quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

in the paper on record buying/selling i read at the EMP conference last year in LA i wrote that the NYT writes a vinyl is back! piece every month. not quite that bad. but now whenever i read one i can't help but think of that.

going from mp3/iphone stereo out to vinyl is almost always a revelation. i mean it depends to some degree on a bunch of things but not enough that it isn't almost always a revelation. "they don't want you to hear it" is a canard, whoever heard it first very very likely heard it and wanted it to be heard, but yes, ryan holiday is excited because he's being exposed to next-level depth-of-sound for music he likes, can't fault him for that.

i'm a little more skeptical about CDs, i think the number of factors there make a bigger difference to the point that yes, you can get an equivalent listening experience. the technology is young and i think there's always going to be a push to get better sound from certain sectors, it just takes time to become affordable unfortunately, meanwhile you can still get killer sound from a turntable/receiver/speakers for like $100.

*posted from my 97 lazy boy*

A good CD setup will give you that relevatory experience too, and you really can't get good sound from a $100 turntable/receiver/speakers setup, unless you luck into a good system at a rummage sale, or something.

Funniest thing about Vinyl Is Back is that most musicians I know that put out stuff on vinyl record it all digitally first anyways.

Yeah, it's not that funny.

I got a lot of shit for wearing pants more than once in a five-day week, for example.

I was very very paranoid about doing this when I was in middle school.

had a friend in high school who would wash every article of clothing after one wear

That's pretty much what I do. Well, Carl does it.

I think a lot of people do that! The real agony of modern life is that we don't have a proper storage system for "not quite dirty" clothing items that you might throw in a load of laundry, but if it's on top of the dirty laundry you would still wear it another time. Since I live alone I leave these draped over the back of a chair.

you could have a spectrum storage system, where you have like 10 containers and you put something in based on its dirtiness from 1 to 10

that's so weird to me, especially with things like jeans or button ups that you wear over an undershirt.

'not quite dirty' clothing items = lay around on the floor my apartment, to be worn later

Ring around the collar gets me every time.

Jeans I'll wear more than once. Also sweaters.

oh man, sweat stains around the collar for dress shirts and certain other kinds of cotton shirts are the worst. how do you get rid of them?

my solution is "buy a new shirt"

(I realize that may not work for everyone)

I take all my shirts to the dry cleaner. They do something magic to them.

how often do you folks dry clean? and what do you dry clean? and how much do you pay?

i dry clean my very nice shirts every 3-4 times i wear them, and wool sweaters 1x/year. usually 20 bucks for 4-6 items.

I wear my shirts one or two times before dry cleaning. Summer time I'll do it after every one because of sweat. part of it is just so they are nice and pressed/startched and I don't have to worry about steaming them to get rid of the wrinkles.

Honestly don't know how much it costs, I just pay it.

we basically let our dry-cleaning pile up and go every other month, paying about $80 for several shirts, dresses, a suit or two and possibly a jacket

The real agony of modern life is that we don't have a proper storage system for "not quite dirty" clothing items that you might throw in a load of laundry

i only wear t-shirts once, collared shirts multiple times as long at the collar is clean & there are no stains or smells. with a reasonable limit, of course. i usually put them back on the hanger.

also, febreeze

some ppl use chalk or a washable pen to mark their shirt tails after each wearing so they know when it needs to be sent out to the cleaner

which is useful i guess if you own a closetful of identical dress shirts, like some ppl do

I have had something dry cleaned exactly once in my life.

aside from sexist chatter on the street, I broke into a stiff trot recently and got "run Forrest run" from a passerby.

well, wrong thread. unless that's quiddity.

it's something

I think a lot of people do that! The real agony of modern life is that we don't have a proper storage system for "not quite dirty" clothing items that you might throw in a load of laundry, but if it's on top of the dirty laundry you would still wear it another time. Since I live alone I leave these draped over the back of a chair.

I bought a quilt rack for this purpose.

When you guys (Jeff) say you "dry clean" your dress shirts, do you actually have them *dry cleaned*? I just do shirt laundry.

If stuff's not actually "dirty" I hang it back in the closet. It's not going to spread cooties to the other clothes ffs.

I got that rack to give the clothes a place to air out and to let the wrinkles loosen. If I put worn-but-not-dirty clothes back in the general population, they're in close quarters w/ other clothes and don't get to do either.

And they might get shivved.

OZ: keeps your whites whiter

Je55e, no, they just wash/starch/press. I say dry cleaning because that is the name of the place I take it.

Wow, compared to you guys I'm pretty dirty. I usually wear pants 3 or 4 days before wash, sometimes the same with t-shirts. Button-up shirts I was after one wear.

I am not proper denim care snob dude but I got a new pair of jeans and wore them for about a month straight before a wash

I like it when snob strategies overlap w/ laziness

sometimes the same with t-shirts. Button-up shirts I was after one wear.

i wash tees & knit shirts more often because knits are more absorbent and retain more odor. also, woven fabric shirts are generally less durable and washing / drying causes more damage than actual wear

Jeans should be washed like three times a year

Ideally never

Huh. I don't think I know the difference between knits and woven fabrics.

I wear my clothes a lot before washing b/c I barely sweat at all and washing/drying wears them out.

Generally, knits are stretchy and wovens are not. Knits - t-shirts, boxer briefs, socks, sweaters. Wovens - button shirts, jeans, jackets, dress pants

There are exceptions to all of those things but that's generally way to look at it. You can also look closely at a t-shirt and see the knit pattern, which looks like this but not as exaggerated, obv, unless you are wearing chunky wool t-shirts:

http://www.spin-knit-dye.com/images/Knit-Stitch-plain.gif

Then woven fabrics look like this up close:

http://fabricgraphicsmag.com/repository/5/3092/large_0307_f3_2.jpg

I'll quiz you the next time I see you.

I remember once you told me I was too nipply in knit shirts :(

carl is correct! alternately, knits = one self-interlocking yarn, woven = two separate intersecting yarns.

I remember once you told me I was too nipply in knit shirts :(

― People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Friday, April 20, 2012 4:54 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*sigh*

I spill too much beer on my jeans to only wash them 3 times a year.

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