chicago juke: dj nate, dj rashad [R.I.P. 2014], leatherface aka kaptain cadillac, dj roc &c &c

(and yeah, I don't really see what Dilla has to do with things either)

agreed

I'm saying too!

i don't know, i mean i've never read that anywhere but it makes sense to me, more than burial. feel like maybe it was rev (?) said he doesn't like jd beats because of the way they lurch & a lot of footwork stuff has the same quality

Footwork's lurch is totally different from the Dilla lurch tho. Dilla's comes from lack of quantization, footwork's comes from 3-based rhythms that often don't resolve themselves by the next down beat, if that makes sense.

o ya that totally makes sense

like

|X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X |
|1   2   3   4   1   2   3   4   |

there's another one too, though, that dilla also does, those like -- abrupt spaces -- in beats, not going to find an example right now but maybe soon, i know some tracks on b&w do it for sure

not that im against britishers spending their hard earned 'pounds' to help a kid in inner city chi make a few bucks instead of that money going to dubstep dj dark shadows of nottingham or w/e

^^this is classic

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not sure what rhythm you're trying to notate there rev?

a lot of the chi footwork i've heard feels unquantized & triggered by hand, but in a totally different way than dilla.

also i feel like drum & bass is the reference point for most of the articles/reviews i've seen.

I feel like d&b only gets referenced because of the tempo similarity.

Footwork tumbles to me more than it lurches.

tempo & syncopation. i don't think it's actually all that similar, but can see why it appeals to old d&b heads.

http://soundcloud.com/dj-reverend-dollars/untitled

^this rhythm, although i didn't notate the claps

if you syncopate this you end up with footwork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEirSsS8T8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL9B6EAC0148DDDCD5

Yeah, basically. I think the footwork-Burial/footwork-dnb thing is just down to that certain strain of British dance head who wants to force developments in US beat music into UK narratives where they don't belong. It's the "Timbaland is just ripping off drum n bass!" thing all over again.

very interesting theory to me someone who hates british people & music

lol

The new DJ Rashad album has the "Amen" break right in there, so the connection to drum n bass is a little less than tenuous.

Drum'n'bass and Dilla I can understand at a push why they might be compared to footwork, but Burial is like the polar opposite.

yeah but i think the amen breaks only started showing up recently ... not that the footwork dudes weren't aware of amen breaks but that i'm sure they have the same "lol drum n bass" reaction most other people did until recently

this is up there w/ the original "is dj assault influenced by jungle?!?" when really its more like he was making sped-up techno / miami bass hybrids and was aware of jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BkOlkXq8h8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

for more non-chicago juke stuff, i liked munchi's 'rotterdam juke' EP from last year

can we not needlessly bring burial and far more importantly, dilla into this?

in other news, the new world wide juke comp came out today. they're all free so grab them here http://worldwidejuke.com/

i dunno man that looks kinda commercial for my taste i try to keep it on the underground tip

idk man earl and guchon on the same comp

Can't tell if tlg's response is meant to be serious or not, but these are most appreciated in this camp. thanks again nohighs

fwiw:

The Guardian!: It sounds dark and messy, like the brooding urban soundtrack of Burial reimagined for a city with faster, meaner streets.

Chicago Reader: The forefathers of footwork music may be Green Velvet and Gant-Man, but it's got more in common with Aphex Twin or Burial.

in reference to?

chi reader compares everything to aphex twin

^this rhythm, although i didn't notate the claps

ah gotcha, sure. props for the audio illustration.

speaking of rhythms, i haven't heard anyone talk about this specifically but it's interesting that a lot of footwork producers have started flattening out the dotted 8th/dotted 8th/8th rhythms into quarter note triplets.

sorry if that sounds overly technical, but like this track starts out with the first rhythm and then shifts into using all triplets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3bBzyLasgA

there's an interview in the new Wire with Traxman talking about his love of Dilla fwiw

:-D

dilla ftw

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/products/19244844/views/1,width=178,height=178,interlace=true/j-dilla-changed-my-life-hoodies.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EEziGpjhJY

everyone in bootytune are real friendly and great at what they do. it's good to see them getting around

DJ Rashad - TEKLIFE Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi

Is out now on soem of the usual download shops, really hope some of it hits wax at some point.

I'm listening to it now and frankly, it's the best chi footwork album I've heard by far. But i'm also loving the non-chi stuff nohighs posted earlier. That Neuport thing manages to tap into a (dare I say) chillwave vibe that is hinted at in a lot of footwork stuff - the pressure cooker feel of being high on caffeine when you're goddamned knackered to fuck. As for the junglefoot sound of Dream Continuum, well it's the crossover EP I've been waiting for. Extremely excited about this music again - more recommendations welcome!

new world wide juke came out yesterday

just popping in to say that I can't stress how incredible the last half of this album is (although the entire thing is phenomenal but in completely different regards). especially いい生活と言おうとして、噛む.

that's it really

this new rashad album is really something, huh?

the pressure cooker feel of being high on caffeine when you're goddamned knackered to fuck

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4es3q9XVN1ro1gr3.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3fqzmNiog1qcdvcmo1_500.gif

I seem to have accumulated a lot of footwork the past couple of years, but almost never play any of it.

Got to play out my first all-footwork set last night. Sounded great on a big system. Sully played too, and while yes he's a mate, his set was terrific.

do i just not know enough about juke or is the dj rashad album kind of unprecedented?? like, 80+ minutes with tons of songs that are 5+ minutes. and they really feel like songs more than tracks. not to sound rockist but it feels elevated.

in any case it's amazing

It's the most solid/accomplished/listenable chi footwork release I've heard - not sure about songs, but on its way to greatness

i can't fucking even with that album. album of the year #realtalk

Listening to it again now. Yep, it's fucking ace. The jarring nature of footwork just dissipates by around the time We Trippy Mane comes on, and it really starts sounding like a perfect cross between full throttle dance and experimental lo-tech electronica.