I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by Miller-Boyett Productions.
― I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
^
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
If you don't mind my asking, zachlyon, what makes you sure of this, considering that you were five years old when the WWW first became freely available to the public and only started high school after high-speed fully-graphic Internet was completely pervasive in our culture? As far as I can tell, you don't have much pre-Internet experience to compare. I'm just old enough to remember the pre-Internet world - when I was not be able to access JUST ABOUT ANY PIECE OF INFORMATION I WANT AT ANY TIME or to communicate nearly instantly with anyone anywhere as long as they have a hookup - and it seems pretty fundamentally different to me.
this is all true; i started living on the internet when i was about 10, which i don't think is that far off from kids born ten years ago. i just don't think it's as big of a factor as people like to make it out to be. my sister is six years older than me, still a millennial, but she definitely remembers time before the internet better than i do (tbh i've always thought early 80s was the end of Gen X, so i've always seen her as being on the generational edge). but she and i still have a very similar experience with the internet right now and i don't think our lives are too different because she spent more of her youth without it. i guess my point is that the internet is such a huge, defining force that pretty much everyone under a certain age has been affected by it similarly, even if it came to them at different times. i don't think the relevance the internet has much to do with how old everyone was when it hit, because we've all basically ended up in the same place anyway.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
*of the internet
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
my sister is six years older than me, still a millennial, but she definitely remembers time before the internet better than i do (tbh i've always thought early 80s was the end of Gen X, so i've always seen her as being on the generational edge). but she and i still have a very similar experience with the internet right now and i don't think our lives are too different because she spent more of her youth without it. i guess my point is that the internet is such a huge, defining force that pretty much everyone under a certain age has been affected by it similarly, even if it came to them at different times. i don't think the relevance the internet has much to do with how old everyone was when it hit, because we've all basically ended up in the same place anyway.
thing is, of course you're not gonna see much cultural difference between siblings born six years apart, no matter what generational group they ostensibly belong to. distinctions like boomer/genex/millennial/wired make more sense when discussing the differences (real and/or imagined) between people born 20, 30, 40 or more years apart. sometimes these differences are obvious, and sometimes they're quite subtle. like, i don't think we'll have a real grasp on just how different internet-saturated "generation text" is from the generations that came before them until we get another 20 or 30 years down the road, until we start to see the differences between them and whatever comes next. sometimes it's easier to define things in terms of what they aren't than what they are.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists
^^^
literally everybody who believes in "generations" is an idiot, fuck you Gertrude Stein
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
what did gertrude stein ever do to deserve underrated aerosmith bootlegs?
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
This, I'm guessing?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
yeah shouldn't lose sight of that. it's like astrology but a tiny bit more legitimate xp
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
o i know, but she was a doll, really
http://www.observer.com/files/2011/07/3165786-220x300.jpg
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
apparently the american govt takes generations p seriously and floats a "report" around telling employees how to deal with ppl of different ages based on generational characteristics.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
aero OTM
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
the american govt takes generations p seriously and floats a "report" around telling employees how to deal with ppl of different ages based on generational characteristics.This is for real?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
well there is some actualy importance w/r/t demographic bubbles and there is some evidence for political loyalties sticking so there's not 'nothing' but it is kinda funny how like 10 people in paris were 'an entire generation of americans'
― iatee, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
the greatest generation: dead, perhaps in need of burialsilent generation: poor bowel control, buy vinyl chairsboomers: remember to trim benefits and pensions before they retiregeneration x: probably stoned, keep and eye on bathroom breaksmillenials: thank god for reduced expectationsgeneration z: they are the future, kill them now
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
addendum: AN eye, ffs
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
This is for real?
gf worked for NIH last summer and found a copy in the office. seriously looked like it was copied off wikipedia, boiled down to shit like "gen xers are grumpy and irritable so be gentle with them" etc
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
Govt employee advice for generational dealingsGreatest Generation: Archie Bunker poster in yr office, racist jokes Silent Generation: offer them free oranges to get them onsideBoomers: have a ready supply of quaaludes, mention woodstock & ReaganGen Xers: wear a flannel shirt, drink a slurpee and talk about Scooby Doo, act boredMillennials: participatory gold stars at all timesgeneration z: message them through FB
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it is true that at particular times in history particular things happen to people who are of a particular age, like for instance most of them die in a war, or someone tells them about weed; it's not totally insane to assume that these things have describable cultural implications; it's just necessarily reductive, but since it at least tries to engage w/ history it's more interesting to talk about than most of the other busybusybusy ways humans invent to earnestly categorize each other (i myself am an ENFP, or something).
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i think one of the useful things that generational categories do is to clearly demonstrate their own arbitrariness and limitations
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm part of the Pepsi generation but I hate Pepsi and this really fucks with my spiritual development
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
the pepsi generation commercials came out just as i was learning what "generation x" meant and i seriously thought my generation was called generation pepsi
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
irl lols
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.colnect.net/images/f/458/577/75-PEPSI-Generation-NeXt.jpg
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
icon of a generationhttp://www.geektechnique.org/images/644.jpg
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
Which generation is this?
http://whitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/crystalpep.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
Or this?
http://archives.starbulletin.com/96/06/04/business/pepsi.gif
(Crystal pepsi was OK, btw. Pepsi Kona was butt)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
did crystal pepsi just taste like pepsi?
― iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
with crystal meth in it
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
the 90s were weird
^ had forgotten all about the clear beverage craze
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yom--bK-zn0
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
like anyone is spending a lot of time imagining "how good this tastes"
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
remember Crystal Gravy?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/291086/saturday-night-live-crystal-gravy
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
crystal waters was way more popular than all of the above at the time
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
re "right now" - god, i hated that song so much
right now, michael is thinking about a SOLO project
right now, ed's got his hands full
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
the generational divide splits those who remember life before "100% Pure Love" and "Gypsy Woman."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
Based on this model, baby boom years for other countries regarded for having a baby boom are as follows:Ireland 1946–1982
Ireland 1946–1982
lol Catholics
― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
Crystal Pepsi, iirc, tasted a little like flat 7-Up. Which was not totally unlike:
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2008/11/1_123125_2152319_2180454_2204595_081126_drink_zima.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
okay if my generation was any carbonated beverage it would have to have been this, surely
http://www.travelnotes.de/computer/bilder/jolt.jpg
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
it's SO gen-x to sniff at contenderizer's list of gen-x traits...lemme guess, you're grad students too! awwwwww...
― Iago Galdston, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
goddamn it alfred
http://youtu.be/zQX2q6WCrbE
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQX2q6WCrbE&ob=av2e
wow I had always assumed that crystal pepsi was regular pepsi just clear
― iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
that it was just another 7-upy soda is disappointing, what's the point of that
― iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
I had no idea kona pepsi was a thing
wtf
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
srsly who told gen Xers they had good ideas?? xp
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
if our generation designed crystal pepsi it would be way better, also probably an app
― iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
made with real crystals too I bet
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link