Yeah, exactly. That is what led to the reprimand But he didn't get fired, at the end JB finally said "Get this fool out of here" and that was that.
― zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
One of the points he makes is that Bootsy and Catfish were given a longer leash partly, I think, because they were young and didn't have any families to support and so didn't care as much.
― zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yep. But Bootsy was not fired for a while after the incident. It was something like the band giving him an ultimatum and everyone getting fired. I just read it yesterday and am already hazy. On the train I was reading about his actively campaigning for Nixon. So crazy, but the book gives greater insight into his thinking at the time than some of his closest colleagues at the time were privy to. A great read.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 12 April 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
Bootsy and the Cincinnati crew lasted almost exactly a year. They finally quit when they were supposed to play the Copa in New York, either because they didn't like that the gig and therefore the pay was cut in half or because Bootsy didn't want to wear a tie.
One great story is that young Bootsy had been playing a cheap green guitar strung as a bass but right before the first tour JB told him "Son, I love what you're doing with that bass but- You can't come in here with that" and bought him a new instrument.
― zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 09:50 (twelve years ago) link
The Night James Brown Played The Opry.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
haha! was hoping there would be a video.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Me too! Or at least audio. Would love to hear Wagoner's band tackle "Brand New Bag."
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
i kind of love james' forays into the country music songbook -- his "your cheating heart" is killer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPspFzyb_dE
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
http://moviepilot.com/stories/1097384-james-brown-the-godfather-of-soul-gets-his-own-biopic?stamp=39036&subscribe_to=697742&utm_campaign=james-brown-the-godfather-of-soul-gets-his-own-biopic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vptGSENcXeI
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
I'm not wowed by this trailer. I don't feel like he captures James Brown's forceful personality.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
It looks like a typical, by-the-numbers biopic, but I'm a total sucker for that kind of thing, and I can't wait to see it.
I don't think the trailer gives enough of a sense of how much Boseman inhabits James (or doesn't); he seems ok based on the clips, but not overwhelming.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link
I'm really tired of that hazy look that always gets used for films about Respectable Black Folk In The 40s/50s
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
One thing I think they missed by using Boseman is that James Brown is grizzled and a little bit ugly. He's way too pretty and clean looking.
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
biopics are uniformly horrible
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
I heard this recently. First few seconds is basically drum'n'bass. Damn, the drummers he had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6l5_FxjlaQ
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
only thing missing from that biopic trailer is the memory of a dead brother haunting him from the past
― marcos, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
I would be okay if every copy of every musical biopic ever was erased and replaced with Walk Hard
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link
is that Craig Robinson as St. Clair lol
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
He's Maceo!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
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yea seems hollywood refuses to make films w/ primarily african-american casts that are both 1) in a contemporary setting and 2) marketed not just to black folk
― marcos, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
haha sorry I couldn't tell what era that particular bit was supposed to be from
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
I've never understood why "I've Got Money" never makes into the "James Brown invents funk" mythos
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 June 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link
That track might be the single rawest thing he did. Not just the supercharged drums, but those ugly blues chords just hanging there.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 June 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link
It is noted as such in "The One" iirc
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 June 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
everyone should read The One, it is a great bio.
― tylerw, Thursday, 26 June 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
^ this.
Love the part where he's on a plane making a shaky emergency landing. An associate next to him is shaking, sweating, praying, crying, and James says to them, "Hey, don't worry; as long as I'm on this plane, it can't crash."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 June 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
everything post-80s is such a major bummer
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 June 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
James Brown in Frankie Avalaon movie Ski Partyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_xBT_xavzM
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 July 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/movies/james-brown-is-celebrated-in-get-on-up.html?hpw&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHedThumbWell&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well
Nelson George re new James Brown movie, upcoming James Brown doc, and James himself
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 July 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
x-post--That's James in 1965...Awesome
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 July 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 28 July 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
"Too Funky in Here" was great though
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 2 August 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Search and Destroy: James Brown
If you wanna jump back and forth between most recently updated James Brown threads
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 2 August 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Let Robert Christgau come in and do the popcorn.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Wait, curmudgeon is Syd Nathan?
― The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
Ha, Christgau thinks so but I am not acknowledging it
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
Mick Jagger is responsible for a lot of horrible shit but I gotta hand it to him, he really did this HBO JB doc right
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
+1
That thing is a treasure trove of footage and insights.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
yeah I am so so so glad to see something like this where the emphasis is all on actual footage/interviews w the musicians and people involved plus detailed breakdowns of the music itself (as opposed to generic "I remember the first time I heard Sex Machine, I fell out of my chair" reminiscences)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
was a little bummed that it basically stopped in 1970, but so many great stories - Melvin pulling a gun on JB, Clyde talking about how he hates Funky Drummer
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
i didn't even know this was a thing! looking forward to seeing it.
interesting that he helped bankroll both the biopic (which was balls) and a documentary
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link
also, surely mick jagger is responsible for at least as much awesome shit as horrible shit
i mean, when he gets to the pearly gates who knows how it'll all tally up but...
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
he was always the worst thing about the Rolling Stones and has been incomprehensibly awful for 30 years
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
but, y'know, take it to the Mick Jagger thread
i'll agree to disagree about the 1st part
re the 2nd part: "incomprehensibly"?
fwiw there's that documentary about their early 80s era and jagger has some actually insightful observations about the stones's music--like, thoughts on how they wrote songs vs. how they arranged them in different eras--but about 60 seconds into it you can see this look flash across his face, it's a combination of "i'm sure this is boring to everyone else" and "i'm using too many brain cells explaining this when i could just smile and say stupid shit" and then sure enough he smiles and says stupid shit.
in other words there is a really intelligent person somewhere in there that just doesn't have to show himself very often.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
xpost
ok, sry
I really want to see this, and I was hoping it was available through an avenue other than HBO at the moment, but it doesn't appear to be.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
what is the title?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
Isn't Questlove one of the producers? I thought I remember him mentioning on his podcast that he & Black Thought were some of the main movers behind this.
Christian McBride makes sense as he's Questlove's school days buddy and a certified JB obsessive.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:28 (two months ago) link
Executive Producers Mick Jagger and Ahmir “Questlove” Thompson iirc.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link
McBride was actually in Brown's band at one point (or at least backed him at a single concert; I forget the story).
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link
I think it was one concert, he tells the story of being in Brown's orbit here (1:11):
https://app.podscribe.ai/episode/83381179
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:49 (two months ago) link