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I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by Miller-Boyett Productions.

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

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I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

If you don't mind my asking, zachlyon, what makes you sure of this, considering that you were five years old when the WWW first became freely available to the public and only started high school after high-speed fully-graphic Internet was completely pervasive in our culture? As far as I can tell, you don't have much pre-Internet experience to compare. I'm just old enough to remember the pre-Internet world - when I was not be able to access JUST ABOUT ANY PIECE OF INFORMATION I WANT AT ANY TIME or to communicate nearly instantly with anyone anywhere as long as they have a hookup - and it seems pretty fundamentally different to me.

this is all true; i started living on the internet when i was about 10, which i don't think is that far off from kids born ten years ago. i just don't think it's as big of a factor as people like to make it out to be. my sister is six years older than me, still a millennial, but she definitely remembers time before the internet better than i do (tbh i've always thought early 80s was the end of Gen X, so i've always seen her as being on the generational edge). but she and i still have a very similar experience with the internet right now and i don't think our lives are too different because she spent more of her youth without it. i guess my point is that the internet is such a huge, defining force that pretty much everyone under a certain age has been affected by it similarly, even if it came to them at different times. i don't think the relevance the internet has much to do with how old everyone was when it hit, because we've all basically ended up in the same place anyway.

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

*of the internet

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

my sister is six years older than me, still a millennial, but she definitely remembers time before the internet better than i do (tbh i've always thought early 80s was the end of Gen X, so i've always seen her as being on the generational edge). but she and i still have a very similar experience with the internet right now and i don't think our lives are too different because she spent more of her youth without it. i guess my point is that the internet is such a huge, defining force that pretty much everyone under a certain age has been affected by it similarly, even if it came to them at different times. i don't think the relevance the internet has much to do with how old everyone was when it hit, because we've all basically ended up in the same place anyway.

thing is, of course you're not gonna see much cultural difference between siblings born six years apart, no matter what generational group they ostensibly belong to. distinctions like boomer/genex/millennial/wired make more sense when discussing the differences (real and/or imagined) between people born 20, 30, 40 or more years apart. sometimes these differences are obvious, and sometimes they're quite subtle. like, i don't think we'll have a real grasp on just how different internet-saturated "generation text" is from the generations that came before them until we get another 20 or 30 years down the road, until we start to see the differences between them and whatever comes next. sometimes it's easier to define things in terms of what they aren't than what they are.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

^^^

literally everybody who believes in "generations" is an idiot, fuck you Gertrude Stein

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

what did gertrude stein ever do to deserve underrated aerosmith bootlegs?

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

This, I'm guessing?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah shouldn't lose sight of that. it's like astrology but a tiny bit more legitimate xp

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

o i know, but she was a doll, really

http://www.observer.com/files/2011/07/3165786-220x300.jpg

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

apparently the american govt takes generations p seriously and floats a "report" around telling employees how to deal with ppl of different ages based on generational characteristics.

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

aero OTM

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

the american govt takes generations p seriously and floats a "report" around telling employees how to deal with ppl of different ages based on generational characteristics.

This is for real?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

well there is some actualy importance w/r/t demographic bubbles and there is some evidence for political loyalties sticking so there's not 'nothing' but it is kinda funny how like 10 people in paris were 'an entire generation of americans'

iatee, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

the greatest generation: dead, perhaps in need of burial
silent generation: poor bowel control, buy vinyl chairs
boomers: remember to trim benefits and pensions before they retire
generation x: probably stoned, keep and eye on bathroom breaks
millenials: thank god for reduced expectations
generation z: they are the future, kill them now

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

addendum: AN eye, ffs

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

This is for real?

gf worked for NIH last summer and found a copy in the office. seriously looked like it was copied off wikipedia, boiled down to shit like "gen xers are grumpy and irritable so be gentle with them" etc

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

Govt employee advice for generational dealings
Greatest Generation: Archie Bunker poster in yr office, racist jokes
Silent Generation: offer them free oranges to get them onside
Boomers: have a ready supply of quaaludes, mention woodstock & Reagan
Gen Xers: wear a flannel shirt, drink a slurpee and talk about Scooby Doo, act bored
Millennials: participatory gold stars at all times
generation z: message them through FB

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

i mean it is true that at particular times in history particular things happen to people who are of a particular age, like for instance most of them die in a war, or someone tells them about weed; it's not totally insane to assume that these things have describable cultural implications; it's just necessarily reductive, but since it at least tries to engage w/ history it's more interesting to talk about than most of the other busybusybusy ways humans invent to earnestly categorize each other (i myself am an ENFP, or something).

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i think one of the useful things that generational categories do is to clearly demonstrate their own arbitrariness and limitations

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

I'm part of the Pepsi generation but I hate Pepsi and this really fucks with my spiritual development

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

the pepsi generation commercials came out just as i was learning what "generation x" meant and i seriously thought my generation was called generation pepsi

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

irl lols

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

icon of a generation
http://www.geektechnique.org/images/644.jpg

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

Which generation is this?

http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

Or this?

http://archives.starbulletin.com/96/06/04/business/pepsi.gif

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

(Crystal pepsi was OK, btw. Pepsi Kona was butt)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

did crystal pepsi just taste like pepsi?

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

with crystal meth in it

Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

the 90s were weird

Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

^ had forgotten all about the clear beverage craze

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

like anyone is spending a lot of time imagining "how good this tastes"

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

remember Crystal Gravy?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/291086/saturday-night-live-crystal-gravy

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

crystal waters was way more popular than all of the above at the time

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

re "right now" - god, i hated that song so much

right now, michael is thinking about a SOLO project

right now, ed's got his hands full

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

the generational divide splits those who remember life before "100% Pure Love" and "Gypsy Woman."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

Based on this model, baby boom years for other countries regarded for having a baby boom are as follows:

Ireland 1946–1982

lol Catholics

NSFW Australia (seandalai), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

Crystal Pepsi, iirc, tasted a little like flat 7-Up. Which was not totally unlike:

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2008/11/1_123125_2152319_2180454_2204595_081126_drink_zima.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

okay if my generation was any carbonated beverage it would have to have been this, surely

http://www.travelnotes.de/computer/bilder/jolt.jpg

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

it's SO gen-x to sniff at contenderizer's list of gen-x traits...lemme guess, you're grad students too! awwwwww...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

goddamn it alfred

http://youtu.be/zQX2q6WCrbE

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

wow I had always assumed that crystal pepsi was regular pepsi just clear

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

that it was just another 7-upy soda is disappointing, what's the point of that

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

I had no idea kona pepsi was a thing

wtf

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

srsly who told gen Xers they had good ideas?? xp

Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

if our generation designed crystal pepsi it would be way better, also probably an app

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

made with real crystals too I bet

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link


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