worst generation

*audible gasp*

mamet writes reviews like he writes dialogue:

"What can one say to the self-proclaimed 'independent' who never has nor ever will vote other than Democratic; or to the wise soul suggesting, of any conflict at all, "the truth must lie somewhere in between"? Mr. Goldberg reminds us that one must stand up and demand of the muddled and supine either an absolute declaration of their principles and acknowledgment of the results of actions having flowed therefrom or a straightforward admission of their intransigence in refusing a concise reply."

(-DAVID MAMET, bestselling author of The Secret Knowledge )

^mamet endorsing the tyrrany of cliches

http://i.imgur.com/3mQdc.png

xpost needs more swears imo

vocal fry was discussed in a thread - pretty sure La Lechera started it - could've been on the sandbox though

bitter millennial narrative re: reagan revolution is, the boomers had this big revolution where instead of being CONFORMIST DRONES they were going to BREAK FREE and SELF-ACTUALIZE and FIND THEMSELVES, which confused the corporations for about five minutes before they pulled themselves together and were like oh ok that's cool! hey you know a good way to find yourself? buy these sunglasses and vote against regulation. government's the problem!

do these speech patterns really span a generation or are they more region specific? can anyone give some examples of someone well known that speaks like this?

Iatee's explanation seems most convincing so far.

I had to immediately vote "Greatest Generation" just because, c'mon. Humility is very important to me.

Also, you effing nuked Japan. Assholes.

To be fair, they didn't nuke Japan. It's not like they voted on it.

the boomers had this big revolution where instead of being CONFORMIST DRONES they were going to BREAK FREE and SELF-ACTUALIZE and FIND THEMSELVES

what cartoon is this?

bitter millennial narrative re: reagan revolution

I remember when millenials were making this complaint back when they started punk rock

It's not like they voted on it.

Truman definitely Lost Generation

what cartoon is this?

I remember lots of ppl who had been vaguely non-conformist voting for Raygun in '84 - they had rediscovered money but they still wanted to be thought of as 'cool'.

"bitter millennial narrative" was just me full-disclosing, although to be fair the people who started punk rock hadn't actually grown up in the country the reagan revolution made

i guess Boomers aren't quite as bad as they've been made out to be, but they (and their culture/culture that panders to them) have been so omnipresent for so long that it's very tempting to vote for them b/c more than anything else i want that generation to just STFU already.

nah they're still bad it's just the simple narrative about them is kinda misleading

'they were all hippies! all them! then they were all reagan republicans! all of them!'

it's easier for me to be a tad more sympathetic to Boomers when i remember that the Greatest Generation right before them were a bunch of bigoted Don Drapers and Archie Bunkers whose attitudes and activities were partly responsible for the Boomer excesses and pretensions that drive Gen-Xers and Millenials so fucking crazy.

The youngest boomers were still in pre-school during Woodstock and were undergrads in the mid-80s, right?

Don Draper was a member of the Silent Generation was he not?

xpost to iatee
xpost to self!

i'll just be happy to not hear any more about the fucking Beatles or Woodstock.

i object to the terminology "generation y" by the way

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

i don't really care about generational differences except when i do, i just hate how lazy "generation y" and "generation z" are as names. every other generation gets an actual name but whoever decides this shit got distracted by the letter x and suddenly all generations are just going to be listed by letter. step up your game, culture shitheads.

"generation why"

FUCK THAT SHIT

i'm generation pepsi

us Gen-Xers were called Slackers, roughly coterminous with the Gen-X tag. so that's something.

also i remember reading on wiki that some people want the generations after "z" to just go down the greek alphabet

The youngest boomers were still in pre-school during Woodstock and were undergrads in the mid-80s, right?

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:01 PM (4 minutes ago)

yes (born 1963, had just started 1st grade when Woodstock happened, undergrad 81-85)

i like "generation spongebob." it's malleable enough to fit people who watched spongebob as impressionable toddlers all the way up to stoned college-ers, as well as people who worked on the show like tom kinney and kaz. There's definitely some kind of divide between who 'get' spongebob on some level and people who don't.

it would explain certain sartorial choices for the Gen-Y/Millenial set, i agree:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/spongebob.jpeg

is that for gen y or z philip

(I mean, most of the credit for progressive measures in the 60s and 70s would seem to have to go to boomers' parents.)

the accelerated maturation colliding with prolonged infantilism really makes birthdate cutoffs less relevant than what nickelodeon tv show shapes your worldview.

It's funny that despite having the same mother, my older brother and I would be from different generations

the name is millennial

it is a fine name

xxp it's true, i still suffer from fear and anxiety when someone asks me something and I say, "I don't know."

And someone born in 1945 who had a kid in 1965 would be part of the same generation as their child.

xpost to Michael White

I'm actually really unclear on what I would be (b 1979). Wikipedia seems to put me near the tail end of Generation X but, like, I was 12 when the Coupland book came out (although I did read it at 13).

And someone born in 1945 who had a kid in 1965 would be part of the same generation as their child.

My mom was born in '44 and had my brother in '63.

are there really precise year cut-offs? that seems ridiculous

then again, i ask about the spongebob thing because it's only the younger millenials and the older gen zs that have been 'influenced' by it imo. in high school (i was born 88) everyone in my grade was pretty split on either indulging in spongebob or considering ourselves too old for it.

it IS an important touchstone tho, more than most pop culture of the time

The baby boom was a fairly clear-cut demographic phenomenon with agreed-upon cut-offs. It seems much less clearer for subsequent 'generations', which, afaict are made up by journalists and marketers.

"much less clear"

Eveningstar otm. The more you look into it, the more arbitrary all this is. That's why I started by just considering them as signifiers of decades.

spongebob is great and should not be sullied by association w human reproduction

you _do_ smoke a lot of weed don't you?

(I've never seen Spongebob so maybe that settles it?)

I smoke 0 weed and stand 100% in solidarity with contenderizer on this matter

tom kinney is probably gen x, and kaz is probably boomer, but i think their sponge-bobbiness cred is unimpeachable.

i'm not generation spongebob btw, i'm ren & stimpy reprazent, but i have no ill will towards generation spongebob like i do towards generation 12 oz mouse.