david brooks vs. thomas friedman vs. ross douthat

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strong campaign by douthat down the stretch but he couldn't close the gap.

balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.tnr.com/book/review/bad-religion-ross-douthat

balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

we could've been less sexist and thrown Maureen Dowd in the mix.

a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah she's awful too

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

hah that book review authoritatively calls bullshit on douthat

"ROSS DOUTHAT’S ANALYSIS of religion in America is more sophisticated than the analysis of, say, Rick Santorum—but not by much. "

^^excellent lead sentence

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

"My problem with Douthat’s book is not that his opinions differ from my own. My problem is that he does not seem to have any idea what he is talking about."

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

he also got sonned in the nyt

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Charles Pierce:

I refuse to accept the term "curmudgeonly annoyance" from a teenage sex-panic victim with D'Artagnan starter-kit facial hair."

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ross-douthat-post-election-14752276

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm not a big charles pierce fan

goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's okay to be a mild Charles Pierce fan

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm from minnesota...

goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh so that's a football reference right

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a nice response to an NYT idiot

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha no i mean "not a big fan" = "i want to play around in your blood"

goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm a huge Charles Pierce fan because he writes pieces like that.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm a huge Charles Pierce fan because he writes pieces like that.

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cf. Krugman’s response.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 19 November 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

what's supposed to be wrong with charles pierce

j., Monday, 19 November 2012 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Krugman's response a lot.

the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

yep

iatee, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

http://observer.com/2014/02/the-tyranny-and-lethargy-of-the-times-editorial-page/#ixzz2sSv69gIu

One current Times staffer told The Observer, “Tom Friedman is an embarrassment. I mean there are multiple blogs and Tumblrs and Twitter feeds that exist solely to make fun of his sort of blowhardy bullshit.” (Gawker has been particularly hard on Mr. Friedman, with Hamilton Nolan memorably skewering him in a column entitled “Tom Friedman Travels the World to Find Incredibly Uninteresting Platitudes,” as a “mustachioed soothsaying simpleton”; another column was titled “Tom Friedman Does Not Know What’s Happening Here,” and the @firetomfriedman Twitter account has more than 1,800 followers.)

Another Times reporter brought up Mr. Friedman, unsolicited, toward the end of a conversation that was generally positive about the editorial page: “I never got a note from Andy or anything like that. But I will say, regarding Friedman, there’s the sense that he’s on cruise control now that he’s his own brand. And no one is saying, ‘Hey, did you see the latest Friedman column?’ in the way they’ll talk about ‘Hey, Gail [Collins] was really funny today.’”

Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 01:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

times reporting staff otm. editorial is so so bad.

Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 01:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

whatever you may think of the NYT editorial page -- I read this article a few days ago -- the WaPo page deserves reporting to the fucking Hague.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 01:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

Editorial page has been a piece of shit for my entire lifetime.

Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

Ever since the internet I've kind of scratched my head at why these particular individuals, of all people, get paid so much money to opine about stuff every week

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:17 (6 months ago) Permalink

you don't get why someone might prefer to read paul krugman vs some random dude w/ a tumblr?

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:19 (6 months ago) Permalink

that's not fair. ppl do like krugman. obv much more embarrassing is friedman + brooks + dowd etc

Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 03:21 (6 months ago) Permalink

Paul Krugman is the one exception. I don't get what's special about most of the rest of their regular columnists though, like special enough to warrant once a week for years on end.

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:21 (6 months ago) Permalink

I love being able to avoid Krugman, too.

Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

Friedman is embarrassing, but Brooks and that insufferable prig Douthat still worse

condo associations are people my friend (will), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:24 (6 months ago) Permalink

friedman and brooks regularly churn out bestsellers, ppl do like them. dowd won a pulitzer and is still (and once was very) taken seriously by a demographic that's very attractive to advertisers. it's not a mystery how these ppl have jobs. it might be a disgrace but it's no mystery.

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

and yet so easy to avoid them entirely. Makes me happy.

Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:28 (6 months ago) Permalink

George H.W. Bush used to love reading Mo!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

xp but i wonder if they'd be bestseller writers without the vestigial name recognition of being times columnists

Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:34 (6 months ago) Permalink

douthat (esp at the time they hired him) is a 'reasonable conservative', the type the times has always thought good for their brand the way fox news used to have alan colmes. brooks is the quintessential 'reasonable conservative', to get any more reasonable you'd need aaron sorkin. he's useless as a window into current conservative thought or current conservative politics but he allows the times liberal readers to tell themselves they're exposing themselves to opposing viewpoints, to a range of opinions, that they're not like some fox news watcher. plus he indulges in the kind of dumb social pseudoscience and ted talk worthy ideas that malcolm gladwell and a good half dozen ilxors truck in. kristol was a bigger hack than either (truly a feat), but more useful. you could read him and get some idea of 'here's what these morons think', there's an element of this w/ douthat and evangelicals but he's not nearly as unmitigated a hack and hence not as useful, w/ brooks the only thing to be gleaned is 'here's what this moron thinks'.

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

brooks and friedman were both bestselling authors before they landed on the times editorial page

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

gail collins on why she hired brooks in 03 - “I was looking for the kind of conservative writer that wouldn’t make our readers shriek and throw the paper out the window,” says Collins. “He was perfect.”

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

now only NPR's Robert Siegel can be in a room without gates covering the window.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

kristol was a bigger hack than either (truly a feat), but more useful. you could read him and get some idea of 'here's what these morons think',

^ yup

condo associations are people my friend (will), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:44 (6 months ago) Permalink

a role played on cable news by "Morning Joe"

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:57 (6 months ago) Permalink

rare to find two generations of finks but Irving and Bill were, god bless'em.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:57 (6 months ago) Permalink

morning joe is 'reasonable conservative' plus beltway politico type crap right? i watch live with kelly and michael myself. sean hannity is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers think today, rush limbaugh is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers will think tomorrow, george noory is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers will think twenty years from now.

balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

Barack Obama is who you listen to when these morons get it.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 04:12 (6 months ago) Permalink

plus he indulges in the kind of dumb social pseudoscience and ted talk worthy ideas that malcolm gladwell and a good half dozen ilxors truck in.

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lag∞n, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:27 (6 months ago) Permalink

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, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:34 (6 months ago) Permalink

Surely it's more than 6. At least 8, maybe 9

, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

a bakers half dozen

lag∞n, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

hey side note what is the deal with bakers not being able to count

rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Friday, 7 February 2014 04:45 (6 months ago) Permalink

Bakers are only good at counting dough

, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

youre thinking of bankers

lag∞n, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

balls OTM re: Brooks

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 7 February 2014 14:35 (6 months ago) Permalink


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