sent mine 9 minutes ago. going bowling to celebrate!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
good luck nate and anyone else who tried their hand at this!
Good luck everybody!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
Hell yeah J.D. (J.D.)!
I feel like an immense weight has lifted off me. Now I'm off to DJ a metal show!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
Hey everybody, John Mark from Continuum here. Thanks to everyone who submitted a proposal this time around. I'm looking forward to getting schooled.
Also, just a note about stores that carry the series: We can make the book available to them and ask them to re-order, but ultimately, it's a store's call if they want to dedicate the shelf space and $$$ to bring the books into the store. So if you notice a store that used to have a good selection and has let it fall off, ask them about it and then buy some when they get them in stock! They will be more vigilant about it if they're making a buck.Other stores I know of that do well with the series: Skylight in LA, Sonic Boom in Seattle, Atomic Records in Baltimore, Greenlight in Brooklyn, Word in Greenpoint...and uh, I know I'm missing a bunch here. Anyway, Amazon is good in a pinch, but I'm probably preaching to the choir when I say that the indies need the support.
IN OTHER NEWS: Anyone want a 33 1/3 tote bag? It's a nice high-contrast black and white design. First 5 people to email their address to johnm✧✧✧.bol✧✧✧@bloomsb✧✧✧.c✧✧ will get one in the mail. First two will get a signed copy of the Lethem/Talking Heads 33 1/3 as a bonus.
― JMB, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
make that johnmark dot boling at bloomsbury dot com.
― JMB, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
OK, that was fast... tote bags got snatched up quick.
― JMB, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
Tote bags are gone, so no need to send any more emails, please. thanks. I'm sending out six bags since caller #2 (fair and square) was a friend.
― JMB, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
I'm so lucky to live in Portland near Powell's. They always have the latest 33 1/3 in stock.
Cheers JMB!
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yeah, Powell's is great, duh. There's lots of bonus content here on their blog, conveniently tagged as 33 1/3.
― JMB, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
posted this over in the fear of music thread but it's relevant here:LA Review of Books has some great content about Fear of Music (in relation to Lethem's new 33 1/3 book)In-depth review: http://lareviewofbooks.org/article.php?id=587Podcast w/ Lethem (interviewed by Andy Zax, who produced all the recent Talking Heads reishes): http://lareviewofbooks.org/media.php?media=183&r_article=597
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
471 proposals this time. Wow! A lot of great ones that I would buy...
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.33third.blogspot.pt/2012/05/listomania.html ^^ full list. some odd choices, as expected (3 jandek proposals, for example). kinda sad there aren't some more electronic/dance records overall. still, would really love to read a good book on klf's 'chill out' - wonder if it was proposed by someone from ilm.
― rusty_allen, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
so have they decided that they'll re-do artists who have already been featured in the series? a lot of the proposals are repeats.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
iirc they said a while ago that they were open to repeating artists but haven't actually done so yet
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
ah ok. at this point it probably makes sense to do some repeats.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
there are already some repeat artist books -- 2 on the stones, 2 on radiohead.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
oh no kidding? did not know that.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
De La Soul Is Dead is the biggest "yes, that needs to be a book" album on the list for me
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that'd be good! was just telling my friend that he should submit a go betweens proposal -- looks like a couple people beat him to it!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
also kind of intrigued by the idea of a volume on I, Jonathan, though it seems like a book about the Modern Lovers debut is more likely.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
i love that album so i liked seeing it ont he list, even though yeah it does seem a little implausible
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol thank me later
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
bunch of repeats in that list, they should've sorted them alphabetically...
The Mountain Goats All Hail West TexasThe Mountain Goats All Hail West TexasThe Mountain Goats All Hail West TexasThe Mountain Goats All Hail West TexasThe Mountain Goats All Hail West Texas
― koogs, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
Artists getting more than one proposal:
The Mountain Goats (6)Bob Dylan (5)Manic Street Preachers (4)Pet Shop Boys (4)Richard Hell (incl. Voidoids) (4)The Beatles (4)Van Halen (4)Wilco (4)Danger Mouse (3)Fiona Apple (3)Frank Zappa (inc. MOI) (3)Fugazi (3)Jandek (3)John Lennon (incl. w/Yoko) (3)Rush (3)The Beach Boys (3)The Go-Betweens (3)The Mekons (3)The Monkees (3)The Waterboys (3)They Might Be Giants (3)Van Morrison (3)X (3)
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
surprised there's no Blur/Suede/Pulp in that list* and like FOUR Van Halen proposals! (no offence, fans of The Halen).
*nor books on them already.
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
Dog Man Star is in there
― willem, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
...but if you meant in that list of multiple proposals please ignore my post
― willem, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
wld read the shit out of a AHWT book. Also The Grey Album. Also a bunch more. Aw hell, here I go to amazon.
