the elite gymnastics thread

on saturday they introduced a song "this song is about andrea dworkin the most important person who has ever lived"

they have a mix called "I Want a 38-Minute Truce During Which There Is No Rape mix" after the dworkin speech

another song they said "that song was about the male gaze. this next song is about how people who smoke cigarettes are fucking retarded."

wow these guys seem really cool

hahaha i thought they seemed pretty cool. they handed out flowers. the big one was wearing a hospital gown

love these guys but here in heaven 3 (cover by how to dress well) is one of the worst songs ive ever heard

digging these guys

also dig max music threads bc I usually find digworthy goods that I wouldn't hear o/w, keep up the good work

I read the title of this thread as having something to with quiddities and agonies of the ruling class.

gymnastics is an exurban pursuit surely

The first thing I heard from them was ALL WE FUCKING CARE ABOUT IS KPOP WHITEHOUSE AND OUR CATS which is basically a K-pop mixtape. I really like their democratic approach to influences. I guess its kind of a played out aesthetic ("post-internet" or whatever)but they bring a personal touch that I really like.

― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:54 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

I thought this was a really bad mixtape fwiw but maybe I will listen to some of these youtubes so that I can have an opinion about this hot new internet badn

i dig what ive heard
they make me wish i had made an honest effort to make music

these dudes remind me a lot of the music ILX's lynsky used to make ca. 2005

http://elitegymnastics.tumblr.com/post/29469325388/kinda-bummed-josh-isnt-in-the-band-anymore-i-kinda

Aw, sad.

Fuck real life.

Their visual aesthetic was one of the best things about them, and I guess the guy that left was responsible mostly for the visuals and very little for the music. That seems like something I've heard of other bands doing (having a visual artist who does all the album covers and other visual stuff and who is considered a full member of the band), but I can't think of any other examples right now. It would probably be insulting to compare it to Bez, but maybe kind of like a Terry Gilliam in Monty Python thing?

Errr.. drawing analogies to Terry Gilliam might be stretching. As much as I hate to admit it, they definitely have struck me as a Tumblr band, if that's how you're reading the visual aesthetic.

He wasn't comparing their styles...

Well, neither was I.

new track (about andrea dworkin)

http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201206_singles/index.html

also, James interviewing 2ne1 may as well go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPG_FK3jFCU

so james is now "dead girlfriends"

http://deadgirlfriends.com/

cant say "primitive radio gods" is the direction wouldve CHOSEN for these guys but ill take it

wkiw jb

idk abt this

jb has a p good tumblr, 'on fraternity' makes me p sad about a lot of different things, kinda wish it was a better song but oh well

hasn't that been the title of his tumblr site? idk, still pretty cool

yes it has

i'm sorry but the vocals on this are horrible

apology accepted

:)

This is vg but I love this guy always

this song suuuuuuuuuuuucks

otm

http://theremixbaby.tumblr.com/post/56833536211/best-new-dead-girl

if i was a woman i would think chillwave hates me

smh at max loving women studies 101

it's called women's studies

smh at my typos

michelle otm

there are three other songs on the bandcamp linked from the site, on fraternity is by far the worst, words with friends is pretty great

surprised by the noise, really don't like the vocals much. but i'll give this guy a shot, sure.

http://deadgirlfriends.tumblr.com/post/56881361455/rmxbb-best-new-dead-girl

Partly I'm just happy to hear new music from him (RUIN, specifically "So Close to Paradise" which hits really close for me, is one of my favorite albums of the last few years), but I think even without those expectations I'd love this. It's kind of surprising just how vicious the youtube comments are, though.

that names from an ad in artforum

http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/56990576819/i-apologize-in-advance-but-there-will-be-swearing-in

grimes takes criticism pretty hard

idk if the song isnt actually intended to represent a woman's POV then the argument is wrong inherently right?

of course this means the song fails on another level, but imo the song sucks so dont really have something invested in that

idk if the song isnt actually intended to represent a woman's POV then the argument is wrong inherently right?

if female critics are reacting a certain way to a song about rape culture written by a man, the inherent problem is with the song, not the interpretations

except that some female critics are not interpreting it that way, and the artist is maintaining that he was not writing from the POV of a woman.

