kiarostami is pretty sui generis, tsai is much more emblematic of the sort of asian "slow cinema" that (used to?) burn a lot of critics up.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
tsai seems like a bit of a trend-chaser to me, actually, albeit an accomplished one. long takes? check. new extremity? check. etc.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Someone asked me recently who the best US directors of the last 25-30 years were, and I rather quickly answered Spielberg and Haynes. I suspect they are pigeonholed as too "popcorn" (still) and "academic," respectively, to pop up in many top 10s.
(likely more in this new media subset Eric refers to)
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh i think haynes will turn up
lots of critics still have bias against spielberg, i doubt that will change much this time out and even if it did, there isn't really a consensus favorite. e.t.? raiders? jaws? jurassic park? schindler's fucking list?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd say the critical cult around him has mostly centered on ET, Empire of the Sun, AI, and Munich. Maybe Close Encounters too, among the undying Paulettes.
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-essay-sight-and-sound-film-poll-jonathan-rosenbaum-on-satantango
― Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love watching J.Ro walk around and occasionally throw shade at the camera.
http://lumiere.net.nz/index.php/on-the-difficulty-of-film-canons/
― old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ignaty Vishnevetsky demonstrates his random method and how he ended up with three films from 1981: http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/video-sight-sound-film-poll-ignatiy-vishnevetsky-on-how-to-make-a-random-top-ten-list?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 28 June 2012 19:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
A nice defense of L'avventura (which I, for one, would love to see return to the top 10):
http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/great-wide-open-l-avventura
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 18:20 (10 months ago) Permalink
(I mean, given it can't really be L'eclisse.)
i'd absolutely put it in my top 10
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
I doubt I would put any Antonioni in my top 100, even though I like four or five of his films very much. I felt guilty about this til I read how much Orson Welles disliked his portentousness.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:27 (10 months ago) Permalink
there's this great welles interview where he admits he refuses to see any movie longer than 100 minutes.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:32 (10 months ago) Permalink
that musta been pretty late, he claimed to love The Last Picture Show (118 m)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
well, remember who was intellecutally fellating him in the early seventies
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:43 (10 months ago) Permalink
yes but.... he was a bit of a fibber, I've heard
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:43 (10 months ago) Permalink
Just because I love L'eclisse more than L'avventura now doesn't mean I'd exclude the latter from my top hundred.
ranked all-time lists are idiotic; there, I said it
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:48 (10 months ago) Permalink
Lock thread.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:28 (10 months ago) Permalink
I just think film critics should aspire to being more than music critics who don't hear so well.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:30 (10 months ago) Permalink
didn't know the S&S critics from '62 were music critics in cineaste clothing
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:35 (10 months ago) Permalink
i like ranked all-time lists.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (10 months ago) Permalink
I think you should let people play the games they want to play, Morbs.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:36 (10 months ago) Permalink
knock yerself out
'62 critics had half as many films to deal with.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:49 (10 months ago) Permalink
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:36 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which are your ten favourite
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
There's no way to stop it,No, there's no way to stop it,If the earth wants to roll around the sun.You're a fool if you worry.You're a fool if you worry,Over anything but little number one.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/2012/07/if-i-had-a-sight-sound-film-ballot/
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 19:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
are there any more Special Projects to come this summer, besides the one I'm 3 weeks late on? Possibly a "Call Me Maybe" lipsync?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:03 (10 months ago) Permalink
I already said by email I would participate in 2022.
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
Pssssssh, My goal by 2022 is to have a real ballot.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
wha, now that you've practically quit?
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:08 (10 months ago) Permalink
I've quit caring about the actual criticism. I haven't quit writing it.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
< / sarcasm > < / obv >
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:14 (10 months ago) Permalink
which are your ten favourite― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, July 30, 2012 7:58 PM (16 minutes ago)
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, July 30, 2012 7:58 PM (16 minutes ago)
i posted mine up-thread, probably wouldn't change it much now.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:15 (10 months ago) Permalink
After Death (Bauer, 15)The Scarlet Empress (Von Sternberg, 34)L'eclisse (Antonioni, 61)La Jetee (Marker, 62)Simon of the Desert (Bunuel, 65)Weekend (Godard, 67)Pink Narcissus (Bidgood, 71)The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Hooper, 74)Satantango (Tarr, 94)Showgirls (Verhoeven, 95)― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:21 AM (2 months ago)
Six of these ended up on my "if I had a ballot" ballot for House, without having even double-checked here first.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
Expect the silent era to fade out of all such polls w/in 20 years.
(Even faster than cinema will.)
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:25 (10 months ago) Permalink
LOL, faster than cinema will fade out of movie polls? Pretty Armond, even for you.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:29 (10 months ago) Permalink
no, out of life
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:31 (10 months ago) Permalink
Not as long as there are polls to keep approximately 250 movies from the entirety of movie history alive.
― Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 20:35 (10 months ago) Permalink
what is ur favourite movie Shawshank or Avatar
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
ha i meant your fav listsxp @ JD
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:45 (10 months ago) Permalink
haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:52 (10 months ago) Permalink
in the last joan didion book a quotation was opened by a wrong-facing pair of inverted commas. a joan didion book.
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
wait wrong thread
but surely part of a similar decline in critical thought
― , Blogger (schlump), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
haha! i like whichever greil marcus list it was where he listed 'germfree adolescents' as the greatest album of all time
Second Gambaccini Top 100 albums book...sorry; back to Sight & Sound.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:31 (10 months ago) Permalink
i only have the first of those books! could you post marcus's list, clemenza?
if i recall GM's list from the first book -- from 1977, i think -- was pretty unsurprising, with 'let it bleed' at the top and 'more chuck berry' somewhere in there. ('more chuck berry,' a long-forgotten collection, wound up in a surprising number of lists.)
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:41 (10 months ago) Permalink
I just have the first one too, but I tracked his list down here: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/steveparker/world_critics_lists.htm. Pertinent to this thread, wish I could find the list of 10 favorite American films for the years 1968-77 he contributed to a James Monaco book...I know Across 110th Street was on there, and I think Thieves Like Us.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:49 (10 months ago) Permalink
thanks for that!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:52 (10 months ago) Permalink
see, NOW lock thread
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:46 (10 months ago) Permalink