Public Image Limited : When did you get off the bus?

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I don't think I ever got off the bus with PiL, but Lydon's collab with Afrika Bambaataa would make me get off any bus or cliff

wtf @ this, "World Destruction" is a killer single

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 May 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

One Drop ep is very good.

van smack, Monday, 21 May 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

Aero otfm. "World Destruction" is all-time, and I bet it'd get a helluva reception in any club

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and the track PiL did on the Dennis Miller show is fantastic:
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=vyOJ91KYh7E

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Never got off this bus

Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

By the way, they were awesome live in 2010 with some interesting reinventions of old songs. There's been a bunch of live shows from that tour released, anyone have a recommendation on which one is the best?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

there is a live show or two on spotify, which I guess were released? they are pretty good, and I liked the new single, will check them out again if they tour since I missed that 2010 show. but yeah, happy through that what is not is some serious dregs that they wisely have avoided in recent setlists.

album is a fucking classic though, I love it (along with Swans Burning World, the other 'laswell jazzbo sellout' production from the same era)

akm, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

"World Destruction" is the sound of two all-time musicians reaching their nadir at the exact same moment.

poxen, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

there remained an awful lot of nadir to go, man

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

btw I won't hear a thing said against "Disappointed."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

finding it hard to believe that anyone hates 'world destruction'

mark e, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

we live in a world that has made Justin Bieber an international superstar, of course there are people who hate "World Destruction"

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

oh not you too, Dan

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Huh! I'm genuinely surprised it has its fans!

poxen, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

GTFO, World Destruction slays.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

this recent anti-WD mood on ILX takes me completely by surprise

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Want to boldly say something like 'Album is the only thing involving Laswell I ever need to hear again' but ehh I guess there's Ask The Ages.

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

what, She's The Boss didn't move you?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

D^%E&Y*&^(&*#$^*(

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

World Destruction is classic - took me ages to figure out what that song was when I kept hearing it on KROQ as a teen

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh not you too, Dan

wtf, no not me too, I'm just saying it's kind of crazy to assume everyone loves a song (unless that song is "Wanna Be Starting Something")

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

I could be wrong but I think Alfred was referring to your Bieber diss.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

That's not even a diss (even though it's true I intensely dislike Bieber), it's more an acknowledgement of the existence of Venn diagrams

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

so.....should I check out their show on Friday?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

it could be good, it could be bad

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

it could be wrong, it could be right

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxe3u9vhF1qa6myvo1_250.jpg

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

they put a hot wire to his head!

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

now in the endless summer, I could be happy or in distress, depending on the company

Euler, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

I never imagined a time when Brian Wilson would look better than John Lydon.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

i saw them in 2010 and the first issue/metal box stuff was FANTASTIC - even if none of them actually played on it. The "psycho's path"/"rise"/"disappointed" seemed to please those old enough to remember them from college radio, but I just waited it out. Latest song they played was that Leftfield "Open Up" number though - would totally see them again on a Plays Metal Box tour but not sure about the new material.

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

i should exclude "psycho's path" from that college rock comment

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

Wobble & Levene have been doing Plays Metal Box shows this year, to Lydon's withering contempt

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

Things that don't earn Lydon's withering contempt:

- John Lydon
- Butter advertisements
- The Slits

Half Jaglom Half Winkler (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

- Poly Styrene

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link

To give him his due, it really is good butter.

Mates of 808 State (S-), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder how that Wobble/Levene ep released earlier this year is?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

The Slits

I've never heard someone go off on someone else as savagely as Lydon did when talking to me about Ari Up (this was in the early 90s, long prior to her passing.) He was not kind. I've since heard he spent a lot of time teaching Ari's kids to read, since she didn't believe they needed to know this herself. I've never heard him much praise the Slits, to be honest . . . though he was quite lavish in his praise for the Raincoats.

I wonder how that Wobble/Levene ep released earlier this year is?

Pretty good so long as you're not expecting Metal Box II. But don't bother, as it appears that all four tracks appear in the new album, plus six more. I haven't heard that, so I can't confirm that the versions are identical, but buyer beware.

crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

"World Destruction" is the sound of two all-time musicians reaching their nadir at the exact same moment.

+1

Not helped by the fact that Laswell has never understood that just because two things have never gone together before that doesn't mean they necessarily should.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

I don't know why I'm enjoying this as much as I am... Think I was prepared for the worst?

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/europunk-public-image-limited

StanM, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

It's good to have low expectations, you can only go up.

I listened to "Happy" and "9" recently and dug almost all of them aside from a few tracks. Still looking for a good recent live set.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

The one I just linked to is from last month btw - Feb 25th.

