Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

what's a special thank you – taking Biden out back and letting him suck our dicks?

well that's a pleasant image to start my day

good morning!

morning!

I think MoveOn are the ones with their mouths open in that scenario. God, what lackeys.

Didn't MoveOn start out as Clinton boosters? They started off on their knee pads, amiright?

but last fall they dressed themselves as warriors for the 99%.

MoveON started out as Howard Dean boosters

no, I think AP is right in that their first crusade was to "move on" from the blowjob impeachment.

MoveOn started during the Clinton impeachment.

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MoveOn did come of age during Dean's primary run, though.

Back when we were all, "Not only are we going to the blogs, Tom harkin, we're going to the web zines and AOL and Drinking Liberally and Netroots Nation and Youtube, and we're going to MySpace and Xanga and Second Life ... And we're going to Flicker and Flickster and Classmates.com and the comments section of The Washinton Times, and then we're going to Meetup.com, to take back the White House! YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Dean was pre-youtube

pre-Flickr too

it's weird when I talk to younger people who act like those things (see also Facebook, google maps, iTunes, etc.) have been around forever and will always be around forever. they will be gone in a few years guys.

to be replaced by our 24/7 cyberhelmets

Inside the beltway media elitists will never stop their simplistic analyses of equivalence and bipartisanship will they:

This helps to explain the phenomenon of Mourdock, who told CNN the morning after his victory that he’s “a huge student of American history” and informed MSNBC that bipartisanship means “Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.”

Actually, if Mourdock looks at history, the federal debt didn’t explode until the hyper-partisan era arrived. The system has broken down precisely because of the absence of collegiality and compromise: Republicans don’t yield on taxes, and Democrats resist serious spending cuts.

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The lawmakers who beat the Nazis, won the Cold War and led the nation to economic dominance didn’t do three-day workweeks in the capital and jet home on weekends; they got to know each other and learned to work with each other.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mourdock-and-judd-vs-washington/2012/05/11/gIQA3EKGIU_story.html?hpid=z2

Rand: "Call me cynical, but I didn’t think his views on marriage could get any gayer”

god i hate this doofus

http://coreyrobin.com/

interesting lefty blog

I read his book three weeks ago – not bad.

right, He's a poli-sci professor and author

lovely news on Obama and Franken coming out for mangled child laborers on the farm there.

They gave in to the Palin and others disinformation campaign that the regulation would bar family farmers from having their own kids help out. Ugh

So blaming Republicans (instead of both parties), even in nicely phrased language, won't get you on the Sunday talk shows:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/disappearing-man-followup

re Norm Ornstein

here he goes again:

In addition to teeing up another debt limit fight for the lame duck session of Congress later this year, by demanding dollar-for-dollar budget cuts in exchange for new borrowing authority, House Speaker John Boehner also insists that regardless of the election outcome, Republicans will reject higher taxes on wealthy Americans in that fight.

And to build leverage for the GOP position, he announced Tuesday that House Republicans will pass legislation before the election to extend the Bush tax cuts indefinitely.

“What also doesn’t count as ‘cuts and reforms’ are tax increases,” Boehner will say before the annual Pete Peterson Fiscal Summit in Washington, DC, according to prepared remarks. “Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”

from tpm

He has a good chance of getting what he wants

of what use is a summer without a debt ceiling fight?

Can't the Dems just give in to, say, three or four debt ceiling battles in a row in advance, to save us some time? This brinksmanship seems like a formality, right down to the "oh, this will bite the Republicans in the butt" Pollyannas.

Sorry, we need to give the inside-the-beltway columnists something to talk about. Combining 3 or 4 cave-ins into one, would prevent that

Could point, and that would be bad for the extensive pundit economy and bring down the US with it.

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“Any sudden tax hike would hurt our economy, so this fall - before the election - the House of Representatives will vote to stop the largest tax increase in American history.”

If they really believed this they would let it happen to give a boost to Mitt.

*ACTUAL SIGNIFICANT NEWS*

Fed judge enjoins enforcement of NDAA's indefinite detention provisions

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/16/federal_court_enjoins_ndaa/singleton/

nice

that's pretty righteous

But meanwhile a Congressional hawkish Dem says

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/carl-levin-wants-preserve-indefinite-detention-option-us-citizens

major-league asshole

Fed judge enjoins enforcement of NDAA's indefinite detention provisions

Roberts court will totally strike this down, unfortunately

Left unexplained is why mandatory military detention is needed at all. Umar Abdulmutallab, who inspired the mandatory military custody provision after he set himself on fire trying to blow up a plane, would not have been granted bail in a federal court. If the evidence is that strong that someone is a terrorist, there's no need to put them in military custody. Levin fails to offer even a single argument for why military custody would be preferable to civilian custody. Instead, his argument is a moral one: We're at war with these people, so we'll treat them like warriors.

OTM, the lack of logic here is so enraging. courts handle dangerous, murderous people ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it's what they're designed to do.

it's official, white people in the US no longer the majority

worth celebrating

we had a good run

self-hate is awesome, guys!

nonwhites, now it's up to you to continue fucking things up

just copy our mindset and make it your own

i'm not sure if i'm white or not. i'll throw a party but not attend.

White man Bill Clinton and other Dems plan to celebrate by cutting entitlements for less-rich people of all colors:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/runaway-train-on-entitlement-cuts.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/democrats-talk-about-cutting-entitlements-republicans-dont-talk-about-raising-taxes/2012/05/16/gIQAfU28TU_blog.html

before clinton does anything else he needs to unbutton his goddamn coat when he sits down

gabbneb is dead, long live gabbnebism.

but at least he wants to let gays get married ... thereby securing a fat contribution check from David Geffen.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/republicans-ndaa-detention-terrorist

Paging Greenwald

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/world/world-leaders-at-us-meeting-urge-growth-not-austerity.html

In a tense meeting here at this storied presidential retreat, it seemed at times as if it was Ms. Merkel — who herself faces stiff opposition at home to more bailouts of its neighbors by German taxpayers — against the world. Things did not seem to get off to a good start either on Friday night, as Mr. Obama greeted his guests for dinner in a rustic wood cabin.

“How’ve you been?” Mr. Obama asked Ms. Merkel.

She shrugged and pursed her lips.

“Well, you have a few things on your mind,” Mr. Obama said consolingly.

"We all do", Ms. Merkel replied.

When Mr. Obama inquired about the wellbeing of her husband, Joachim Sauer, Ms. Merkel would only shake her head in silence.

Mr. Obama then made a conversation mistake by accidentally asking "And how have you been?" again in desperation.

But Ms. Merkel did not respond, choosing instead to look at a spot about 20 feet above and to the left of Mr. Obama's head.

I've done that so many times, man

mumblecore diplomacy