quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

having no money kinda keeps me going. if i didn't have to keep going i really wouldn't keep going.

i would sure as hell learn to heli-fence

having no money kinda keeps me going. if i didn't have to keep going i really wouldn't keep going.

Thus spake entire history of western civilization.

The small sample size of billionaires i've met have been people who simply could not stop working. It would drive them crazy to just relax and enjoy themselves.

in my world of billionaire people

Yeah, of the actual millionaires I've known, they didn't exactly lead lives of leisure.

rich people actually work more hours than poor people in america, because they are crazy and need help

there is a good way to help them tho, by taking away their money

I support this money confiscation plan 100%. Hell, 110%. I'm feeling generous.

it's important that we frame the tax issue as a way of helping crazy people

I think actually yeah you'd probably find that a lot of the merely wealthy and not super wealthy work all the time, because they are workaholics and/or the source of their wealth is some all-consuming position in an industry like finance.

One of the people I refer to was super-wealthy. He donated $33 million to have a science building put up at Stanford. He's signed on to Warren Buffett's "billionaire challenge." He is really, really, really rich.

He also used to take his own wine to restaurants and just pay corkage fees, so.

Obviously in comparison to almost 100% of the people on Earth, it's not a tough existence but there's definitely a strangeness and a couple of legtimate problems that come with being super-super-rich.

xp that's a sign that you're superrich tho! cuz you got better wine than the restaurant and somebody to carry that shit for you.

forks otm

I thought most really rich people inherited their money, not earned it being workaholics in an all consuming industry like finance. I'm actually sure of it, and will try to find a link.

haha wellll it depends on what you mean by 'rich'

tbh i'm more responsive & sympathetic to the plight of kids raised by elite super-wealthy parents than the plight of being super-wealthy per se, though i guess it's kinda hard to separate the two

rich kid plight not big on my plight list.

no plight list
you must be this poor to ride

xxxp, Yes. Aside from the obvious issues like the risk of kidnapping, it does seem to be a receipe for a fairly deep malaise and melancholy in a lot of young people. The ones who aren't braying and obnoxious, obvs.

forks otm'ing the hell outta this thing

yeah malaise of youth is hardly exclusive to the rich anyway and I have a hard time believing it's any worse than the malaise of being a high school dropout with a convenience store job or the malaise of a middling statue u. grad who goes to work for an insurance company.

malaise of pregnant high school dropout who can't get a job at convenience store wins plight prize!

plus, being rich kid automatically means bigger t.v. = problem solved!

I guess when I hear arguments like "rich kids can still have terrible absentee parents and wind up drug addicts" or w/e, I'm like "yeah that's true, and I sympathize with them! But who's better off, the rich kid with that problem or the poor kid with the same problem but no money for rehab or a therapist?"

yeah i get it, poor rich kids, boo hoo. i'm not saying my heart bleeds for them but their circumstances present some unique issues that aren't shared by their parents who may have attained their own wealth, is all

feel like the teen drug issue is abetted with pocket money

yeah that's what I meant

IME, money is not an obstacle for poor kids getting hooked on shit.

wait sorry I read that as "abated with pocket money" instead of "abetted"

more money ---> better drugs more often with more ease

not saying determined teens aren't gonna not get fucked up

xxxp, Yes. Aside from the obvious issues like the risk of kidnapping, it does seem to be a receipe for a fairly deep malaise and melancholy in a lot of young people. The ones who aren't braying and obnoxious, obvs.

― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

so they move to new york and try to become writers?

they apply to be brett easton ellis characters?

their backpacks are really heavy requiring extensive physical therapy on account of all the gold bars in them. i do feel bad about that.

haha, sorry, obviously most humans are pitiful. i feel bad for everyone mostly.

hey re the mention of kinesiology upthread, today i came across this article and apparently its the method used by the widely acknowledged best training staff in the nba, so maybe not so much bullshit as new exciting physical therapy technique

http://valleyofthesuns.com/2012/04/05/secret-behind-phoenix-suns-elite-training-staff

excited by this exciting new physical therapy technique

http://i.imgur.com/Tv0Fl.jpg

Kinesiology and applied kinesiology (what was mentioned upthread) are not the same thing.

The Suns players aren't holding vials to see what makes them weaker.

unsurprisingly, AK was invented by a chiropractor

i dont know anything abt holding viles but i do know there should only be one thing called kinesiology

when i see that word i just think of

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/sites/default/files/Sam_Kinison.jpg

oh sorry this gy

http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/original/9zOHyx1jbGmgN4mYtdTcbLgw3Jh.jpg

tho i guess that would be kinisiology

a science unto itself

trollish: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/04/who-got-in-to-the-country-s-top-colleges.html

no mention of the curse of the over achieving asian american

I don't necessarily agree with most of this, but its a good read: http://mathbabe.org/2012/04/05/it-sucks-to-be-rich/