It might be a failure of communication if this type of misunderstanding is happening, because an artist shouldnt have to explain his piece in a tumblr post. But you don't think that the artist's intent matters at all?

except that some female critics are not interpreting it that way

every female critic i've seen writing about this w/ the exception of pelly has had a problem with the song

that said, i don't think artists are owed correct interpretations of their songs by the general public. obviously for critics, interpreting something "correctly" is important but there's a strength in numbers thing here imo, especially when we're talking about how women are hearing a song written by a man about rape culture and the patriarchy.

if you're an artist, it matters if your execution is so clumsy that your true intent becomes muddled

seems like people aren't really trying to give this guy any benefit of the doubt because stuff like this i think comes off pretty well:

And so, "On Fraternity" — it's called "On Fraternity." I don't want women to hear it and not be able to relate to it. I don't want to tell any of the women who are listening to it that your reaction to it, positive or negative, is not valid. But the purpose of "On Fraternity," in the context of the EP especially, is to call out my male peers for creating a situation where other people are victimized. I totally failed to do that. I guess if there was any reaction I was expecting, it was that the people, especially in the music industry, who are doing this stuff that's upsetting me would have a problem with it.

How else could it be framed?
Even just singing about the rape experience, that's another weird thing that's hard to talk about. Obviously women are much more vulnerable, and it's perpetrated against them much more than other demographics, but the rape experience doesn't belong to women. It's my place as a survivor of sexual assault to sing about that if I want to. I don't want to make that a big issue, because the point of "On Fraternity," like I said before, was to call out other men for creating a situation where victimization is enabled, and the silence that allows victimizers to run around and act with impunity is also something that my peers in the music industry perpetuate. So I don't want to make it about me, like, "Oh, it's about my rape experience." But it's not like I wrote those lines from a place of complete ignorance. The fact that so many people assumed that, based on my race and my gender or whatever minimal biographic information people know about me? That was the roughest part of it.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b77f4dab70a2db5a61a486363c0cd0c5/tumblr_mprff1dVGa1r67k03o1_500.jpg

I didn't like his last few singles, but the new Default Genders album is okay imo: http://magicalpessimism.bandcamp.com/album/magical-pessimism-2014

Last year he posted about making a conscious decision to place his vocals higher in the mix and not process them as much, but I think that was a mistake cause his voice sounds like fucking Owl City to me lol

'on fraternity' is probably the only good indie rock song in years

i actually blieve that

wasn't sure if I should bump this one or start a new thread, but the new Default Genders is really doing it for me. Springsteen + breakbeats is something I never knew I needed. I also want way more music that uses Air France/Sincerely Yours stuff as a jumping off point and ends up somewhere else entirely.

https://magicalpessimism.bandcamp.com/album/main-pop-girl-2019

^yeah that's so good. early aoty contender for me tbh.

I'm bad at articulating my thoughts on music (and I mostly lurk here as a result), but I feel like this is really special.

It is actually an amazing album. It reminds me of The Russian Futurists except with the best lyrics I've ever heard

whew, reading through this thread was a wild ride

Thank you for the great record, James <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHVMdGL0kno

congrats on the new video, james

it is i who should be thanking y'all for being willing to listen to new stuff from me in the first place

now i'm going to go and dip my head into molten lava until i burn out the memory of ever having hit play on the video whiney posted

:P

<333333333333333333 JB

james you made an amazing album thank you

absolutely love this, it's a little world I keep wanting to revisit. heart emoji xo and vietato calpestare i prati probably my favs atm

new album, a kind of reimagining of the previous one https://magicalpessimism.bandcamp.com/album/pain-mop-girl-2020

Jaime Brooks just surprise-dropped "the first album by elite gymnastics"!
https://magicalpessimism.bandcamp.com/album/snow-flakes-2022

So far sounds like more primo breakbeat pop à la main pop/pain mop girl. Gonna have to pay close attention to these lyrics as usual...