Alec Baldwin: Hollywood's King of Menace

i just went 'beta' reading that info

Good choice of game, it was far better than frickin' Galaxian.

i liked centipede - also ive often thought working on a soap opera as an actor or a writer would be pretty amzing

going beta.

i mean that's a pathetic story but it's awesome.

I love him. The way he insulted Seacrest to his face at the Golden Globes was also awesome.

dudes he was high on coke and just needed to chill out and play some galaga - not really such a remarkable story - we all been there

o whatd he say to seacrest i missed that???

Seeing all sorts of reports now about him being hospitalized.

released within an hour?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/02/alec-baldwin-examined-at-hospital-following-misunderstanding-according-to-rep.html

His daughter phoned 911 and Baldwin had to go to hospital to prove he hadn't taken pills?

OK, so he was completely stoned had taken one too many Ambien, and that's how he ended up at hospital. Where presumably he woke up going - where the fuck am I?!?!

Alec Baldwin offers advice to Charlie Sheen

Conan has moved on and his great talent is undiminished by his difficult experiences. I had wanted to say to him back then what I will now offer to Charlie. You can't win. Really. You can't. When executives at studios and networks move up to the highest ranks, they are given a book. The book is called How to Handle Actors. And one principle held dear in that book is that no actor is greater than the show itself when the show is a hit. And, in that regard, they are often right. Add to that the fact that the actor who is torturing their diseased egos is a drug addled, porn star-squiring, near Joycean Internet ranter, and they really want you to go.

Granted, it didn't get real until you insulted them. And your suit may have real grounds.

But you know what you should do? Take a nap. Get a shower. Call Chuck. Go on Letterman and make an apology. Write a huge check to the B'Nai Brith. And then beg for your job back. Your fans demand it. You will never win because when you are as big a douchebag as some of these guys are, they have no choice but to snuff you. (Do you secretly want to get snuffed? So you can go back and make movies?)

Sober up, Charlie. And get back on TV, if it's not too late. This is America. You want to really piss off Chuck and Warner Brothers and CBS? Beg for America's forgiveness. They will give it to you. And then go back. You are a great television star. And you've got the gig. As I learned from closely observing Tony Bennett so I could impersonate him on SNL, this is supposed to be fun.

PS...buy Cryer a really nice car.

haha his "here's the thing" podcast is both pretty good and really hard to take seriously

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/heresthething/

i mean, "so what" as bumper music. dude you're killing me.

lol

ok he just used the phrase "sensuous quotient" when talking to kristen wiig

i mean, "so what" as bumper music. dude you're killing me.

Pink? Miles Davis? Ministry?

haha

listening to the Kristen Wiig episode. alec works in this context, unsurprisingly

This MSNBC show is pretty good.

I missed it last week, but watched it tonight and it's a testament to his interview skills that I didn't flip channels while Chris Matthews was spitting all over the table talking about this and that. Michael Powell's half of the show was a far better read of what levels the show can probably reach.

Looking forward to the 2001 stars next week.

http://pagesix.com/2013/11/26/msnbc-fires-alec-baldwin/

Baldwin really used to be good, I think Lorne michaels ruined what made him good in the first place at some point. Kinda like how hanks' quest to be nu-jimmy stewart buried some of his best qualities.

i've heard AB's public radio show a couple times, lotta theatre folk, he's a decent interviewer. He got Patti LuPone to say she hated the music in Evita at first, humanized her in my eyes.

I hope WNYC doesn't fire him and end Here's The Thing. I really like those interviews: Seinfeld, Billy Joel, especially Elain Stritch.

Baldwin’s dismissal was decided on partly because of his diva-like behavior toward co-workers, a source said.
Besides demanding a humidifier because he claimed the air at 30 Rock was too dry, Baldwin alienated staffers when he demanded a separate makeup room being used by a woman with cancer who is sensitive to hairspray.
When Baldwin was told he couldn’t have his way, he allegedly bellowed at the top of his lungs, “I don’t give a f - - k if she has cancer or not, I want that f - - king makeup room.”

lol

i still love baldwin in miami blues

When Baldwin's character on 30 Rock was told he couldn’t have his way, he allegedly bellowed at the top of his lungs, “I don’t give a f - - k if she has cancer or not, I want that f - - king makeup room.”

fixed, i hope.

he does seem to be a pretty intelligent guy wrapped in a huge ego

:-(

Baldwin also spoke at length with us about MSNBC and the future of his podcast (or rather, the end of his podcast)—we'll have all of that tomorrow.

http://gothamist.com/2013/11/26/msnbc_cancels_alec_baldwins_show.php

i still love baldwin in miami blues

― https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7PvtbkH0I (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:36 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

young Baldwin was one of the all-time greats imo. Malice, Red October, Miami Blues. RIP.

his glengarry cameo is brobait but still top notch. you watch him play that role vs how he plays every role now (or so it seems) and RIP indeed.

yeah hes great in ggr. cant take nothin away from him there. I like him in The Cooler too but i get what you mean about snl ruining him.

love him in the departed but that's the best-case scenario for a post-SNL performance. maybe. didn't see him in blue jasmine, maybe it's different.

