the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

I'm pretty apathetic to all of this, but then something like this comes along: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/05/07/479229/house-gop-military-cut-programs-poor/

Santorum has endorsed Romney. With that kind of clout...

I'm pretty apathetic to all of this, but then something like this comes along: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/05/07/479229/house-gop-military-cut-programs-poor/

― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Monday, May 7, 2012 7:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As CAP’s Melissa Boteach, Lawrence Korb and Max Hoffman noted in a report last month, with the cuts they are calling for, House Republicans will be protecting “largely useless” weapons systems, preserving funding for unnecessary programs like the V-22 Osprey, and adding two nuclear submarines to the U.S. military’s already “overwhelming preponderance of sea power.”

At the same time, the GOP plan would, for example, cut food stamps for 2 million people and reduce the same benefits for 44 million others. Nearly 300,000 school children would lose free school meals and hundreds of thousands could lose their Medicaid or CHIP coverage.

sort of like Bill Clinton's abolition of this cost (or would've) him your '96 re-election vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid_to_Families_with_Dependent_Children

There are no useless weapons systems! They create JOBS.

I was thinking about welfare reform when I posted that quote. Mostly because I waiting for you to post it.

As far as I can tell, there are Democrats and Republicans over here, and there are the mysterious entities (aliens? ghost pirates?) on the other side who maintain, and occasionally improve the welfare state.

I have no idea who these mysterious entities that create and protect the policy I like that somehow exists. And I have no idea how the ratio of Democrats to Republicans might affect this.

All I know is that Democrats and Republicans are indistinguishable. This is proven by NAFTA.

PS I voted for Clinton in '92, but not in '96

I think i was trying to send a clear message to someone

you did it just because you knew that eventually ilxor would exist and you could tell us about it and we could applaud you for your principled stand

hahaha. no, I did it just because I knew that eventually Dr. Morbious would exist and be smug on political and movie threads and I wanted him to be wrong again

oh, have I been wrong? Haven't noticed, need more coffee.

...and I guess I know what I'd do in San Francisco this Saturday night.

http://www.gp.org/press/pr-state.php?ID=506

I like Rose Aguilar

I finally read that Sunday Times Mag piece on the '08 Wall St Obama donors who think he hasn't kissed their ass enough. Start this country over please.

It also illustrates the quadrennial presidential auction as vividly as anything else I've read.

I don't know why I keep being surprised by how thin-skinned and obvious these guys are.

http://www.baywindows.com/romney-ill-be-better-than-ted-for-gay-rights-53688

Have you guys talked about this article? This guy's position seems to have evolved.

Yeah, gawker or buzzfeed or whomever was talking about this and, as I pointed out yesterday, at least Obama, for whatever reasons, evolved in the right direction.

Romney has a lot of work ahead. I don't see how he lines up with, much less defeats, Obama in November. Anything's possible, but Romney doesn't strike me as a come-from-behind maverick. Then again, that's my personal opinion. I'll leave it to the states to decide.

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2012/05/got-to-let-it-show.html

snap crackle or pop?

So Romney was a dick in high school

lol Dennis Perrin never gets old.

he does, but much more naturally than the obsession w/ Romney trivia vs war crimes does.

as naturally as your obsession with posting in the wrong threads

I know I introduced you to Greenwald only a couple years ago but still

I don't think you did.

Nothing wrong with this thread, ain't nothin goin on but an election, whether you're a marriage-obsessed idiot gay or President Machiavelli himself.

I posted some Bambait in the other thread.

Romney's base will like that story of him grabbing his high school classmate and forcibly cutting his hair

they could (but won't) point out that no one cares about Bam's bullying.

http://jahanzebjz.tumblr.com/post/2753963879/victims-of-us-drone-attacks-in-pakistan-drone

the release of the romney bullying story was deliberately timed to follow obama's gay marriage announcement, y/n? i mean, it had to be, right?

the obsession w/ Romney trivia vs war crimes

probably should be Romney trvia (+ likely war crimes) vs war crimes tbh

fine, they're the same, except for nasty schoolboy pranks + dog roofing.

yes, because those are the only differences

i mean, i get that you don't like things Obama has done, and I know that it really really irks you that perceive a lot of 'liberals' as being full-throated in their support and love for the man, so you have to compensate by overstating your case, but we're all pretty reasonable here. you don't have to do that with us. it's okay. you can tone it down.

trivial pursuit hate crimes edition

ok, just let me know when the overstatement comes in.

I admit the dead bombed kids may not have been gay.

It's really weird how we let this Obama character murder all these children. Very unpresidential.

If the dead bombed kids had been gay they were probably gonna be beheaded anyway.

Morbs, I'm not sure anybody is arguing for the atrocious acts of Obama and the military here, but you basically saying that there is only one issue (WAR CRIMES) and since Romney and Obama are the both the same it doesn't matter is really, really, stupid. I mean, America is a shitty, shitty country, no matter who is running it. That's got a lot to do with the people, of course, but whatever. But somehow saying that the guy who doesn't even believe in civil unions or planned parenthood or infrastructure investment or non-voucher medicare is "the exact same" as Obama is ridiculous. As shitty as Obama is, he's not Romney, who would not only NOT address any of your issues with the current policies, he would make a lot more much worse.

So yes, you are overcompensating by treating us all like we don't know. But maybe you really are impressed with Dennis Perrin's tedious, condescending, and rather obvious writing. If so, welcome to the fucking rest of us.

If the dead bombed kids had been gay they were probably gonna be beheaded anyway.

in afghanistan?

http://publicintelligence.net/afghanistan-human-terrain-team-pashtun-homosexuality-report/

i was being really flippant with that remark tbf

http://i.imgur.com/tReka.png

it's okay. you can tone it down.

i really don't think he can.

you basically saying that there is only one issue

I have more, and never seriously meant they were THE SAME. They do both fall under the minimum level of humanity required to get my vote, is all.

welcome to America dude.

greatest country on earth iirc

Looks like Obama's nice but pointless declaration has now become an issue in this election: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/10/481772/romney-adviser-gillespie-constitutional-marriage-ba/

We've had the lesser of two evils system since 1776! (xp)

Actually for a while there were the articles of confederation so nobody got to be president

haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qel2_d-kNX4

she is awesome. also, i think carney's 'o look i am pulling back the curtain on your media trickery' schtick here only really connects with the dumber and more gullible corners of the voting public.

"i'm trying to go meta-meta on you" - oh please