StanM, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

listened to 'seattle' only today. have never ventured into anything later than that song, but i do love it

cgi bubka (NickB), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

oh wait. 2013. sorry. Xp

StanM, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

They're touring the US again. Should I get back on the bus? Haven't listened to 'em in ages.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 August 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.johnlydon.com/images2/pil-cycle-jersey.jpg
.. and onto the Bike?

"The wheels on the bike go ROUND AND AROUND, AROUNDAROUND ROUND ROUND..."

Mark G, Friday, 5 August 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Free bus with every copy..

Release Date 28 October 2016
Product code
5701491
Format
Quadruple CD Album
Label
UMC / Virgin EMI
On 28th October, PiL will reissue the seminal albums ‘Metal Box’ and ‘Album’. ‘Metal Box’ was the band’s second album, originally released on 23rd November 1979 and ‘Album’ was their 5th studio album and was originally released on 3rd February 1986, marking 2016 as its 30th anniversary.

The album’s will both be issued as 4 CD and 4 vinyl LP super-deluxe box sets, as well as digitally. The editions will include rare and previously unreleased material along with a live disc. The CD version’s feature additional tracks to the vinyl editions due to running time restrictions, however, the vinyl edition will include a download card for all tracks on the CD version’s. ‘Metal Box’ will be issued in a square metal tin (CD & LP) (the 1979 original was issued in a round metal film canister) with an embossed PiL logo. Both super-deluxe editions will include a 72 page booklet together with an exclusive poster, art-prints (LP version) and postcards (CD version).

With all lyrics written by John Lydon ‘Metal Box’ was recorded with original PiL members Keith Levene and Jah Wobble. Original drummer Jim Walker had left, to be replaced by a succession of drummers. ‘Metal Box’ came out less than a year after PiL’s debut ‘Public Image: First Issue’ yet it was nothing like its predecessor. Things had changed, and so had PiL. 

While outside pressures mounted PiL channeled their energies (negative and positive) into a record that would set them apart back in 1979, and indeed today in 2016. Whether it be John’s powerful and passionate vocals; Keith’s wailing guitar and melodic synths; Wobble’s sub-disco reggae basslines; or the crashing rhythm that holds it all together, ‘Metal Box’ has many strengths. The album was originally released as 3 x 45rpm 12” singles, housed in a metal ‘film’ canister. As made by ‘The Metal Box Company’ in London’s East End; hence the name. The deluxe edition includes rare and unreleased mixes from the recording sessions, along with B-sides and BBC sessions, plus a live recording from a now legendary unplanned show at Factory Records Russell Club in Manchester arranged on the day of a Granada TV appearance.

Tracklist:
Disc 1:
Remastered album
1. Albatross
2. Memories
3. Swan Lake (Death Disco)
4. Poptones
5. Careering
6. No Birds Do Sing
7. Graveyard
8. The Suit
9. Bad Baby
10. Socialist
11. Chant
12. Radio 4

Disc 2:
B-sides, mixes & radio sessions
1. Death Disco (7” edit)
2. Death Disco 12”
3. Half Mix / Megga Mix (b-side)
4. Death Disco - BBC TV, Top of the Pops July 12.7.72
5. Memories 12”
6. Another (b-side)
7. Poptones - BBCRadio 1, John Peel Sessions 1979
8. Careering - BBC Radio 1, John Peel Sessions 1979
9. Chant - BBC Radio 1, John Peel Sessions 1979
10. Poptones - BBC TV, Old Grey Whistle Test 5/2/80 (audio)
11. Careering - BBC TV, Old Grey Whistle Test 5/2/80 (audio)
12. Pied Piper (rare compilation-only track)

Disc 3:
Unreleased Mixes
1. Poptones (version 3) (unreleased)
2. Swan Lake (monitor mix)
3. Albatross (monitor mix) (alternative mix)
4. Swan Lake (“master”) (alternative mix) (unreleased)
5. Unknown INST Jam 1 (“Chant”) (unreleased)
6. Unknown Jam 2 (“Megachant”) (unreleased)
7. Music from an Oven (aka Memories) (unreleased)
8. Radio 4 (“symphony suite”) (unreleased)
9. Home is Where The Heart is (original mix) (unreleased)
10. Unknown INST 2 (unreleased)

Disc 4:
Live at Manchester, Russell’s Club (The Factory) 18/6/79 (unreleased)
1. Chant
2. Swan Lake (aka Death Disco)
3. Memories
4. Public Image
5. Annalisa
6. No Birds Do Sing

Mark G, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link


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