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Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 January 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Do any of you have experience cooking on/in soapstone? I am becoming curious about it.

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link


I LOVE MY SOAPSTONE COOKWARE!!

Once you cure it (easy to do) it is totally non-stick and unlike cast iron you don't have to reseason to keep it that way. It retains heat twice as long as cast iron and conducts heat as well as copper - I like my dutch oven better then my Le Creseut.

My new favorite piece is a griddle which stays hot for so long that you can even cook table top - Really Cool!! It can also be chilled and used to keep apetizers cool for hours.

Naturestone (www.brazilonmymind.com) has the largest selection - A great web site for more information on soapstone cookware is www.fantes.com

Catherine Carnahan, Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks! Why isn't it as popular as cast iron, I wonder.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd never heard of it, until now.

But my Le Creuset are to be delivered today!

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 30 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

2 questions about cast iron cookware:

1) how do the denizens of I Love Cooking cure their cast iron cookware?
2) If you, uh, ha ha, didn't bother to cure it first before using is it...too late? We've only got like one or two items but Tom used them without curing first so I've just followed suit because I figured, oh well, what the hell, and have only just realized this is possibly an asinine thing to think.

Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Not too late. I rescued two pans last year from a thrift store. Just scrub really well with soap and hot water with a Choreboy copper or steel. Dry thoroughly. Thinly coat with Crisco or lard (some say vegetable oil). Thinly means thinly; you want the barest coating of grease, all over the pan. Turn upside down and bake in a 350 deg. oven for an hour or so. Turn the oven off and let the pan cool in it, undisturbed.

Seasoning a pan is actually creating a polymerized coating of oil on it, which adheres between the metal molecules. It will eventually become more non-stick, but if you cook anything acidic or too liquid in it, you'll need to reseason. We cook every day with the cast iron skillet and I reseason it once a month or so, when I've already got the oven heated up for something else.

Also, some of the Lodge brand pieces come preseasoned. They're a dark, oily-looking finish as opposed to the duller medium gray of the raw iron.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link

so the calphalon ion-infused anodized series is very good. It cooks beautifully, really evenly, doing exactly what they advertise as the strong point: perfect sear and release leaving just the right amount of little bits for deglazing. So it's definitely NOT nonstick.

but it will take a beating. they say you can use metal utensils, but i dont want to mar the appearance, so i wont (even if it wont harm its functionality). but you can scrub it with plastic scouring pads, so that's cool. barkeepers friend works wonders on it, restoring the finish to pretty much brand new appearance.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to cure my cast iron pan? I guess it's good that I still haven't used it then...

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't have to, but it keeps it from rusting and makes it much easier to clean up.

AaronK - would it be non-stick enough to easily cook eggs in? The teflon in my egg pan is starting to chip and I'm considering replacements.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

mmm, i havent had terribly good luck with eggs yet - i think it'd be ok if you used a lot of oil or butter. the nonstick would probably be a better bet if eggs are a big item.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a pan that's only used for eggs, so I'll look more at the truly non-stick. It's good to know you're liking it so well for other things!

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi to All, I've been having trouble with sticking with a nice big stainless steel Lagnostina skillet, it has a heavy base filled with alumiinium/alloy. The 'hot pan - cold oil' approach helps, but it's still a problem. I found a web-site that recommended seasoning the S/S pan the same way you'd do cast iron. As the handles are removeable on the skillet I'm tempted to do this, but still kind of leery. It would be nice to be able to use this pan with more confidence.

Bob

Heat the oven to 250o - 300o
Coat the pan with lard or bacon grease. Don't use a liquid vegetable oil because it will leave a sticky surface and the pan will not be properly seasoned.
Put the pan in the oven. In 15 minutes, remove the pan & pour out any excess grease. Place the pan back in the oven and bake for 2 hours.
Repeating this process several times is recommended as it will help create a stronger "seasoning" bond.

Also, when you put the pan into service, it is recommended to use it initially for foods high in fat, such as bacon or foods cooked with fat, because the grease from these foods will help strengthen the seasoning.


