HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

yeah you could sort of telegraph it but she really went to town on it with the whole "close your eyes" slightly ludicrous stuff.

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, April 7, 2012 10:45 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't complaining! It was an intuitively necessary statement. Sometimes a show having predictable dialogue is actually a good thing, it's like a sports player seeing an opening and taking it and scoring.

but if they were already turned around, why did their eyes need to be closed? shouldn't she have said "cover your ears"?

man she was just being theatrical

tbf all the incesty stuff is direct from the books

oh the books!

anyone watched ep2? more like game of porn

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Saturday, April 7, 2012 3:23 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no kidding.

the "sexposition" is getting kinda ridic at this point. also some interesting changes/embellishments to the story. it's kinda exciting to see what they change and what they don't!

They must have some plans for Ros, cos for a character that doesn't appear in the books she sure gets a lot of screen time.

I think she's there mostly for the non-pov characters to have someone to talk to

non-pov characters in the book, that is

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26kfgPEwY1qbypg1o1_1280.jpg

it's kinda exciting to see what they change and what they don't!

yeah, its been a while since i've read book two, but i'm pretty sure the end of this episode was a pretty big departure from the book

yes. My wife and I were both like, "what?"

so glad that patchface isn't in this

Taking this less and less seriously as the show progresses. It really does seem to be targeted at 14-year old boys.

Jon takes after Ned, doesn't he?

btw the tumblrs are whining about the show departing from the books, those big babbies should be careful Craster doesn't leave them out in the wilderness.

I haven't read the books, but I hope they do depart from them because goodness gracious this is too sprawling at the moment. I know it probably has to be that way for a bit, but I'm hoping it coalesces at some point and we have a coming together.

Still glad that they keep moments like Robert's bastard's "I sold armour" line.

lol yes that was A+++, both of Gendry's scenes were great.

im happy when it departs because i dont know what exactly is going to happen and also tbh the books do peter out after 3 so if they're planning on fixing that, im onboard

yeah the second ep kinda sucked to be honest. it was like they decided they need to show how cruel and ugly and dehumanising this world is, particularly to women, and "they did you notice that the first time? COS IF NOT HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT! oh you missed that one did you? WELL HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND IT'S EVEN LESS SUBTLE, HOW ABOUT MORE ROUGH ANAL SEX? LOOK AT HOW THESE PEOPLE ARE MERE OBJECTS, HER, HER AND HER TOO, LOOK."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2012/apr/09/game-of-thrones-season-two-episode-two?newsfeed=true

good lord, since when does the guardian do this sort of thing

can someone tell me what the change from the books was? also, i wonder why they decided season two episode two was the time for ti

it was like they decided they need to show how cruel and ugly and dehumanising this world is, particularly to women, and "they did you notice that the first time? COS IF NOT HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT! oh you missed that one did you? WELL HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND IT'S EVEN LESS SUBTLE, HOW ABOUT MORE ROUGH ANAL SEX? LOOK AT HOW THESE PEOPLE ARE MERE OBJECTS, HER, HER AND HER TOO, LOOK."

― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, April 9, 2012 6:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

I was like WE GET IT ALREADY JESUS. There was just way I much fucking in that one. I know it's HBO but still. :/

i much

too much

can someone tell me what the change from the books was

I don't think Stannis and Melisandre were sleeping together in the books. In fact Stannis comes across as very non-sexual, he's married and has a daughter so he's obviously had sex with his wife at least once but probably only out of duty. It seemed out of character for him.

Nah, it is kind of implied that they're doing it, just very obliquely. Much like Renly and Loras.

Yes, but it is somewhat alluded to in the books. I forget who, but they commented on Stannis's disinterest in/impatience with his wife, and all the time he has for the younger, more beautiful Melisandre.

But then again he doesn't have a wife or family in this does he?

Melisandre mentioned his wife being locked up in her tower

Ty, I haven't seen the second episode (or missed that from the first!)

My reading was that Stannis was desperately keen on a son, not so much horny for that bod.

it is acknowledged or at least very strongly implied that Stannis and Melisandre got it on in the books at least on one occasion. i mean, i can't say anything without giving a kinda-not-really-spoiler-y detail, but it is right in there. i don't think anything is said about stannis looking to get a male heir thru her tho. certainly her intentions are different.

anyway, in terms of the big 'change', i think ppl are referring to the very end?

can someone tell me what the change from the books was?

I believe on the Stannis et Melisandre question, that he dreams a sort of murky, magical, succubus-like encounter, and she takes that from him without his full consent. It IS mentioned often that she's taking the Stannis' wife's place at his side, but that's like a transfer of power & authority, not a sign of a sexual liaison.

lol @ u alls decrying the ack of subtlety in game of thrones

i seem to remember them being quite clear that melisandre was getting it on with stannis. in one of the later books someone says that she warms his bed or something like that, which kinda makes it clear what they're doing.

sex?

Hm I don't remember that being specifically told to us by a reliable narrator? If another character says it, it's just as likely to be their unreliable PoV.

The Lord Of Light makes a fine hot water bottle.

i seem to remember them being quite clear that melisandre was getting it on with stannis. in one of the later books someone says that she warms his bed or something like that, which kinda makes it clear what they're doing.

― Jibe, Monday, April 9, 2012 11:07 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sex?

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, April 9, 2012 11:09 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lmao

is there a spoilery thread?

the book threads are spoilery, though if you haven't read all 5 books i would avoid them

anyone watched ep2? more like game of porn

the brothel keyhole-blowjob --> wiping-off-the-corner-of-the-mouth --> deep kiss with new client scene was way over the top

^ and that sort of thing doesn't usually bother me that much. I mean, come on, the wiping the mouth this was just gross.

tbh until just now I thought I had read too much into that bit because I didn't think they would have actually shown that. Gah.

yeah it took me a minute to register that they were really going there

even some of the dialogue like what that prisoner said to arya about putting a stick up her anus or whatev, it's a bit gleefully gross.

I guess I'm too desensitised to really find that ott. Genuine lolz at the chain of people spying on other people - as well as that subtext of the ways in which Littlefinger and others use spying/voyeurism etc.

Thinking back this was pretty strong thematically, but I didn't really appreciate that so much while watching it due to jumping from story to story.

the thing about the wiping of her mouth that made it gross to me was that it was like identifying her as "look, she even needs a man to wipe her mouth for her, she is literally nothing more than a tool for fucking"

THAT is otm.

most of the other fuck scenes in the episode at least involved a major character or had some plot purpose, I think that's one reason it seemed gratuitous