Should have pitched a EtWT one as the other one died.
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
whoever's gone for True Stories is outta their heads. i get the idea of some non-canon albums being better than the canon album of band X (Tusk over Rumours or whatever) or having better behind-the-scenes stories attached, so making for better books (De La Soul Is Dead over 3 Feet High.. ) but True Stories.. gimme a break that album's garbage. *give me a hundred pages about Remain In Light*!!
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
144 interesting pages about a mediocre album >>>>>>>>>> 144 boring pages about a great album
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
true, but that requires some mighty assumptions about which book would turn out boring or interesting
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
imo after they pick which ones to publish 33 1/3 should do something like share all of the pitches and let people vote on one. actually n/m i'm sure whatever act has the most rabid online fanbase would hijack that. but it would be fun to see the pitches.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
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I guess...? My only point is that the quality (or lack of quality) of the album/subject doesn't rub off on any analysis of it. I'd love to see a Bizarro-world 33 1/3 Series about really bad albums, reportage and historical analysis about how these turds got made, what the principals were thinking, how they tried to polish said turds, etc.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
oh totally. a lot of my fav albums in the series are ones that aren't dragged down by a tone of awestruck fandom.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
a Bizarro-world 33 1/3 Series about really bad albums,http://www.continuumbooks.com/books/image.aspx?BookId=125649kind of what this volume is about....
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
wmc otm
i mean, eg céline
ha xp!
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
though the point of that book was not dismissing it as a bad album
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, no, it wasn't really about dissing the album, more just the idea of writing a book about something you don't really like.
― tylerw, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
whoever's gone for True Stories is outta their heads. i get the idea of some non-canon albums being better than the canon album of band X (Tusk over Rumours or whatever) or having better behind-the-scenes stories attached, so making for better books (De La Soul Is Dead over 3 Feet High.. ) but True Stories.. gimme a break that album's garbage.
I would so love to read a cogent take on, say, how quickly Byrne's ideas ossified. Then after a long wilderness period the band returns to a new level of authority and influence.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
The best stuff I've heard regarding True Stories were Stephen Tobolowsky's experiences on working on the film and how he became the inspiration for the song Radio Head based on psychic experiences that he had in his youth.
On the topic of the list, I'm certainly baffled by the presence of "Music from and Inspired by Mission Impossible 2".
― MarkoP, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Wld love to read a Kimono My House book.
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Just went to Amazon.co.uk to buy three of these (Paul's Boutique, Music from Big Pink, Village Green) and some of the reviews for this series are brutal. So many angry one-star slams from aggrieved fans of the albums. Is, say, Amanda Petrusich's Pink Moon really that bad?
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
I ordered the Paul's Boutique one yesterday.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
I know that the talking-point books are deservedly the more ambitious essays/memoirs/novellas but with some albums I just want a really solid, persuasive making-of story.
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, many of them, sadly but predictably, are rubbish.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
I really enjoyed the Zaireeka one and the Celine Dion one. I liked Geeta's Another Green World one, too. I've not read any others, I don't think.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
The ones I want (of albums I love) generally seem to get poor reviews.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
the paul's boutique book is a solid 3/5 i'd say. when these books are good, they're great - thinkin' specifically the 'riot goin' on' volume, which is gangbusters - but when they suck, like the one on daydream nation or the one on 'songs in the key of life' that's mouldering in my rucksack and that i never want to gaze on again, the sense of an opportunity squandered (not to mention the inept, self-indulgent writing involved) awakens the HULK SMASH in me tbh.
― It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
Which are the best?
