oh man I had forgotten that this was the Spawn meets Drizzt Do'Urden MMORPG
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
what do the farrelly brothers do with their money?
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Big Huge did Rise of Nations, right? the Civ/Age of Empires mash-up series?
What pisses me off is that the motherfuck makes fucking loud-ass Tea Party noises for years, then runs for public coffers for dosh to pay back himself first, iirc.
Setting up a system for subsidized loans to entice high-tech industry and gamedevs is a good idea(Bethesda is in MD, if you remember); dumping insane amounts of funds into a new studio run headed by a first-timer trying to make a blockbuster MMO on their first try is not.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
likewise, sinking all of the state's economic development funding into a single business!
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
exactly! awesome example of appeal to authority as a cognitive fallacy, too!
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
i heard through the grapevine that schilling had gotten money out of a bunch of pro athletes as "investors" lol
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 25, 2012 2:25 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
iirc schilling actually asked for MORE loans to cover costs after 38 couldn't make payroll, over and above the loans already received. the request was turned down, which led to the mass firings this week. afaik, the only remaining thing 38 can do to raise money is to sell off their tax credits to other businesses.
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, May 25, 2012 1:48 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep they did Rise...studio was founded by Brian Reynolds, one of the ex lead producer types at Firaxis, like a said a good, solid PC oriented studio, Schilling certainly didn't pick a bad company to work with...
I believe the Reckoning project was actually started with another publisher, dropped and picked up by 38 Studios
to your second point, Big Huge was in Maryland and Schilling actually sort of played Maryland and Rhode Island against each other to see who would give me the most "job creation" kickbacks...Rhode Island got sucked into his celebrity and also the very misguided idea that making money on these dang games those kids love so much is really easy - why my kids play video games all the time!
Schilling is basically just a well-heeled fanboy with the hubris to think he knows one fucking thing about running a successful game company, no different than any million dudes except he's famous.
if i've learned nothing else, it's that the business is incredibly complex and just crushingly difficult -- even if you are amazing at what you do. and that enjoying playing games has very very little to do with whether or not you'd be good at making them.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
RI public radio roundtable on the subject, including Gov Chafee
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wrni/news.newsmain/article/0/13/1932647/Top.Stories/Political.Roundtable.the.future.for.RI.and.38.Studios
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
right, Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
Will take this moment to state that I really want Firaxis or Reynolds to do an updated Alpha Centauri, my fave of all Civ games.
I enjoyed it so much I even read _The Jesus Incident_, its source material.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Schilling actually sort of played Maryland and Rhode Island against each other
this is exactly what happened, it essentially became a bidding war
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
you win this round, maryland. *shakes fist*
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
massachusetts comes out of this looking great too because our politicians our dumb but thankfully weren't dumb enough to call when rhode island raised
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
I really can't see Deval Patrick going for this at all
I mean, there's no casino component
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
hah yeah pretty much
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
curt schilling is the worst person.
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, May 25, 2012 11:37 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
$75 million loan is just a staggering amount, like how many fn people did they think this place was gonna employ
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
400-450 iirc
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
public documents from the RI EDC are online, who knows what's buried in the fine print
http://www.riedc.com/38studios-public-documents
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
i realize that fantasy genre shit with foofy names makes tons of money all the time, but it still cracks me up that this much coin was riding on something called Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
― some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
as far as fantasy names go, that's super tame and boring tbh
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
One former employee told the video game blog Kotaku that 38 Studios workers learned of the payroll miss only when checks failed to hit their accounts. According to the employee, workers learned by word of mouth that their health insurance was to expire abruptly, Thursday night at midnight. "We found this out when an employee's pregnant wife was told by her doctor, this was on Tuesday 22nd May this week," the employee wrote.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
ra salvatore made $5 million off this, lol
― Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
that to me is the worst shit, like it's one thing to hear "oh you're not getting paid in 2 weeks" and another to hear "oh that bill you thought you were gonna pay today? yeah that's not happening"
― some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
ironic that my video-game-loving son's public school may end up getting shuttered and consolidated because of a failed video game
schilling's the dope who drove this into a wall but carcieri's the moron who handed him the keys to his car, unfortunately I live in that car and, well, I don't really know where I was going with that metaphor
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
into a wall
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
Catherine Welch @CWELCHRI@RINPR Ex-38 Studio employee tells RIPR that Gov Chafee stonewalled the company2:48 PM - 25 May 12 via web
i completely understand 38 employees being outraged at the sudden loss of their jobs but i honestly don't think chaffee is the appropriate focus for yr anger, dudes
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
he would not give us $78m more dollars
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
trying to make an MMO from the start seems like the worst business plan ever for a game company
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i just don't know what oversight could the state have provided re: how the funding was dispersed, short of interfering with the actual development of the game?
