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That is fantastic, max.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

What's surprising in Goldberg's case is that he has been called out for the same résumé padding before, when his previous book was published.

Maybe it's not surprising

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Bill Dedman is enjoying himself:

For $2,000 to $7,500 per person, one can accompany the "Pulitzer-nominated columnist" and others from the National Review on a cruise to the Bahamas and Grand Cayman. His many liberal targets have included former Vice President Al Gore, whom he derided as a "serial exaggerator."

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

countdown to "at least he never claimed to be an indian" in 10, 9...

goole, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I had not heard of the Warren heritage claptrap. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/5/8/warren-maginn-faust-letter/

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/05/elizabeth-warrens-native-american-question.html

I don't care, but this is a very silly thing for a smart and competent public figure like Warren to say:

I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened, that was clearly not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off.

Which just muddied the waters.

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

it makers perfect sense to me. lots of people with a certain background but very weak affiliation to it are really sort of contingent and capricious in how and when they self-identify. this is especially so when they don't imagine they will become polarizing public figures subject to intensive scrutiny.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

It's also not crazy that you might get invitations to luncheons or such. At lots of institutions, various minority professional associations find out who's who from company directories or the like.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

That makes sense to me. I don't doubt Warren's sincerity. I still think her statement is one that will not be immediately clear to most who read it.

When I googled the controversy, I came across a massive swamp of rightwing concern-trolling turning this, on the flimsiest of excuses, into a complaint about affirmative action (!), and peppering their faux-outrage with racist bullshit like "faux-cahontas" and "smoke signals"

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

didn't know Robin Roberts was suspected of being queer

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't know shep was!

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

seriously?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

for real!

goole, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

he wears lavender lipstick

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

Dollar Bill 05/10/12 10:06
Shep Smith, .....how shall I put this, ......likes Broadway show tunes.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

To get to the corner I had to go through

http://global.nationalreview.com/images/layover_tyrannny_bigclick.png

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Big Jonah Golderg ad, thinks it's funny.

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

from the orig article:

I don't mind the word "white" in either of those expressions. Conservatism, Inc. or otherwise, is a white people's movement, a scattering of outliers notwithstanding.

Always has been, always will be. I have attended at least a hundred conservative gatherings, conferences, cruises, and jamborees: let me tell you, there ain't too many raisins in that bun. I was in and out of the National Review offices for twelve years, and the only black person I saw there, other than when Herman Cain came calling, was Alex, the guy who runs the mail room. (Hey, Alex!)

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

This isn't because conservatism is hostile to blacks and mestizos. Very much the contrary, especially in the case of Conservatism Inc. They fawn over the occasional nonwhite with a puppyish deference that fairly fogs the air with embarrassment. (Q: What do you call the one black guy at a gathering of 1,000 Republicans? A: "Mr. Chairman.")

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

lmao derb u rascal

max, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

It's just that conservative ideals like self-sufficiency and minimal dependence on government have no appeal to underperforming minorities—groups who, in the statistical generality, are short of the attributes that make for group success in a modern commercial nation.

Of what use would it be to them to embrace such ideals? They would end up even more decisively pooled at the bottom of society than they are currently.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, Alex!

max, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

How hard was he struggling to restrain himself from adding "What up, dawg!" to that

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

derb surely twisting the knife in his old employers here

goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think his chemo-brain is permanent now.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

ahh fuck shoulda checked the thread, sorry.

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

i'm gonna pretend that's derb singing Van Halen's Unchained

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

Kathryn Jean Lopez ‏@kathrynlopez

wow, what a big building the national rifle association ha

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

has

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

cause she got shot before she could finish tweeting the word 'has'?

Mordy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

remainder of tweet to be pried from her cold dead hands

Djibril Citté (onimo), Monday, 21 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

aaaaand Chait's excellent response.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that is infuriating

Jonathan Bernstein's response is also good, and differs from Chait's

http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2012/05/in-which-conservatives-get-their-own.html

goole, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

more antirevisionism

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_05/civil_rights_revisionism037520.php

is it me or has the corner been totally silent about this?

goole, Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

btw the comments on the Bernstein article are closer to footnotes: good stuff.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

ha i read those a couple days ago but didn't put together who commenter "kdwmson". man he really does come off like a dumb asshole.

goole, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

who "kdwmson" was, i mean

goole, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

"the klan were all democrats" is nearing "hitler was a vegetarian" memetic (ha, i couldn't help but write "emetic" there) territory

goole, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

From the Chait piece:

Buckley sneered at the double standard of liberal Democrats — in 1965, he complained, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey attended the funeral of a white woman shot by the Klan for riding in a car with a black man, but did not attend the funeral of a white cop shot by a black man.

Is this the genesis of the "Why are Al and Jesse protesting about (high profile crime with a minority victim) and not saying anything about (obscure, pulled from local paper case with a white victim)?" thing?

Hauntingly Unemployed American (President Keyes), Saturday, 26 May 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

Why I Am Challenging Jonah Goldberg to a Fight for Charity. (via the always delightful Roy Edroso.)

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Steyn feeds the homophobe trolls

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

omg the comments

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Part of the problem is defining who is gay. When I was younger I used to get a fair number of propositions from acquaintances of mine who were gay or bi. If I were to have accepted offers of oral sex would that have made me gay or just opportunistic? There was a short lived bit of pop culture not too long ago about LUGs, lesbian until graduation. So were these girls to be counted as gay? (Then there is the old joke that no woman is more than 3 drinks from a lesbian encounter.)
Also, a large part of our cultural news is based on certain specific large urban areas. These are the places where the concentration of homosexuals is significantly higher than the norm. I'm in Georgia and as far as I know there aren't that many gay venues in my immediate vicinity. However I do know that if for some reason I needed to find someone who is gay it would be simple enough to go to Atlanta and visit Little Five Points. When you come right down to it, your average midwestern gay teenager is probably just waiting to be old enough to move somewhere where he's not one of the few gay teens in town.

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

"if for some reason"

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

The campaign to lie about the number of homosexuals has been underway for quite some time. I've read about instances where expressing belief of anything less than 10% is judged a nigh hate crime.
"Everybody is gay." Your favorite athlete. Any given construction worker (not just the one in the Village people). Hitler. Anybody who finds homosexuality disgusting and/or morally objectionable.
Pffft. I'll take the under on 2%. 1% if you're talking the authentic kind and don't include the ones just trying to upset their parents, hang with with the "hip" crowd, or run some sort of scam.
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Helloitsme 06/04/12 07:32
Why do you care how many gay people there are? Are you afraid you will catch it? Never ceases to amaze me how the supposed individualist crowd feels so threatened by the simple idea of letting people be who they are. I've really come to believe that some people feel threatened because of their own secret attractions. Otherwise, whats it to you?

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

that article is more about popular innumeracy than anything to do with homsexuality.

if you asked americans what % of us are black, the mean answer would be about 40%

you ask americans how much of the budget is spent on any miniscule program (foreign aid is a perennial example) and the answer is never less than a quarter.

goole, Monday, 4 June 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link


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