Howard Vs. Thome

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I can't believe how few doubles he's hit.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 September 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Frank Thomas currently has EIGHT.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 September 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Look at Howard's HR chart at home and compare Thomas' HR chart at home and tell me again how "few" cheap homeruns he has at home. That's if those charts me fuck all as far as accuracy goes. Either way you don't pick and choose the park factors (see: Larry Walker 1997 for example in BBBT#s.) Just because it may not look like Howard is benefitting doesn't mean he isn't.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 9 September 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Every time I seem to see Howard hit a home run in highlights it goes a half mile. I'm sure you hit 56 a couple are gimmes with the wind or the park, but the dude has also hit some absolute moon shots.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Alex can you please parse your entire 5:39pm PST post, way too many triple negatives to get through.

Also, what do Frank Thomas or Larry Walker have to do with anything?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you for the informative posts Alex!

― FUCK BABY SURI I HOPE IT CHOKES TO DEATH ON HUBBARD WAFERS (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Adrian, please stay on topic.

With Hafner out and Ortiz/Manny vanishing into the Bermuda Triangle:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2006&seasonType=2&sort=OPS&type=reg&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

1) Assuming those charts accurately reflect the distance of Howard's home runs, a lot more than a few seem pretty close to just getting over the wall to me.

2) One of the reasons why you adjust for park factors REGARDLESS of whether or not a player's home/away splits "seem" different is that value of a run (or a home run) is DIFFERENT based on where you are playing. If everyone is scoring a lot of runs in Philly then you need to score a lot more runs to win a game there then you do in San Diego where runs are relatively hard to come by.

3) What is that link supposed to reflect, Steve?

4) Haha Adrian why am I banned from I Love Football?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

lol I have been a grumpy gus lately :( but I am so delighted at this moment by Steve Smith being out for today's game that I have unbanned you.

― FUCK BABY SURI I HOPE IT CHOKES TO DEATH ON HUBBARD WAFERS (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha I couldn't even remember the last time I posted to ILNFL so I was totally lost as to what I had done to deserve to banning.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the clarification. It would be interesting to get a HR by distance table. I wonder if anyone does that.

My link was supposed to point to a sorted table of OPS. Howard has now surpassed Ortiz, Manny and Pujols and trails Hafner by 0.003. Maybe yahoo 's table is better:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/bycategory?cat=Batting&conference=MLB&year=season_2006&qualified=1&sort=25

And just a little FYI, Bonds (who does not qualify since he has 437 plate appearances, 2 less than yahoo's qualification of 439 PA's) would fall in #11th place in OPS.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Howard has passed Pujols in VORP, but he's behind in EqA and WARP.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I totally blame this board btw for me EVEN knowing what the hell any of those are.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

hahaha otm

― FUCK BABY SURI I HOPE IT CHOKES TO DEATH ON HUBBARD WAFERS (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 10 September 2006 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

What about Runs Created? Win Shares? WE MUST FIND OUT!

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeter Factor? Does Howard pump his fist when he gets a hit in the late innings? Quiet leadership is for sissies.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

[i]2) One of the reasons why you adjust for park factors REGARDLESS of whether or not a player's home/away splits "seem" different is that value of a run (or a home run) is DIFFERENT based on where you are playing.[/i]

Fair enough, that's a good point that I hadn't appreciated before.

― ojitarian (ojitarian), Sunday, 10 September 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

He's on pace for 5 more = 62.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

re-reading through most of this thread, i was just going to calculate that number. thanks for saving me the trouble.

― mr. brojangles (sanskrit), Monday, 18 September 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ten years pass...

welp

― nomar, Thursday, 5 January 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

Ryan Howard is putting together perhaps the best offensive season in the past 5 years.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, September 2, 2006 11:33 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 January 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

how quickly shasta forgot barry bonds

― mookieproof, Friday, 6 January 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link

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