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
are there any truly successful MMOs that aren't built on the back of existing IP and reputation
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
just imagine the RI general assembly getting involved in the development of an mmorpg
what on earth would that game be like
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
character class: potatohead
probably more interesting than a generic fantasy MMO
― ciderpress, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
i hope this stops Delaware from staking its future on non-erotic Twilight fan fiction
― some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, May 25, 2012 4:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that is the game dont u see
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm wondering who made that call.
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
About starting with an MMO right out of the gate. Don't these people play Game Dev Story?
― ciderpress, Friday, May 25, 2012 4:27 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Friday, May 25, 2012 4:29 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes its completely insane. how on earth did nobody in charge go WHOA WHOA WHAT THE FUCK before this money was given to schilling
― Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
new quest!objective: bring me some stuffies & clamcakes from flo's
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
curt schilling with an entry into the nominative determinism hall of fame
― Éden Éden Éden / H.A.Z.A.R.D (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
someone probably said that already though
Scott MacKay @ScotMackRIGotta love Rhode Island, only state that can take $75 million and turn it into a Schilling11:19 AM - 25 May 12 via web
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
this is insane! i feel a little better about MN political culture now, at least we're gonna have a stadium out of the deal
― goole, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
― Hungry4Ass, Friday, May 25, 2012 4:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well you see ppl involved in state government are essentially the lowest form of life on the planet
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
lower than dwarves and endelrons? i dunno man
― some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
does this mean the state of rhode island is going to own *googles* Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
― Hungry4Ass, Friday, 25 May 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
Chafee:
"If the company's not going to be profitable and can't give us the confidence [it can get] on solid footing, then we have to deal with the ramifications," Chafee said. "Industry experts tell us this is very, very expensive and it's not only the cost of producing the game, but then maintaining it once it's released, and then tens of millions of dollars to market it. I think the Red Sox lost Babe Ruth because the owner invested in a play called No No Nannette. And the play failed and he had to sell Babe Ruth. This is very very similar. The game failed. That was integral to the success of the company."
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
seems like 38 was in the process of developing another mmorpg as this all went down.
also:
Gov. Lincoln Chafee said today that 38 Studios is back in default with Rhode Island because the video game company violated its loan agreement by not informing state officials about yesterday’s mass layoffs in advance.
― judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 May 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
it's true, I can't think of another software developer who bankrupted a state
― deX! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
Only one video game company put up a blood-soaked sock as collateral.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
' 2 years later and still no ones done what we were doing'
Weird kinda delusion makes you make public statements like that, or sink your fortune into taking on WoW right out of the gate with a team of no MMO experience, or be a ball player who adds 'Gehrig' to his twitter handle
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
@williemayshayes
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Gehrig is his son's name fwiw
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Seriously?
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Also, did KoA ever go on super sale on Steam or amazon or anywhere? I'd to actually try the game out now that all the shouting's done
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
he's just a really big gehrig fan, and i believe has used that handle forever on wow and message boards and stuff. it's probably the least offensive thing he's done.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
A ha
― An Android Pug of Some Kind? (kingfish), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
diagnosed with cancer, and the fact that he doesn't want to talk specifics leads me to fear the worst :/
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 February 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Game is on Steam, finally. Was on sale this weekend.
― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2014 01:19 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I don't even care about Schilling beyond schadenlols and I thought responding to "dude has cancer" with "plus his game came out" was cold
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Thursday, 6 February 2014 01:34 (ten years ago) link
i took it as a pvmic but idk
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 February 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
It's a horrible diagnosis, but one of the things I've been curious all along is what the actual thing that effectively started all this downfall was like as a game.
I'll grant my juxtaposition could have been handled better.
― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:29 (ten years ago) link
Sort of. That one that actually came out was developed by another studio that got swallowed up by Shilling's studio during all this, and it was already mostly done. I believe they rebranded it to fit into their fictional universe, the main game of which never came out.
― Nhex, Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:37 (ten years ago) link
Really? IP acquisition is weird. I always thought that his studio led with the design and brought in all the nerdcult names to work on it. Like, this thing was a piece with the MMO.
― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2014 06:42 (ten years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/various-lowlights-from-curt-schillings-failed-38-studio-1732879364
― polyphonic, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link
Chas Pierce paying attention to this loony
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a47895/curt-schilling-senate-elizabeth-warren/
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
and Taibbi!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/curt-schilling-is-the-next-donald-trump-w435754
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Curt Schilling...Mike Pence...is there a right-wing American fucknut called Pound, by any chance?
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Ezra_Pound_1963b.jpg
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
in many ways the ur-fucknut
TY. Eric Morecambe behind EP, too.
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link
hahaha is that actually Eric??
― beer say hi to me (stevie), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/detective-curt-schilling-is-on-the-case-of-the-hoboken-1787242420
― nomar, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
next trump http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/09/28/curt-schilling-run-president-haha-sure
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 September 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--JYqz9Ent--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/r7t7jjyzhcggacqjivbc.jpg
― nomar, Monday, 10 October 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link
lmfao
― lag∞n, Monday, 10 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
he still hasn't deleted it
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
Gotta go on Twitter and thank him for the display name
― GUN SHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link