come anticipate the BBC's iPlayer with me

haha get a mac lol

o wait

> Anyone got any ideas as to how I might actually be able to access this folder?

command line?

knoppix 8)

It won't let me in through the command line either. Hugely annoying.

try threats

It works now! And it's great.

"Downloading 0% (0MB)"

It's been saying that for 15 minutes, I could have stolen Still Game via other sources by now. It doesn't work and it's not great.

I had that as well. I signed out and then in again, and it started downloading.

wake me up when this a) works b) on a mac c) with something (other than still game or family guy) i might actually want to watch on BBC TV.

Now working in Mac and linux via flash:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

What it needs is a standalone option that can float over your other windows, otherwise, seems good.

Everyone is off watching telly now, aren't they?

cool, now i can watch last week's Top Gear repeats on a 13" screen device that cost 4 times as much as a television.

oh, wait, i can't because i don't have broadband 8)

My excitement about this faded totally when I realised it wasn't carrying Match of the Day. Ah well, might be good for catching up on missed episodes of Doctor Who I suppose.

Ed it can do full-screen, which is basically the same thing. Full-screen Flash is kind of a high-end option, though. My old iBook struggles with it.

Matt yeah the rights issues are a nightmare with sport. :/

Virgin's On Demand thing doesn't carry sport either. I end up using ukn0v4 for MOTD most weeks.

It was okay once I got it working, but the iPlayer is never going to be a satisfactory substitute for ukn0v@ unless they get a decent selection of shows available. The last time I looked they were carrying just two programs from BBC4, neither of which was what I was looking for. Rubbish!

For BBC Four I see

- George Melly's Last Stand
- Brasil Brasil
- Love Soup
- Pop Go the Sixties
- Mark Lawson Talks to David Renwick
- Legends
- Bulgaria' Abandoned Children
- Watching the Russians
- The Late Edition
- The Sky At Night
- Flying Visits
- The History of the World Backwards
- Brasil Brasil: A Tale of Four Cities
- Brasil Brasil: The Tropicalia Revolution
- Brasil Brasil: From Samba to Bossa

It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel - you have to look at a certain day first or do a keyword search, and THEN filter by channel.

i forgot to install this

b-b-but the point is that now you don't have to install anything!

> It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel

it is. maybe they are trying to get away from the idea of channels given that traditionally channels were only there because it was the only way of having a choice at any given time, you had to physically switch between the channels. but i think the channels as genre / brand thing still works.

(still no 64 bit flash for linux btw. can wrap the 32 bit version with a netscape plugin but...)

if anything they're trying to brand and distinguish their channels more than ever. somewhat foolishly imo.

BBC has always been about branding and distinguishing their channels, even when there were only two of them.

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though.

OK, now finally no nonsense about downloading codexes and DRM. It is now officially actually good! Only took them six months!

ITVs

1: coronation street
2: X factor behind the scenes shit
3: poirot
4: police camera action with alastair "one for the road" stewart

I've just looked and yeah the iPlayer actually IS now a lot better. Also, convenient link to the radio stuff as well.

Do you still need to download to go full-screen though? I refuse to watch telly in tiny windows.

I am in the role of Beeb apologist here I realise, but I just want to point out that it's not like they just thought of this (Flash). Flash video simply took too long to encode and also is pretty CPU-intensive on the client side. With the new Flash encoding tools (which include H.264) this is better. Also the BBC has felt for years that the Flash audio codecs are not up to snuff, so a lot of the wait has been negotiating better ones with Adobe.

Matt if you DL and install the latest version of Flash player, it will do full screen (it's the little icon in the extreme bottom right).

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though

I am not aware of the differences but neither do I see it as a real problem (OK this is partly because there's hardly anything on them worth the watch but still 'the Beeb' retains the most value as a brand term itself, despite all the compartmentalism). Note that The South Bank Show remains defiantly on ITV1 tho at a day and time you wouldn't expect anyone else to think was a good idea, and hasn't been shunted off to a 'arts programming for the sniffy elitists' digital alcove. So it's interesting that ITV don't see the need to divide subjects/markets up like that. Maybe it would make more commercial sense to do so, even more demographic sense to do so but I like that they haven't.

did they make the radio streams higher quality, too? the radio 3 one is pretty acceptable now (only 65kbps, it says, but it sounds a better than that to me).

booo geolocation

I'm wearing NATO schwag around my neck right now I should be fucking allowed to watch The Mighty Boosh

I watched the George Melly documentary via flash streaming yesterday evening. The picture quality is only barely acceptable in full-screen mode.

http://www.twindx.com/node/276

This is amazing - hopefully this loophole never gets closed.

