worst generation

also if greatest generation = worst generation then we have a contradiction so by reductio it's not that

see, logicians are good for something

do u gen X'ers think of Obama as one someone from your generation?

Nah, dude seems oldish to me, but I'm on the young end of Gen-X. Plus that whole thing where all fully-functioning adults seem oldish to me.

obama is def gen x

a. sold out

if obama is a gen x'er i feel like i have a whole new take on the last 4 years

lol iatee

I think of Obama as gen x

clinton was also a tv person but u could taste the boomer thru the airwaves

that's a good point. i guess i see obama as being on the cusp. just a little too old to be ggwau one of us (i'm already old for a gen exor), but not obviously boomer-ish like clinton was. cool dad type, but not too much of either.

http://366weirdmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/naked_lunch.jpg

Every agent defects; every resister sells out.

http://www.artistdirect.com/video/every-generation-got-it-s-own-disease/23336

A square wants to come on hip xp

Seems v wrong to me that someone b in 1961, i.e. over 50 now, could be a Gen X-er.

xp - of course, everyone else just is or isn't

Like "boomer minor vs boomer major".

W obv boomer major.

Generation Wurst

Not a cola but definitely generational:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/OK_Soda_Original_4.jpg

oh god, i remember when that came out! i think that's around the time me & my then-bf started referring to "K, the alternative consonant"

yeah, was so weird. like a "serious" alternative soda. was great to see clowes getting his work out there for the 7-11 massive to see, but otherwise incomprehensible. plus kind of gross.

also goes back to my earlier comments about gen x's "obsession with marketing". suggests the inverse of what's commonly assumed: what made gen x special wasn't, perhaps, their anxiety about being marketed to, but rather the ways in which corporate culture catered to that anxiety. the self-consciously robotized vacuity and despair of ok soda.

Suck.com had a thing talking about Tom Brokaw's coining of "the greatest generation" being part of an effort to change how people thought about old folks, so that Gen Xers didn't treat old Boomers with the same disdain that Boomers exhibited to their own parents. So yeah, still self-directed.

oh look, here it is:

"Year of the Rat"

http://www.suck.com/daily/98/12/29/

from 13 years ago, written by Reason.com's ex-libertarian-in-chief Nick Gillespie

When OK Cola came out, my friend started calling Pepsi Epsi-Pey.

Crystal Skeksi

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 9:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IRL LOL at this, thanking u.

:D

People born the same year as Obama:

Tom Araya (Slayer)
Scott Baio
George Clooney
Ann Coulter
Douglas Coupland
Wayne Coyne (Flaming Lips)
Alfonso Cuarón (Dir. Children of Men)
Dinesh D'Souza
Kim Deal (Pixies/Breeders)
El DeBarge
Lady Diana
Billy Duffy (The Cult)
The Edge (U2)
Laurence Fishburne
Michael J. Fox
Vincent Gallo
James Gandolfini
Boy George
Ricky Gervais
Martin Gore
Wayne Gretzky
Woody Harrelson
Bill Hicks
Stephen Hillenburg (creator of Sponge Bob Square Pants)
Peter Jackson
Johnny B. (Jerky Boys)
Daniel Johnston
cEvin Key (Skinny Puppy)
Sascha Konietzko (KMFDM)
kd lang
George Lopez
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
David Lovering (Pixies)
Ralph Macchio
Wynton Marsalis
Bruce McCulloch (Kids in the Hall)
Kevin McDonald (Kids in the Hall)
Todd McFarlane (creator of Spawn)
Tim Meadows
David Mills (writer for The Wire)
Jonathan Mostow (Dir. Terminator 3)
Larry Mullen (U2)
Eddie Murphy
Dave Mustaine (Megadeath)
Vince Neil (Motley Crue)
Michele Norris (All things Considered)
Debbi Peterson (Bangles)
Paul Raven (Killing Joke, Ministry)
Panna Rittikrai (Dir Ong Bak 2)
Henry Rollins (Black Flag)
Tim Roth
Arundhati Roy (God of Small Things)
Meg Ryan
Zander Schloss (Circle Jerks, Repo man)
Campbell Scott
Amy Sedaris
Will Self
Chad Smith (Red Hot Chilli Peppers)
Aaron Sorkin
George Stephanopoulos
John Stockwell (Top Gun)
Sarah Sutton (Nyssa in Dr. Who)
Andy Taylor (Duran Duran)
Lea Thompson
Titus Welliver (Silas Adams on Deadwood)
Irvine Welsh
Simon West (Dir. Con Air)
Forest Whitaker
Kip Winger
Michael Winterbottom (Dir. 24 Hour Party People)

Obama is Gen X

Kip Winger for Presidetn

He took down that 17-year-old HARDCORE. DAMMMNNN.