1 Dusty in Memphis- Dusty Springfield 1969 Warren Zanes2 Forever Changes -Love 1967 Andrew Hultkrans3 Harvest -Neil Young 1972 Sam Inglis4 The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society -The Kinks 1968 Andy Miller5 Meat Is Murder- The Smiths 1985 Joe Pernice6 The Piper at the Gates of Dawn- Pink Floyd 1967 John Cavanagh7 ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits -ABBA 1992 Elisabeth Vincentelli8 Electric Ladyland -The Jimi Hendrix Experience 1968 John Perry9 Unknown Pleasures- Joy Division 1979 Chris Ott10 Sign “☮” the Times - Prince 1987 Michaelangelo Matos11 The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground 1967 Joe Harvard12 Let It Be -The Beatles 1970 Steve Matteo13 Live at the Apollo -James Brown 1963 Douglas Wolk14 Aqualung-Jethro Tull 1971 Allan Moore15 OK Computer-Radiohead 1997 Dai Griffiths16 Let It Be -The Replacements 1984 Colin Meloy17 Led Zeppelin IV -Led Zeppelin 1971 Erik Davis18 Exile on Main St. -The Rolling Stones 1972 Bill Janovitz19 Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys 1966 Jim Fusilli20 Ramones- Ramones 1976 Nicholas Rombes21 Armed Forces -Elvis Costello 1979 Franklin Bruno22 Murmur- R.E.M. 1983 J. Niimi23 Grace - Jeff Buckley 1994 Daphne Brooks24 Endtroducing..... -DJ Shadow 1996 Eliot Wilder25 Kick Out the Jams - MC5 1969 Don McLeese26 Low - David Bowie 1977 Hugo Wilcken27 Born in the U.S.A. -Bruce Springsteen 1984 Geoffrey Himes28 Music from Big Pink -The Band 1968 John Niven29 In the Aeroplane over the Sea- Neutral Milk Hotel 1998 Kim Cooper30 Paul's Boutique -Beastie Boys 1989 Dan Le Roy31 Doolittle - Pixies 1989 Ben Sisario32 There's a Riot Goin' On -Sly and the Family Stone 1971 Miles Marshall Lewis33 The Stone Roses -The Stone Roses 1989 Alex Green34 In Utero-Nirvana 1993 Gillian G. Gaar35 Highway 61 Revisited -Bob Dylan 1965 Mark Polizzotti36 Loveless -My Bloody Valentine 1991 Mike McGonigal37 The Who Sell Out -The Who 1967 John Dougan38 Bee Thousand - Guided by Voices 1994 Marc Woodworth39 Daydream Nation -Sonic Youth 1988 Matthew Stearns40 Court and Spark -Joni Mitchell 1974 Sean Nelson41 Use Your Illusion I and II -Guns N' Roses 1991 Eric Weisbard42 Songs in the Key of Life-Stevie Wonder 1976 Zeth Lundy43 The Notorious Byrd Brothers -The Byrds 1968 Ric Menck44 Trout Mask Replica -Captain Beefheart 1969 Kevin Courrier45 Double Nickels on the Dime -Minutemen 1984 Michael T. Fournier46 Aja -Steely Dan 1977 Don Breithaupt47 People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm - A Tribe Called Quest 1990 Shawn Taylor48 Rid of Me -PJ Harvey 1993 Kate Schatz49 Achtung Baby -U2 1991 Stephen Catanzarite50 If You're Feeling Sinister - Belle & Sebastian 1996 Scott Plagenhoef51 Pink Moon -Nick Drake 1972 Amanda Petrusich52 Let's Talk About Love -Celine Dion 1997 Carl Wilson53 Swordfishtrombones -Tom Waits 1983 David Smay54 20 Jazz Funk Greats - Throbbing Gristle 1979 Drew Daniel55 Horses -Patti Smith 1975 Philip Shaw56 Master of Reality -Black Sabbath 1971 John Darnielle57 Reign in Blood - Slayer 1986 D.X. Ferris58 Shoot Out the Lights -Richard and Linda Thompson 1982 Hayden Childs59 Gentlemen -The Afghan Whigs 1993 Bob Gendron60 Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash -The Pogues 1985 Jeffery T. Roesgen61 The Gilded Palace of Sin - The Flying Burrito Brothers 1969 Bob Proehl62 Pink Flag -Wire 1977 Wilson Neate63 XO - Elliott Smith 1998 Mathew Lemay64 Illmatic -Nas 1994 Matthew Gasteier65 Radio City - Big Star 1974 Bruce Eaton66 One Step Beyond... - Madness 1979 Terry Edwards67 Another Green World - Brian Eno 1975 Geeta Dayal68 Zaireeka The Flaming Lips- 1997 Mark Richardson69 69 Love Songs -The Magnetic Fields 1999 LD Beghtol70 Facing Future - Israel Kamakawiwo'ole 1993 Dan Kois71 It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back -Public Enemy 1988 Christopher R. Weingarten72 Wowee Zowee -Pavement 1995 Bryan Charles73 Highway to Hell- AC/DC 1979 Joe Bonomo74 Song Cycle -Van Dyke Parks 1968 Richard Henderson75 Spiderland - Slint 1991 Scott Tennent76 Kid A - Radiohead 2000 Marvin Lin77 Tusk - Fleetwood Mac 1979 Rob Trucks78 Pretty Hate Machine Nine Inch Nails 1989 Daphne Carr79 Chocolate and Cheese Ween 1994 Hank Shteamer80 American Recordings Johnny Cash 1994 Tony Tost81 Some Girls The Rolling Stones 1978 Cyrus Patell82 You're Living All Over Me Dinosaur Jr. 1987 Nick Attfield83 Marquee Moon Television 1977 Bryan Waterman84 Amazing Grace Aretha Franklin 1972 Aaron Cohen 85 Dummy Portishead 1994 RJ Wheaton86 Fear of Music Talking Heads 1979 Jonathan Lethem
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link