Very nice, but I don't see it staying open for long.

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Forbidden.

Sorry, the server is not able to provide the page you requested at this time:

WHat did I do wrong?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/13/iplayer_iphone_drm_loophole_closed/

http://po-ru.com/diary/bbc-iplayer-fix-hacked-again/

Now available on Wii

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/09/bbc_iplayer_wii/

This has probably been commented on 2000 times on ILX, but has anybody else noticed the volume slider on the iPlayer goes up to 11?

Top.

UK ISPs are demanding the BBC help pay for their shoddy networks now because of iPlayer's success. Did they think shaping illegal downloading was going to work forever and there'd never be legitimate need for the bandwidth they promise? xp

There's a good analysis on the Reg about how a large part of the problem is BT not selling dark fibre for the backhaul, only allowing ISPs to connect to their exchanges with their fibre products which, naturally, are a bit over priced.

NV, that nugget has made my day. i don't want to think about what that says about my day.

I noticed the other week, couldn't find an appropriate thread, and then assumed that everybody would already know and I wd be publicly mocked anyway.

more old programmes needed

Match of the Day needed, ffs. Any idea when the BBC might sort out the rights issues for this, anyone?

Never

Note that The South Bank Show remains defiantly on ITV1 tho at a day and time you wouldn't expect anyone else to think was a good idea, and hasn't been shunted off to a 'arts programming for the sniffy elitists' digital alcove.

it's now on Sky Arts :/

haven't the bbc lost motd again?

I thought they'd just lost coverage of England games, not Premiership highlights?

In 2006, the BBC agreed a new deal with the Premier League which means that league highlights coverage will continue on Match of the Day until at least the end of the 2009-10 season.

you are correct so yeah they really do need to sort that out. i might use the thing if they do.

This is great

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/playlister

The new BBC Playlister music player - rumours abound

haha sorry- I keep doing that!

iplayer (radio version) seems to have moved to using radioplayer thing.

looks superficially similar but

a) doesn't remember volume settings and defaults to LOUDEST whereas i normally listen on 2/10
(except radio 3 which isn't run through the optimod so is much quieter than the others)

b) doesn't remember position in show so i have to write it down if i'm splitting listening between days

c) (minor) no choice of hi / lo quality stream - sometimes when the live stream died you could switch quality and it'd come back.

bbc has apparently cracked down on vpn / dns shenanigans for ppl outside the uk watching iplayer. anyone know of something that works?

tryna watch that bake off too huh

I use Private Internet Access, iPlayer seems to work if I choose a UK-based server.

I believe VPNs are harder to block than the DNS changing sites.

thanks milo i'll take a look

i'm using unlocator and chose uk-2

works like a charm

odd, unlocator is what recently stopped working for me.

My Private Network working for me

trying to watch the winter olympics on iPlayer is immensely frustrating. How could they have cocked this up so badly? Why not make little groups of videos for each sport? Instead we've got these massive 3.5 hour chunks of coverage to scrub through, the descriptions will reference a few sports covered, but aren't exhaustive, and the titles of the chunks all begin with "Winter Olympics 2018 - Day 8 - ..." so on a phone you can't tell the difference between any of them because the title gets truncated. From what I understand it's all been handled by BBC Sport which is an online-first proposition, so I'm confused how they could have made such a hash of this.

Agreed, you have to sift through a lot of curling to get to something with watching. It’s worse on AppleTV because scrubbing through shows is so painful.

Olympics aside the search function is atrocious, it can’t find words within titles most of the time.

Huh search works p well for me - maybe the Apple TV build is different somehow

They do have these 2-3 minute highlight clips of big moments but I want to see the whole event. And just that event, without other stuff sandwiched around it that I have to fight through. It's bizarre that you can't just dial up "Women's Super-G Final".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/accountability/consultations/bbc-iplayer-public-interest

^ BBC wants to make all (most) programmes available for 12 months after broadcast, do more archive stuff, more box sets etc. If you want to participate in the consultation you can email publicinter✧✧✧.t✧✧✧@b✧✧.c✧.u✧

and answer these questions:

Question 1: What do you think about the potential public value of our proposals for
enhanced availability of BBC content, including the extent to which our proposals
contribute to the BBC’s mission to serve all audiences through the provision of high
quality and distinctive output and services which informs, educates and entertains?

Question 2: What do you think about the benefit to consumers who will use the
service, as well as wider potential social and cultural impacts?

Question 3: What impact (positive or negative) do you think our proposals on
enhanced availability might have on fair and effective competition?

Question 4: Are there any steps you think we could take to minimise any potential
negative effects on fair and effective competition or to promote potential positive
impacts?

ha whoops. well, the email link is in the above URL