.html?ref=magazine&pagewanted=all

Interesting article about early onset of puberty for girls and also sorta about the extremes that some mom's are going to halt that.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Tracee — pretty and well-put-together, wearing a burnt orange blouse that matched her necklace and her bag

buzza, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

not a quiddity, but definitely an agony of anyone who has to figure out how to react to that

buzza otm, though -- the writing in this is weird

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

She had a thick, enviable blond-streaked ponytail and big feet, like a puppy’s.

Going with the idea that puppies grow into their foot size?

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

seriously was expecting an April 1 date on that article

buzza, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

I feel really awkward for these kids but cases like this make me feel queasy because either it's a one-off for each of these kids and the cause will never be known, or some day we'll be able to point to a specific thing and they'll have the "oh, I was one of those bpa kids" thing in their story and we'll sigh collective shame as a society because we set it up for it to happen.

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

destroy capitalism

dayo, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

(Kinesiologists believe that weak muscles indicate illness, and that a patient’s muscles will test as weaker when he or she is holding a substance that contributes to health problems.)

I don't think the solution is to take your daughter to a quack, tbh

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

alternative medicine is a cancer. shout condemnation from the mountaintops.

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

I have never even heard of such a thing. Holding vials of a substance while testing..... wtf

mh, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Important to note: not a doctor.

raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

"kinesiologists" are not only not doctors, they don't even need a masters' degree or a professional license, apparently

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

I think even the NYTimes reporting there is questionable and lends too much credence.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I thought kinesiology was the degree you got to teach high school gym classes.

and i don't even care, similar to how a badass would respond (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

"kinesiologists" are not only not doctors, they don't even need a masters' degree or a professional license, apparently

lol i read "kinesiologist" and i thought that sounds like a swanky MD specialist or something. had no idea wth they are

brownie, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

It’s not like I haven’t struggled all my adult life with my body image. But there’s something affirming about how much my children have always loved and needed my body, from breast-feeding, to shared baths.

Tell me more about that.

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2)

most joyous lol at this

j., Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/dining/hatching-your-own-batch-of-eggs.html

Internet commerce has made it easy to order hatching eggs and day-old chicks; Web sites, like those of Greenfire Farms and Murray McMurray Hatchery in Iowa, have live video and gorgeous photos of birds, plumage and vividly colored eggs. “It’s my new J. Crew catalog,” said Jana Martin, a writer who lives outside Woodstock, N.Y., and started raising Buff Orpington hens last year.

I DIED, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:04 (twelve years ago) link

Her roommates are all vegetarian or vegan, she said, but even the vegans eat the house-raised eggs because they know that the birds are healthy and well cared for.

also I have news for the vegan roomates

I DIED, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

i just spent 20 minutes clicking around on those hatchery websites because weird-ass birds that feed you are pretty cool imho

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

"It’s my new J. Crew catalog."

http://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/images/global/to/top_hat_special_thumb_large_popup.jpg

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

My aunt and uncle built a chicken coop and kept chickens for a while -- they had just moved to a farm and it was a novelty for them. Eventually, the upkeep became a PITA and they ended up giving the chickens to some neighbors.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

A very good friend of mine started eating meat after many years as a borderline vegan when she moved out to western MA and started raising goats and chickens.

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Good call. Goat is delicious.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I've had 3 different friends separately take in a bunch of chickens over the past year. One of them brings down baskets of brown, white, and blue eggs when she visits the city. I really wanted to do this for a while but didn't have the necessary space.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

My grandfather raised chickens for show in his backyard. From what I recall, their eggs were delicious and they were mean little fuckers to a 7-year old.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

We'd raise chickens if we could, but local zoning says no. In a town of 6000...in Mississippi. What the hell is this world coming to?

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'll leave raising chickens up to the factory farmers, since they do it the best.

Jeff, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

We'd raise chickens if we could, but local zoning says no. In a town of 6000...in Mississippi. What the hell is this world coming to?

― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:23 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thats nuts, chickens are a-ok p much anywhere in mpls city limits iirc

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

mf rooster next door woke my sorry jet lagged ass off too many times last summer & we didn't even get any free eggs out of it, ban the cock imo (actually cocks already banned but apparently they didn't know it was a cock because do rooster have penus)

Euler, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

maybe that zoning law was driven by a farming lobby in MS? I don't see how/why it would happen otherwise

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

chickens also no prob in london, problem is that london chicken coops are wildly popular with london foxes

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

i hear hunting those is nbd tho

goole, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

get a horn, act rich

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

their only natural predator is extraordinary wealth

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/living-like-a-billionaire-if-only-for-a-day/?hp

hello

A raft of studies, including one in 2010 by Princeton researchers Daniel Kahneman and Angus Deaton, has underscored the fact that the rich are no happier than the merely comfortable, and are often burdened by the same problems: health and work issues, family concerns and worries about making ends meet.

¶I reached out to Dr. Jim Grubman, a clinical psychologist who specializes in wealth, to help me understand this idea that billionaires are, in essence, just like us.

¶“It goes against what we’ve been told our whole lives,” he tells me. “But it’s true.”

¶Still, two hours later, when the billionaire and I touch down in Sea Island, Ga., it’s hard to see the similarities. As we deplane, a classic Mercedes convertible is waiting. We jump in, and he ferries me around the resort, with its multimillion-dollar villas and perfectly manicured golf courses.

¶Everywhere he goes, he gets four-star service. Doors are opened, luggage is carried away wordlessly, and at one point, warm chocolate chip cookies magically appear. When his brakes sputter and his convertible starts spewing smoke, he picks up another Mercedes.

j., Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

“Somebody’s got to live this life,” he says, gesturing to the pristine view from his penthouse villa. “God decided it should be me.”

j., Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

*cries* BUT I DON'T WANNA READ THAT ARTICLE

ugh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. Wow wow wow.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, I thought that article was effective in making the point that a billionaire's life is not very different from the life of an American of above-average income. The guy has a car, he has a job, he has a watch. What does it mean that the watch costs $400K? I know a few very rich people and their lives are in fact not as different as I would have thought -- I mean, the people I know don't live on giant estates, maybe that's one thing, they live in houses I consider "normal=sized" in places where "normal-sized" houses cost as much as giant estates.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link


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