Bob Thompson, Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I have a Lodge brand that was "pre-seasoned", so I guess I don't have to worry about it after all. I was wondering why it didn't come with seasoning instructions.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You might want to season it every so often - even the preseasoning wears off eventually as you cook. The griddle I bought was preseasoned - I don't do any liquid or acidic cooking on it, so I only season it once every 3 months or so.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I nearly bought an Emile Henri dutch Oven today. It looked like matt black cast iron, but was told it was ceramic, and could break if dropped. I was very disappointed,as I love cast iron cookware. My 3 skillet set has been in use for 30 years and is better than new,nothing ever sticks and definitely no rust ever. My skillets have wooden screw-on handles, so they often go in the oven for bakes etc.minus the handle. To clean, I wipe out with salt on a paper napkin first then oil and replace in cooling oven or cooktop.No water, not ever.

Dorothy Shirley Pitt, Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you find that scouring with salt really suffices so your delicate breakfast pancakes don't pick up any scent of last night's garlicky pan-roast? I've had the occasional unpleasant surprise.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I picked up a 14" cast iron skillet a few weeks ago - then we started watching Alton Brown. He did a steak show where he cleaned the skillet with salt afterwards, so RJM thought he'd try that out. It wasn't terribly successful esp. w/r/t flavor, so we are back to the hot water+plastic scrubber method which suits us fine. I've actually got both my skillets seasoned well enough now to fry eggs in without sticking, so have pitched all the teflon pans out.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I want to buy a really excellent, long-lasting pan as a birthday gift. Something medium-sized and really versatile that will deal with everything from risotto to frying steaks. Upthread someone recommends the calphalon ion-infused anodized series, which apparently is non-stick'ish' but leaves a few bits to deglaze. Pretty damn expensive, though. Any other recommendations at similar or lower prices?

ljubljana, Monday, 22 November 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

idk about that but i wanna talk about sticky pans. i love my le creuset dutch oven so so much, but it's like the stickiest surface to cook on but at the same time you can get it 100% clean very easily. on the other hand i got myself a kitchen aid stainless frying pan that's now my favorite cooking surface for non-stick qualities (when properly pre-heated) but it's got a film of carmelized gunk on it since i used it to make pancakes. what is this about?

john water (harbl), Monday, 22 November 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's baked on oil.
I've had pretty good luck getting that off by making a paste of baking soda, letting it set and scrubbing it off.

the higgs, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

oh scratch my question, I found that calphalon ion-infused anodized stuff a lot cheaper somewhere else so I think I'm going with that.

ljubljana, Friday, 26 November 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

i was going to buy a new nonstick pan today. the only thing i use nonstick for is eggs. but when i got to macy's i liked a stainless omelette pan so much better than any of the nonstick ones and i got the stainless one instead. then when i came home and thought about it i was like why did i get a stainless to cook eggs. is this the worst idea? am i never going to have scrambled eggs again? it says it's for omelettes so it should work, right? i really want to throw out my old nonstick pans.

tunnel joe (harbl), Sunday, 1 May 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd return it.

the wages of sin is about tree fiddy (WmC), Sunday, 1 May 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't decide. i used a coupon today that expires tomorrow but i will only lose a few dollars if i wait anyway. my le creuset skillet is getting better seasoned so i might be able to use that to scramble. sucks you can't try out a frying pan and return it!

tunnel joe (harbl), Monday, 2 May 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Sur la Table has some new fangled pan that is supposed to be non-stick sans Teflon. It has an odd name that is escaping me at the moment--eco-something, maybe? I will try and track it down with the google.

quincie, Monday, 2 May 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

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quincie, Monday, 2 May 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i made the exchange today. but i got the one thing i didn't want which is a pair of nonsticks (one 8" one 10"). i was trying to have fewer frying pans! i got calphalon.

tunnel joe (harbl), Monday, 2 May 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Why do you keep doing what you didn't mean to do? I thought lawyers were analytical and methodical. #trolling

the wages of sin is about tree fiddy (WmC), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i was tired of shopping yesterday (i was in macys for 20 minutes!!!) and then today i was just tired. but i just used the 8" one and i really liked it. so i'm ok.

tunnel joe (harbl), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link


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