*pirouette*

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/3803974/Kip+Winger+KIPWINGER.jpg

AP has a point. america's post-WWII baby boom was in decline by the late 50s, and that's definitely a list of people who defined gen x more than boomer culture. i mean wayne coyne, kim deal, mj fox, eddie murphy, rollins, meg ryan, stephanopoulos, sheez. maybe gen x runs more 60 to late 70s.

Obv the borderlines are permeable. First wave punk rock is pretty much all late boomers born in the mid-late 50s.

You guys know that, like, John Lennon and Bob Dylan were not themselves boomers, right?

yeah but the people that defined gen x werent the actual gen x people! i mean yeah every teenage jerk had a rollins spoken word record but rollins was already old by then.

xpost so yeah what he said

In any case, if the people on that list (mostly celebrities from my early childhood) are Gen X, I'm definitely not part of Gen X. When did Gretzky peak? 1987?

xpost

i mean james gandolfini is on the list and he got popular during the millenials so he must be one right

betty white is generation z

generation zzzzzzzz

Obv the borderlines are permeable. First wave punk rock is pretty much all late boomers born in the mid-late 50s.

AP and sund4r both OTM. A) the barriers are permeable, with years of overlap, and B) the figures who influence and represent the culture of a "generation", especially in its early days, aren't always precisely of it.

Vince Neil Generation O_o

my xp - which just restates the obvious point that the culture that defines any given generation is probably in large part the product of the previous generation. the boomers were influenced by the music of artists who were born at the end of the silent generation (like otis redding and bob dylan), gen exors were influenced by folks born at the end of the boom era, banksy and young jeezy are gen exors, etc.

Punk & Proto-punk Boomers:
Siouxsie Sioux, b. 1957
Chad Polling (The Suburbs), b. 1957
Johny Lydon, b. 1956
Joey Ramone, b. 1951
David Byrne, b. 1952
Richard Hell, b. 1949
Gerald Casale (DEVO), b. 1948
Iggy Pop, b. 1947
David Bowie, b. 1947

a couple avant-garde dudes from the Silent Generation:
Captain Beefheart, b 1941
Frank Zappa, b 1940

Jello Biafra b. 1958

Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables was released spring semester, Obama's freshmen year at college.

Oops, sophmore year.

Siouxsie and the Banshees released their first album first semester of Obama's Senior year.

^^^senior year of high school

Albums released during Obama's freshman year of high school:

Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
Caress of Steel - Rush
The Who by Numbers - The Who
Rock of the Westies - Elton John
Come Taste the Band - Deep purple
Dreamboat Annie - Heart
Lazy Afternoon - Barbara Streisand
Nighthawks at the Diner - Tom Waits
Radio-Activity - Kraftwerk
Sun and Steel - Iron Butterfly
Zuma - Neil Young
ABBA's Greatest Hits
A Night at the Opera - Queen
Crisis? What Crisis? - Supertramp
Discreet Music - Brian Eno
Nazareth's Greatest Hits
Equinox - Styx
We Sold Our Soul for Rock 'n' Roll - Black Sabbath
Station to Station - David Bowie
Futuristic Dragon - T. Rex
Look into the Future - Journey
Run with the Pack - Bad Company
Eagles Greatest Hits
A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
Diana Ross self-titled
The Third Reich 'n Roll - The Residents
Destroyer - Kiss
Sad Wings of Destiny - Judas Priest
Ramones self-titled
Rocks - Aerosmith
High Voltage - AC/DC
The Royal Scam - Steely Dan
Turnstiles - Billy Joel
Alice Cooper Goes to Hell - Alice Cooper

That's 1976, right?

Rocks was 1975 though.