Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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kiarostami is pretty sui generis, tsai is much more emblematic of the sort of asian "slow cinema" that (used to?) burn a lot of critics up.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

tsai seems like a bit of a trend-chaser to me, actually, albeit an accomplished one. long takes? check. new extremity? check. etc.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Someone asked me recently who the best US directors of the last 25-30 years were, and I rather quickly answered Spielberg and Haynes. I suspect they are pigeonholed as too "popcorn" (still) and "academic," respectively, to pop up in many top 10s.

(likely more in this new media subset Eric refers to)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh i think haynes will turn up

lots of critics still have bias against spielberg, i doubt that will change much this time out and even if it did, there isn't really a consensus favorite. e.t.? raiders? jaws? jurassic park? schindler's fucking list?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd say the critical cult around him has mostly centered on ET, Empire of the Sun, AI, and Munich. Maybe Close Encounters too, among the undying Paulettes.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love watching J.Ro walk around and occasionally throw shade at the camera.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Ignaty Vishnevetsky demonstrates his random method and how he ended up with three films from 1981: http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-sight-sound-film-poll-ignatiy-vishnevetsky-on-how-to-make-a-random-top-ten-list?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

A nice defense of L'avventura (which I, for one, would love to see return to the top 10):

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/great-wide-open-l-avventura

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

(I mean, given it can't really be L'eclisse.)

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd absolutely put it in my top 10

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I doubt I would put any Antonioni in my top 100, even though I like four or five of his films very much. I felt guilty about this til I read how much Orson Welles disliked his portentousness.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's this great welles interview where he admits he refuses to see any movie longer than 100 minutes.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

that musta been pretty late, he claimed to love The Last Picture Show (118 m)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, remember who was intellecutally fellating him in the early seventies

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes but.... he was a bit of a fibber, I've heard

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just because I love L'eclisse more than L'avventura now doesn't mean I'd exclude the latter from my top hundred.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

ranked all-time lists are idiotic; there, I said it

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lock thread.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just think film critics should aspire to being more than music critics who don't hear so well.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

didn't know the S&S critics from '62 were music critics in cineaste clothing

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like ranked all-time lists.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think you should let people play the games they want to play, Morbs.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

knock yerself out

'62 critics had half as many films to deal with.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like ranked all-time lists.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:36 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which are your ten favourite

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's no way to stop it,
No, there's no way to stop it,
If the earth wants to roll around the sun.
You're a fool if you worry.
You're a fool if you worry,
Over anything but little number one.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2012/07/if-i-had-a-sight-sound-film-ballot/

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

are there any more Special Projects to come this summer, besides the one I'm 3 weeks late on? Possibly a "Call Me Maybe" lipsync?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

I already said by email I would participate in 2022.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pssssssh, My goal by 2022 is to have a real ballot.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

wha, now that you've practically quit?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've quit caring about the actual criticism. I haven't quit writing it.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

< / sarcasm > < / obv >

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

which are your ten favourite

― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, July 30, 2012 7:58 PM (16 minutes ago)

i posted mine up-thread, probably wouldn't change it much now.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

After Death (Bauer, 15)
The Scarlet Empress (Von Sternberg, 34)
L'eclisse (Antonioni, 61)
La Jetee (Marker, 62)
Simon of the Desert (Bunuel, 65)
Weekend (Godard, 67)
Pink Narcissus (Bidgood, 71)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Hooper, 74)
Satantango (Tarr, 94)
Showgirls (Verhoeven, 95)
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:21 AM (2 months ago)

Six of these ended up on my "if I had a ballot" ballot for House, without having even double-checked here first.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Expect the silent era to fade out of all such polls w/in 20 years.

(Even faster than cinema will.)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

LOL, faster than cinema will fade out of movie polls? Pretty Armond, even for you.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, out of life

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not as long as there are polls to keep approximately 250 movies from the entirety of movie history alive.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

what is ur favourite movie Shawshank or Avatar

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha i meant your fav lists
xp @ JD

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

in the last joan didion book a quotation was opened by a wrong-facing pair of inverted commas. a joan didion book.

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait wrong thread

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

but surely part of a similar decline in critical thought

, Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time

Second Gambaccini Top 100 albums book...sorry; back to Sight & Sound.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i only have the first of those books! could you post marcus's list, clemenza?

if i recall GM's list from the first book -- from 1977, i think -- was pretty unsurprising, with 'let it bleed' at the top and 'more chuck berry' somewhere in there. ('more chuck berry,' a long-forgotten collection, wound up in a surprising number of lists.)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just have the first one too, but I tracked his list down here: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/steveparker/world_critics_lists.htm. Pertinent to this thread, wish I could find the list of 10 favorite American films for the years 1968-77 he contributed to a James Monaco book...I know Across 110th Street was on there, and I think Thieves Like Us.

clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks for that!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

see, NOW lock thread

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink


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