He's more of a background character in Blue Jasmine

he really madoff well in that role though.

HI DAYO!

he really madoff well in that role though.

― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:31 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

//celestial hi hat//

http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/alec-baldwin-good-bye-public-life.html

much long, very wind, so not read

lol thats an amazing read

datnng ace

I’ve had people come up to me and say, “You’re a great New Yorker. You’ve given your time and money to so many New York charities. You’re a great supporter of the arts. I like some of your movies—and some of your movies suck, actually.” (It’s New York, so people give you their unvarnished opinion.) But people in general had been very kind to me for years.

I wonder how many times outside of a charity gala someone has actually come up to him and called him a great supporter of the arts.

That is very entertaining.... he's gen OTM about the new New York and MSNBC.

kinda relieved he's given up the running for office thing, cuz let's face it lol temperament

I think he's right to call out the media for fake and exaggerated concern-mongering over isolated uses of slurs. That said I feel like Alec Baldwin expects me to care a little too much about the struggles of Alec Baldwin

i believe that hes not a virulent homophobe or whatever but hes just so un-self aware and bad at making a case for himself lol... also its so cool that he says tranny like 3 paras in while trying to prove how sensitive and cool he is

i did laff at "Mika B. is the Margaret Dumont of cable news"

the arteries of the country are now clogged with hate

detailed thread with lots of info about gun safety on set

that was a great thread, thanks for that.

particularly the clarifications on how real guns are used vs props

Wow, very well done, thanks

supposedly an assistant director shouldn't be the one handing the gun to an actor. it makes sense. the armorer had three guns on a cart, who's to say if the assistant director merely picked up the wrong one.

also I imagine it should have been shown to the assistant director first by the armorer to prove it was not loaded.

even eerier is this movie is about an accidental killing. ick

That was a great thread. It does sort of broach a different debate, especially in the CG age: when or why should *anything* dangerous be done in a movie? Car or motorcycle stunts (which have injured or killed people), helicopter stunts (which have injured or killed people), horse stunts (which have injured or killed people), explosions, guns, and so on. I just learned about this, re: Sam Fuller's "Shark!:"

During production, one of the film's stuntmen, Jose Marco, was attacked and killed on camera by a white shark that broke through protective netting. The attack was captured on film and prompted a photo spread in Life magazine. The title was changed to Shark! to cash in on the controversy

Not only did they change the name to "Shark!" they allegedly moved the alleged scene to the start of the movie. I say "allege" because I also read this, which introduces several layers of questions:

Marco was allegedly a stunt double for Burt Reynolds who was brutally attacked by a shark in 1967 while shooting an underwater scene near Manzanillo, Mexico, for a film appropriately titled Shark. According to Life Magazine, which did a story in 1968 on the filming, Marco was in the water in scuba gear alongside a subdued bull shark when a great white managed to make it through the nets protecting the area from the rest of the sea. It charged at the camera crew before launching at Marco and disemboweling the actor where he swam. Crew members tried to steer the shark away from Marco with spears, but the animal was undeterred, and the stuntman's resulting injuries were so severe that he later died at a hospital. Producers allegedly used the footage of Marcos' death in the opening scene in the movie, along with publicizing the incident as a marketing push. Director Samuel Fuller unsuccessfully attempted to have his name removed from its credits because he was dissatisfied with the editing of the film. However, a detailed investigation revealed that there was no official record of the attack, no record of a stuntman named Jose Marco, and no hospital records of the incident, although Marco was allegedly in a hospital for two days before he died. LIFE magazine had no comment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil:_The_Final_Chapter#Stuntwoman_injury_and_crew_fatality

i love this movie and this still lurks in the back of my mind when i watch it

Exclusive reporting: Before the incident, a number of crew members had taken prop guns, including the gun that killed Hutchins to go “plinking" - shooting at beer cans with live ammo to pass the timehttps://t.co/TMYy00xZzv

— TheWrap (@TheWrap) October 25, 2021

there it is. answers a lot of questions.

I have seen that headline a few times now and I still can't wrap my head around it because how fucking STUPID do you have to be to do this

I was figuring something like that might have happened.

If true, I can't think of anything more irresponsible on a movie set. That's actually infuriating.

Yeah.

You'd think that blank firing guns for films could just be reserved exclusively for that use. i.e. NEVER EVER put real bullets in them. It’s not like there’s a shortage of guns out there.

Was gonna speculate that some of those crew members were gonna wind up doing time for this but it sounds like there should've been so many redundancies in place to prevent this that it's hard to know how many people are ultimately to blame. This is like a full-blown systemic collapse.

There needs to be a system in place in order for it to collapse

Ugh

Weapons handler defense doesn't seem like a particularly good defense:

https://deadline.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-shooting-rust-hannah-gutierrez-armorer-statement-halyna-hutchins-1234864743/

It's tantamount to saying "this is not my fault, because I didn't always know what was going on."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-charged-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-set-rust-d-says-rcna7189

thread title looking prophetic

Charges against Baldwin were dismissed and production is resuming on the movie. Sooooo looking forward to when this thing hits Redbox.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-filming-to-resume/index.html

if i had shot and killed someone on the set of a movie i would simply not resume production under any circumstances

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-indicted-manslaughter-charge-rust-shooting-rcna134564

SANTA FE, N.M. — Alec Baldwin is headed to trial over the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed in 2021 after the actor's prop gun fired a live round of ammunition on the "Rust" film set.

The decision to indict Baldwin was announced Friday after a New Mexico grand jury heard evidence presented by special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis. He was charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter.

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If convicted, Baldwin could face up to 18 months in prison. A trial date has not been set.

The grand jury's indictment comes after the same New Mexico prosecutors dismissed the involuntary manslaughter charges against Baldwin in April.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rust-prosecutors-allege-armorer-hannah-211536642.html

yeah, it's kind of shocking that there was even a single round of live ammo on set

Baldwin can probably share some blame for running a shoddy production, but I honestly don't see how he could've known there was a live round in the chamber

Hannah Gutierrez found guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/06/rust-shooting-hannah-gutierrez-reed-verdict

The state also claimed that she was using marijuana during the production. Gutierrez-Reed’s defense said that the prosecution had failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she brought live rounds on to the set and argued that Hutchins’ death was the result of Baldwin pointing the weapon at the cinematographer.

“It was not in the script for Mr Baldwin to point the weapon,” defense attorney Jason Bowles said. “She didn’t know that Mr Baldwin was going to do what he did.”

...

look I definitely think more than just Gutierrez-Reed is responsible here, and Baldwin likely lied about not pulling the trigger, but she really needed some better defense attorneys.

such a weird case.. why in the hell were there live rounds on a movie set to begin with? Though Brandon Lee was killed by a blank I think, or at least that was the story at the time

it was a dummy cartridge that was made from a live round and got lodged in the barrel and essentially pushed out and into Lee by the blank when fired

xp
The most believable story is that some of the cast/crew would go out shooting with live ammo when the movie was not being made, using the production's guns, and that the separation of live ammo from blanks was done poorly.

this was a very good interview with Chad Stahleski and he talks a bit about guns on movie sets.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/john-wick-filmmaker-chad-stahelski-sequels-oscar-stunt-snubs-firearms-1235343132/

So much of your job is about safety, and you started your career in 1994 doubling for Brandon Lee after he died in an on-set accident with a gun while filming The Crow. How did you process the Rust shooting?

What happened on Rust … I wasn’t there, but the accidents that I’ve been around, seen or been part of have always been human error. It’s never mechanical. So, let’s just talk about firearms. Back in the day, when it all started, they came up with blanks. A blank is a bullet without the projectile, but they couldn’t put you and me in the same shot, 5 feet apart, and one of us pull the trigger. The concussive force coming out at the end of the barrel would be enough to shatter your skull. Accidents like that did happen and people died because of it. But in the past 10 years, they’ve come out with electronic guns, plug guns where it is impossible for anything to come out of the barrel and total CG. That’s the way we do it. That technology is out there for everybody.

Why isn’t everybody using it?

My feeling is that there’s no reason to have a live firearm on set. We can create cities and spaceships and Godzilla and all these things. We have the technology to do the same with firearms. But, for the last 100 years, Hollywood’s been using real firearms. And for prop houses, armorers or supply houses to switch over, it would make their entire stock of real firearms useless. It comes down to the fact that it would cost certain people a great deal of money to switch over. No one wants to say that, but that’s the real reason. You don’t need firearms. The alternative is just going to cost you more money

Sentenced to 18 months

https://deadline.com/2024/04/hannah-guitierrez-reed-sentenced-rust-shooting-1235885923/

i'd be a lot more sympathetic if she hadn't been reported as reckless and aloof on the set and continued to double down that it wasn't her fault even days before sentencing

otoh, that doesn't mean she's wrong that working conditions were awful and that it didn't play a role.

Baldwin saying he didn't pull the trigger was gross, esp since it's now been proven that he obviously did